ShellWolf In reply to ??? [2011-10-01 00:32:38 +0000 UTC]

No, he means that these people are going crazy over it. He's just stating how stupid it is. Especially how they keep freaking out when someone falls for it.

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Firework154 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 03:12:09 +0000 UTC]

Especially how they keep freaking out when someone falls for it.

Hypocrite much?

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 00:39:10 +0000 UTC]

He's also somehow tying it to liberals.

Perhaps it hasn't clicked for you yet but this guy's facade is paper-thin.

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 00:41:06 +0000 UTC]

And? I'm not doing that myself. I don't care if a person is liberal or not. I don't care about stupid politics. Especially on an art site...

Whether or not it is (it doesn't matter) he is helping against the trolls.

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 00:45:35 +0000 UTC]

He also terms trolls "Bullies", constantly shoehorns politics into every discussion ever, and can't pick up on barely-veiled sarcasm.

My point is, he's a little thicker than you want someone "helping" with alleged trolls to be.

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 00:48:33 +0000 UTC]

Er, trolls are a form of bully... O.o Every conversation? I've had plenty of decent conversations without having politics come up even once...

He's helping. That's MY point. I don't care who it is. Anyone can help someone on certain topics. This happens to be one he is helping me on.

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 01:02:21 +0000 UTC]

I'm talking about every one of his conversations, not yours. And by every, I mean most of them.

Trolling and bullying are mutually exclusive, i.e. it is possible to troll someone without bullying them. As a specific example, one troll can make a few statements, the target overreacts, and when other people try to tell them they're overreacting... well, it's a set of disaster dominoes, so to speak, and can be achieved with minimal effort from the troll itself.

Bullying can revolve around using force to boss people around, hence the fixation of stereotypical bullies with lunch money at some point (I can't remember which, might've been the 80's iunno). It's also more 'exclusive' than bullying; trolls can target people for various reasons (i.e. being what they see as a 'furfag'), but they won't necessarily target /just/ those people. While the same can be said of bullies, they usually tend to be more persistent and affect the victim more on a personal level; compare the fact that you run the risk of meeting this person almost daily to trolls, who you can easily cut off, and may have the luxury of avoiding completely if you really know how to handle them.

If he really wants to help you with this situation, he should probably make it seem less like he's stalking them or something. The impression conveyed by his comments is... not good to say the least.

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 01:08:41 +0000 UTC]

Alright.

Yes, I know, but these people have been bullying as well.

I think that was around the 80's and 90's. These trolls have been non-stop also. They keep finding places to bully me, knowing I'll see them.

Well, whatever he's doing, he's still helping either way.

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Funkykitsune In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 06:48:59 +0000 UTC]

Trolls get entertainment from responses....so as long as you keep responding to them, talking about them/to them, bitching about them etc then you're only giving trolls what they want.
In short, IGNORE THEM

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 01:13:00 +0000 UTC]

While I highly doubt that it would meet the definition of bullying, I suppose I cannot convince you otherwise. Though I do believe dA provides something for these sort of situations, and I'm pretty sure you're familiar with it.

By the way, do tell me how he's helping, exactly. :u

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 01:20:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I have blocked them. I've reported a few that went way to far also. (One person in particular)

Getting me proof for one on their actions and also supporting people tends to be a very good way to help people out when they are being ganged up on. I'm helping him in that way as well. Others also.

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 01:22:23 +0000 UTC]

I doubt stalking people who are bothering someone would be a good idea, but hey, not my battle! :n

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 01:30:31 +0000 UTC]

I'm not stalking them myself.

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 01:33:25 +0000 UTC]

Wasn't necessarily referring to you specifically.

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 01:35:59 +0000 UTC]

Oh, whoops. Sorry

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Kid-Umby In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 07:17:06 +0000 UTC]

It's fine.

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ShellWolf In reply to Kid-Umby [2011-10-01 07:19:22 +0000 UTC]

Alright.

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Mitochondria-Raine In reply to ??? [2011-09-30 21:02:15 +0000 UTC]

I noticed that. He's making things worse for ~ShellWolf .

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zane1193 In reply to ??? [2011-09-30 17:58:01 +0000 UTC]

If you CLICK the link it goes to my page,or others pages the groups are harassing.CLICK the link and see for yourself.Again,is this the best they can do? Sad,they haven't progressed beyond Elementary School.This is akin to little kids passing notes in class.

I'm enjoying myself over this actually.However,BULLIES like this don't enjoy anyone standing up to them and these people are amateurs!Seriously,I survived years of physical/emotional abuse and a MURDER PLOT and all they can do is leave snide comments and get some of my crappy artwork removed.


I NEVER heard of these people before they came to my page making demands/threats.
As this continues,more people WILL read their comments and know them for what they are,CYBERBULLIES.

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melodycass In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 19:08:02 +0000 UTC]

if you want click on my pageview link it will show you its a joke link

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zane1193 In reply to melodycass [2011-09-30 19:13:17 +0000 UTC]

Once again,I'm NOT talking about the joke link.I'm talking about comments where people are mentioned by name and a link goes to their page or to a conversation.That's how I found the other people who are being Harassed and Bullied.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-10-01 00:41:59 +0000 UTC]

Like me for instance.

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-10-01 00:43:55 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-10-01 00:48:41 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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heroicfairytale In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 18:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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ShellWolf In reply to heroicfairytale [2011-10-01 00:34:37 +0000 UTC]

You haven't seen the posts from people that directed him towards me. They ARE cyber-bullying.

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zane1193 In reply to heroicfairytale [2011-09-30 18:32:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure it does.I have been reading their comments for over a week now,they do have links to others pages and various nasty little comments.They have also posted a warning/notice to their members about links/screen caps etc... when talking about others because it violates rules.

Riiight.I was subjected to emotional/physical abuse but I don't know what a bully is? My folks said the same thing as they humiliated and beat me.Again,I have been reading their comments for over a week now,sick,twisted and most definitely BULLIES.

I have NO intention of reporting anyone here unless they threaten to KILL me etc....I have only reported one individual since I've been here for doing just that.There IS a rumor going around that I am reporting these people,I haven't.I have however contacted their victims and will continue to do so.What those people do with that information is their business.

If they don't like what I'm doing they should have LEFT ME ALONE.They can end this anytime they want to,I've already had 2 people apologize to me for doing this.

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zane1193 In reply to ??? [2011-09-30 04:36:18 +0000 UTC]

ROTFLMAO! They have already accused us of being lovers! I knew what I said would PISS them off.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 04:48:49 +0000 UTC]

ROFL!!!!!! Sorry guys, I'm seeing someone else (no offence. You are a cool person either way! XD)

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:57:48 +0000 UTC]

None taken.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 05:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Alright.

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zane1193 In reply to ??? [2011-09-30 03:49:11 +0000 UTC]

I sent you a note,some people need to be kept guessing. I've just been to Trinity's page,and I know what most of the reason is for your harassment by her at least.You are far more attractive than she is.I've dealt with people like this my whole life,they are bitter,jealous bullies.They thrive on causing others misery.Don't give them the satisfaction of commenting to them again.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 03:55:48 +0000 UTC]

Haha thanks. Apparently they do love it. I won't don't worry. And the person who just commented on my page is being stupid. I may as well re-post my damn journal again... Or flag the comment as spam. Should I remake it again or just flag the comment? I'm not sure I want a list of a million things saying 'comment flagged as spam'...

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:05:07 +0000 UTC]

People like this thrive on causing drama and misery,they want you to react,they feed on it,Do whatever you want,just not anything they can use to ban you.

I really can't advise you on that,I've NEVER hidden comments or flagged them as spam.I've only reported 1 person who threatened to KILL and RAPE myself and my friends.

I can tell you that these freaks aren't to be trusted and they are planning something as we speak.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 04:08:34 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Alright, it's only one comment so I'll hide it. It'll only turn out to be one line. It won't take up the whole page. The trolls are basically gone from my page so one comment won't hurt.

Someone actually said that!? PLEASE tell me they were banned???

Oh, yes. They most definitely are(n't - {to the not to be trusted bit}).

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:16:40 +0000 UTC]

The person was banned finally.

If you really want to PISS these Hags off,work out a little,get a makeover and post the photo.I can promise you it will PISS them off cause they aren't nearly as attractive as you are now and they know it.Trust me on this,I won the weight loss competition at work and PISSED OFF a bunch of women just like these.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 04:20:23 +0000 UTC]

Good!

haha yeah, I don't think I need to though. If they ARE pissed about that then I don't think changing anything would matter much... Though it would just make them worse... Haha that actually sounds just like something they would be pissed about XD

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popokoli In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:39:15 +0000 UTC]

Just a quick question! Don't mind me, I'd just like to know something.

Why attempt to fuel something as trite as a hate battle on DeviantArt when you originally didn't wish for it? Can't you just simply practice tolerance against something so simple as an anonymous internet-user?

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zane1193 In reply to popokoli [2011-09-30 05:57:44 +0000 UTC]

I never even knew these people existed until they started harassing me and getting some of my art removed.Then I started reading the comments that they'd been making about me and others for weeks.They are nothing but bullies.Having survived a MURDER PLOT by a member of my Family and being abused by all of them,I know what I'm talking about.

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ShellWolf In reply to popokoli [2011-09-30 04:50:37 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know it would happen. When it did, well, I'm the type to try to, as calmly and logically as possible, talk them down... Too bad I didn't realize how dumb that was sooner... >.<

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:26:27 +0000 UTC]

You already look sooo much better than them now and they know it!Imagine how PISSED they will be when you post a photo of yourself looking your best and they are still OVERWEIGHT.Even if they managed to lose weight,which is extremely doubtful,they still won't be as attractive as you.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 04:36:44 +0000 UTC]

I already have some up. My ball photos. XD They need to see THOSE. Thanks?

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:42:10 +0000 UTC]

Seriously,post the best photos of yourself that you have,it will PISS them off.They can't compete with you on that and they know it.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 04:49:27 +0000 UTC]

I honestly don't have many of me... I tend to take pictures of animals and such more. So do my friends. XD

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 04:58:46 +0000 UTC]

Then take some!

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 05:00:55 +0000 UTC]

I will eventually! XD

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zane1193 In reply to ??? [2011-09-30 02:06:56 +0000 UTC]

Seems we have a similar problem,we are being targeted by a group of individuals that like to harass folks.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 02:13:26 +0000 UTC]

Really? Oh jeez, I'm sorry that you are being targeted also... I'm fine enough being treated like that myself but I hate seeing others being treated that way...

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zane1193 In reply to ShellWolf [2011-09-30 02:19:09 +0000 UTC]

I found a link to your conversation with some of them on #I-Call-Bull,most of the "people" who are bullying you talk about it there.Don't threatened to report them or mention getting them banned,just do it.Spread the word to anyone else who's being targetted by these creeps.They think they are untouchable and that nothing will happen to them.You should read their comments,they are classic twisted bullies.

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ShellWolf In reply to zane1193 [2011-09-30 02:27:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... I figured it was somewhere. I just couldn't find it. Hmm, well, That group may be good for a report... Too bad I've already submitted some reports. I don't want to send to many because DA may think thats going too far and ban ME... :-/ Yeah, I'm just going to ignore them now. I'm trying to spread the word with my journal. Hopefully this little bit will help a good amount. They definitely are...

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