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Octeapi ♀️ [7027622] [2008-04-04 02:11:23 +0000 UTC] "Taking life one step at a time" (United States)

# Statistics

Favourites: 4500; Deviations: 967; Watchers: 1196

Watching: 472; Pageviews: 109098; Comments Made: 35454; Friends: 472

# Interests

Favorite gaming platform: Ps3
Tools of the Trade: wacom Intuos 4 Tablet

# Comments

Comments: 6405

vampquts In reply to ??? [2013-09-28 04:27:58 +0000 UTC]

I'd just like to say.................HAEBQIFWEJGRB.........YOUR ART IS JUST...SO.WDNOQFWOEGINWIQ FULL OF MAGIC, AND BEAUTIFULNESS. ......I love it so much..

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Octeapi In reply to vampquts [2013-09-28 05:06:51 +0000 UTC]

WoW, Thank you so much hun~!!Β 


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Hearing someone say that they like their art is the greatest complement an artist can get.Β 
So just thank you

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vampquts In reply to Octeapi [2013-09-28 16:30:22 +0000 UTC]

It's my pleasure.Β 

|'D so glad..Β 


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MissFemke In reply to ??? [2013-09-26 20:38:57 +0000 UTC]

woWOWOW THANK YOU FOR THE WATCH * A * <3

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Octeapi In reply to MissFemke [2013-09-28 05:08:32 +0000 UTC]

Of course~ I really enjoyed your art

I suppose I should thank you too for the watch.


Β So thank ya for the watch

<3

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MissFemke In reply to Octeapi [2013-09-29 20:04:22 +0000 UTC]

eeeeeh thank you again ; U ;


and welcome! U v U <3

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Dragonious In reply to ??? [2013-09-26 20:07:40 +0000 UTC]

Tea ;3; foggypebble.tumblr.com/post/62344404358/chubrubqueen-cdnpgn-winter-sore-throat-tea

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rainylake In reply to ??? [2013-09-23 07:45:02 +0000 UTC]



Hey there! You've been given a deviantART Compliment !

Hope you have a wonderful day!

-Kathy

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NeonSquid In reply to ??? [2013-09-13 03:31:35 +0000 UTC]

; v; Some art for you.

neonsquid.deviantart.com/art/G…


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ProjectHalfbreed In reply to ??? [2013-09-12 22:44:20 +0000 UTC]

Ima leave this here *runs*

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Octeapi In reply to ProjectHalfbreed [2013-09-13 00:00:07 +0000 UTC]

HNNNGGGGGGGGGG Β 

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infinite-procedure In reply to ??? [2013-09-11 09:21:23 +0000 UTC]

666 deviations .o.Β 


Yes I am going through your DAΒ 


I was reading our old rps yesterday! I read the Kaito/Rojo one and the pirate Archer/Stitch one and I realized I miss talking to you and our rpsΒ 

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Dragonious In reply to ??? [2013-09-10 02:52:00 +0000 UTC]

we dont talk at all anymore ;A;

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Cyanea-Lamarckii In reply to ??? [2013-09-08 20:20:08 +0000 UTC]

unknownfallen.deviantart.com/a… ;u; last one.

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Octeapi In reply to Cyanea-Lamarckii [2013-09-08 20:35:22 +0000 UTC]

*insert large squealing noises here*Β 

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Cyanea-Lamarckii In reply to Octeapi [2013-09-08 20:47:37 +0000 UTC]

x'3

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Cyanea-Lamarckii In reply to ??? [2013-09-07 08:50:36 +0000 UTC]

unknownfallen.deviantart.com/a… I make a quick sketch of your oc ;u;

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No1fan15 In reply to ??? [2013-09-01 12:11:52 +0000 UTC]

YOUR ART IS SO AMAZING!!!Β 

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Octeapi In reply to No1fan15 [2013-09-02 00:32:02 +0000 UTC]

;v;! Oh THANK YOU!! <3 <3!

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DaMushroom In reply to ??? [2013-08-24 19:05:11 +0000 UTC]

Been busy, Tea? did you recieve the PM message I sent?

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Octeapi In reply to DaMushroom [2013-08-24 19:13:08 +0000 UTC]

I did hun but yes i an busy at the moment D:

I will reply tonight I have to get to work now!

talk to you then!Β 

-flees-

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DaMushroom In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-24 20:13:52 +0000 UTC]

Aight-I was unsure if you got it at all, so I just wanted to make sure No worries, take your time

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CosAce In reply to ??? [2013-08-22 17:52:54 +0000 UTC]

Tea :V hey Tea :VΒ fav.me/d6j8zik told ya I would draw him.

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gdpr-2852538 In reply to ??? [2013-08-12 17:41:49 +0000 UTC]

THIS time I gonna interview contestants in #The-BloodSport ravenpuff.deviantart.com/journ…

If you want to secure extra voters for YOUR OC, you can put the poll link in your journal

Thanks ^^

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Octeapi In reply to gdpr-2852538 [2013-08-12 18:00:21 +0000 UTC]

alrighty ;D I will see what I can do.Β 


Though is it Β going to be a popularity contest? Like the one with the most votes gets interviewed.Β 


I will follow the poll to see how it goes~

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gdpr-2852538 In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-12 18:01:33 +0000 UTC]

To ensure the interviewed is the one most people are interested in. So, yeah, a popularity contest

This time I plot to make to interviews to make up for the fact I only got around to this this late in the tournament X3;

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Octeapi In reply to gdpr-2852538 [2013-08-12 18:03:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. XD

Β I think that with a popularity contest it most definitely is going to be Zerna who wins this one. XD

Β Her with her mass of watcher hounds.Β 


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gdpr-2852538 In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-12 18:05:55 +0000 UTC]

I actually hope the others get a chance too, but yeah Zerna's Tex is quite popular in general

Another reason to allow TWO to be interviewed >w<;

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Octeapi In reply to gdpr-2852538 [2013-08-13 00:28:52 +0000 UTC]

O hso you are going to interview two of the contestants? ovo I look forward to seeing who gets picked XD Zerna for sure i know that one.Β 

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gdpr-2852538 In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-13 17:09:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Tex is a clear favourite. But so far you are on second place ^^ Congrats

Gonna keep it open a few more days so everyone gets a chance to vote

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Octeapi In reply to gdpr-2852538 [2013-08-13 18:26:20 +0000 UTC]

Apparently XD;Β 


I had no idea that people liked Cyshkil that much.. bet uhm well.. surprising

I will keep my eyes on it till tis done ovoΒ 

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gdpr-2852538 In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-13 19:17:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, when looking aside Zerna, there HAVE to be other popular people you know

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Octeapi In reply to gdpr-2852538 [2013-08-13 23:14:31 +0000 UTC]

'v' I suppose, though Β I don't count my self as one XD hardly


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igotnonamelol In reply to ??? [2013-08-01 03:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Who's your favorite OC?

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Octeapi In reply to igotnonamelol [2013-08-01 20:37:02 +0000 UTC]

Of all of my OC's?Β 

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igotnonamelol In reply to Octeapi [2013-08-01 22:39:18 +0000 UTC]

yes

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Octeapi In reply to igotnonamelol [2013-08-06 10:03:31 +0000 UTC]

hmmmn I have to say at the moment Requiem. Or Cyshkil. Those two definitly are fighting for my favorite position.Β 

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SaintHeartwing In reply to ??? [2013-07-30 21:52:50 +0000 UTC]

Your ingratitude is staggeringly infuriating. I had people complaining over and over that I was letting rounds go too far. So I try to make sure the competition ends by this year to be fair. I've had people complain about how limited they feel by the "always have to kill" rule. So I changed it for the very last round to add a bit of innovation and creativity by allowing the competitors to choose whether they not only kill their opponents, but if they SAVE them. Or if the environment kills them first or if they choose to let others go on the shuttle instead of them.Β 


And you complain.Β 


You know the best part of the last round was seeing competitors that weren't trying to kill each other off the bat. In fact a lot of people complimentd that part of you and your competitors entries. I'm taking that one step further. And by the way it's kind of silly for you to play the Canon card considering this is a competition for the fandom. Your character has freaking psychic powers and you're complaining about staying true to every little thing in the show? Complaining about how Irkens are supposed to act when your guy can make heads explode?Β 


My concern was never about what I could get from this. I'm just trying to add a new level of innovation and creativity to the competition. And I'm aware that there is a difference between innovation and making a bacon milkshake. What I'm trying to do is trying to get closer to the innovation part and away from the bacon milkshake. Β 


And you may say "What's wrong with using the same formula that we've had in the last couple of seasons"? Well, that's the problem. Formula. If you don't change it up a bit, things get stale. This isn't based on silly superstition it's based on hard economics. When a particular service on a product has been provided, any continual service will decrease the product value and the market will become saturated. In layman's terms, repeated approaches to a story or the like will cheapen the story, especially if the approaches are all so similar. So new takes and directions must be taken.


What I'm trying to say is...I have cut everyone in this competition aargh amount of slack. I think I deserve a little MYSELF.

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TheCau In reply to SaintHeartwing [2013-07-31 05:14:39 +0000 UTC]

Okay, hold it right there, mister. :U

I was originally going to just let this smooth itself over, but after seeing where this conversation started and eventually went, I can't be quiet any longer. I'm sorry.

I heard that you'd taken some criticism from a couple of competitors and sideliners respectively on that original "last round" journal you posted, but I wasn't expecting you to follow Tea back onto her page and say these things not only to her, but out loud where everyone else can see them. But since you have, I guess I have to say something.

First off, your biting remarks about how you're frustrated about how people have been complaining about "letting the rounds go too far" and "complain about how limited they feel by the 'always have to kill' rule" and that you've been trying to cut everyone some slack in this competition and that you think that you "deserve a little [your]self" are stupid and hardly professional. Especially since you decided to let this little detail slip in public where potentially everybody can see it. People are gonna bitch and they're gonna whine, but a competition is a competition. Just because people are getting impatient does not mean that you have to pander to the needs of sideliners, bystanders, or a couple of bitchy contestants. Waiting for next round/next season to start along with people complaining about staleness isn't fun, but it isn't going to kill anybody and it certainly should not start getting to you as a result.

Being an admin is a thankless job. When you're the one having to organize everything, put up all of the notices, contact everyone you need to, make the pairings, make sure that your judges report back to you, and so on and so forth is hard. You have to do those things in life when you're managing an event and they don't change at all when it's converted to an internet setting. But you absolutely do not deserve slack. You are here to make things run smoothly and to keep the competition running. It's going to be hard job and that's how it's going to stay. You are not a competitor, you are not someone sitting off on the sidelines cheering on/booing the competition, and you are not in any position whatsoever to go around giving yourself any sort of benefits or whatever. When you took up this position, you knew what you were getting into. If you can't stand the criticism or the negative commentary that comes with the territory of being an admin, then you have the wrong job, dude. Give it to someone else if it's too taxing for you.

I also want to say, Bloodsports is what would fall into the category of a "Highlander" Tournament. There is a reason why the tagline to Highlander is, "There can be only one" and it is not because multiple people survive the onslaught of everything and ride off into the rainbow-guilded sunset on a shimmering white unicorn. It is because there can only be one survivor--only ONE winner in this competition. By trying to "make it more innovative" by trying to tweak the rules to allow more than one person through is just destroying the original foundation that the Bloodsports stands on. There has always only ever been one and there will always only ever be ONE. Letting the ending stand open to be like the ending that every single Mass Effect fan wanted in the first place, where everyone has the potential to survive, will not only defeat the purpose of Bloodsport but it will also make the judging and final results that much more freakin' difficult. Because what happens if your judges decide that the contestant who had everyone survive was the best, hmm? Does everybody win then? Does nobody win? Is there going to be some below-the-belt dice-rolling that will ultimately determine everyone's fates in some final russian roulette-style narrative that you end up posting? That's hardly fair for all of the people who've come this far with the intention of winning their bragging rights by having their character come out on top after all of the judging by having you or any one of your judges turning around and then deciding to pick your favorite out of the bunch.

Bloodsports is not broken in its mission. You hardly have reason to go about "innovating" some sort of plot twist that will supposedly 'fix' it. You can't turn Bloodsports into the best case scenario videogame ending same way as you can't market your fantastic bacon milkshake as a honey-flavored cure-all for the common cold to cancer just because your 'sales' are going down. Not only that, it isn't up to you as to whether or not someone's storyline is either cookie-cutter or dynamic. It's up to the artist to interpret, create, and present you that storyline. If you don't like it, fine. If you do like it, fine. But you do not have the jurisdiction nor the justification to come around and change the final goal of this competition because you don't like how run-of-the-mill it is. If people don't like the goal of Bloodsport, great. Then they don't have to enter. And if they did, then they can leave at any time because nothing is tethering them to this competition. If they can't come up with some sort of creative storyline, cliffhanger, or ending for their submission, too bad if you don't like how uncreative they supposedly were. That's just how it's going to be.

If you wanted to have some dramatic four-way match-up, have the catch be that there's only room for ONE person on the shuttle. It isn't that hard to set the round up for drama and action with it being exciting and new and NOT undercut the Highlander aspects of Bloodsport that gave it the allure that made it great in the first place.

As for what you said to Tea, I want to say this. You are an admin. You do NOT talk to the competitors this way and show blatant favoritism or criticism over their characters, stories, or anything. That is NOT your job and it is NOT okay for you to do that to anybody else. If you were saying that to her as a random bystander, then you're just being a random bystander and I could care less. Tea could care less. But when you come in and explicitly tell her that you have a beef with her character's abilities and you doubt his canon-ness and whatever all while being the admin in charge of the competition she's involved in ON HER PAGE IN PUBLIC, then you need to stop. Right now.

Now for the canon-ness of everything, I didn't think I'd have to underline or place emphasis on this, but, there is really no such thing as the word "canon" in the Invader Zim universe. Sure, you have the original cast of characters, original settings, original events, original scenarios and so on but who the hell knows what these other species are actually like? We didn't get enough screen time or enough official footnotes to fill in the blanks and paint an accurate picture of them. It really doesn't matter what you believe the Irken race to act like. Because everything we "canonly" know about them is presumably watered down in the show to appeal to the young audience it was originally meant for. For all we know, if Jhonen was able to produce the show how he wanted to, there would have been a literal metric fuckton of blood and gore with a loud, high-pitched overlay of screaming and ink lines. And it doesn't matter if Bloodsports is hardly what you, personally, would consider 'canon' in the first place. The things that we actually know about the show itself is just so ambiguous and out there that to say that any of us know what canon is and is not would be like saying that we know there's a way to turn shoe soles and duct tape into a perpetual motion machine.

And if you're feeling like you're Superman after he's been put "in charge of Abu Grahib", then you need to step down. You don't owe it to anybody to stay where you are and take the brunt of everything. Nobody is counting on you to see it through to the end. Your own opinion and morals have no reason to be an issue with the results of this competition. If they are and you're having all of these sick to your stomach twinges, then something's wrong. If it isn't tasteful for you to be in your position and if all it does is stress you out, give the job to someone who can stand it instead. Stop taking up the martyr position when it never needed to be filled in the first place.

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SaintHeartwing In reply to TheCau [2013-07-31 09:57:25 +0000 UTC]

"I heard that you'd taken some criticism from a couple of competitors and sideliners respectively on that original "last round" journal you posted, but I wasn't expecting you to follow Tea back onto her page and say these things not only to her, but out loud where everyone else can see them. But since you have, I guess I have to say something." She TOLD me to respond here.Β 


""Highlander" Tournament. There is a reason why the tagline to Highlander is, "There can be only one"Β  Ohhh boy. Look. That isn't what happened in the second season and frankly I think that actually worked for it to a degree by not so cruelly enforcing the kill rule. And...and I know you're gonna start tearing our hair but...there can actually only be lots. Highlander: the Source, the last movie in the franchise? It revealed that there wasn't actually any reason why the immortals had to fight. That somewhere along the line they just thought "we must just be fated to fight" and that the true "one" is the child of Duncan Macleod and his wife, a child he never would have had on his own. But they don't actually need to kill each other, they can just...BE.Β 


"But when you come in and explicitly tell her that you have a beef with her character's abilities and you doubt his canon-ness and whatever all while being the admin in charge of the competition she's involved in ON HER PAGE IN PUBLIC, then you need to stop. Right now." You act like I dislike her character. I don't. Not in the slightest. As I said, her character isn't a jackass. I like her. She had taken what I'd originally said as an unfortunate insult that said her character wouldn't fit in canon, but the competition can't really function in canon in a realistic way, so, in other words "it's just a game", relax.Β 


As for your last comment, I will tell you what you would have seen me tell your friend if you'd bothered to read the rest of the comments and not jumped the gun and screamed in my face. "I don't believe in leaving a duty half finished. And really...it's not about what I want. I may think its totally morally repulsive to have people cheering over an entry that was more violent than it was meaningful. I may think its sick that the cannibals keep getting entered into the competition whilst decent characters with morals like Aingeal or Irk-Dude get RAVAGED. But...it isn't about what I want.


This is why I write what I write, why I draw what I draw what I draw. My characters exist to change things from within, to provide commentary on the Invader Zim canon and fandom. But whilst I may want to try and use the position I have to make a moral stance on Blood Sport itself, that's wrong. I have to run it with regards to one thing and one thing alone: doing right by the people in it and by the fans." What I was PLANNING on doing for the round is moot now anyway.Β I've decided I want to get the winner's opinions on how they feel the next two rounds should be. And not just you, but all of the people who won the last round. I wish to try and truly make a competition that allows the four winners to create the best possible entries and to work together to craft a greater whole. That way everyone could create guidelines for the round they could all agree on. The democratic process and all that.


One MORE thing. "Β Because what happens if your judges decide that the contestant who had everyone survive was the best, hmm?" Wouldn't have happened because I go by what entry fits the criterion we set down best. Which had the highest scores. You must have a low opinion of my integrity to think that. My concern has always been allowing people to get the best entries in possible and to make sure they've got plenty of time and interesting requirements on the round to do it. That's it. Anything else is secondary. If you think I was going by THAT way of judging people, I would have allowed Risk to progress, but that would have been unfair because he didn't have a higher score than Zerna. And it's pretty shameful to hear you think I would have BLATANTLY DISREGARDED THE RULES TO PICK MY OWN PERSONAL FAVORITES.

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TheCau In reply to SaintHeartwing [2013-07-31 20:48:04 +0000 UTC]

Alright, I can say that it really doesn't matter if you find relevance with the last movie in the Highlander franchise. It doesn't change the fact that the main idea behind Bloodsport is to depict people's characters trying to claw their way to the top of the heap and survive long enough to claim the top prize. They can either die at the hand of their assigned opponent or they can die through some other turn of events. Β If this is no longer true, then you have to completely erase and rewrite the Blood Sport's description from "Blood Sport is an Original Character Tournament (OCT for short) which is based in the Invader Zim universe. The goal of the tournament is to come out on top. It's kill or be killed, so the last one standing will literally be the last one standing. In order to get to that point the journey is tough - dozens of contestants enter, but only one can survive" to "... - dozens of contestants enter, but only a few can survive". But doing that would turn Blood Sport into something completely and utterly different because then what's the point of entering, beating all of your rivals in the first few rounds, and then even be given the option--an option that really should not even be there in the first place--to let everyone survive along with you. What's the point, then? Might as well call it "No-Blood Fun Sport" for as family friendly as that's going to make one of the most prestigious and well-known M-rated competitions in this fandom. This competition takes place in a dark and twisted AU for a reason. Only one character is supposed to win by surviving all of the shit this competition throws at them. Even the presumably happiest endings are bittersweet.

"An unfortunate insult", give me a break. It's not so much unfortunate as it is to watch someone purposefully spill their drink on a person after having a disagreement with each other not five seconds before. As an admin running a contest as high-ranking as this, you are expected to adhere to the ground rules given to any person in charge of an event. You do NOT SAY ANYTHING negative or positive to the contestants on their characters. That in and of itself is a huge no-no. That implies favoritism and bias in a position where you absolutely cannot be showing those traits. This is what you need to stop doing. Cease and desist, please. You are just the admin. Your only job is to keep the competition running by posting journals containing notices, matchups, round information, and round results. You are not supposed to be sharing personal commentary with any of the competitors in this competition nor should you be helping judge entries. If you're doing the double-agent admin/judge thing, then you need to cut that out and find another judge to fill that position because I'm telling you right now that that is a disqualifier for you because that's unfair, unprofessional, and unwranted.

I get that this competition is just a competition. But do you even realize how long this thing has been around? How much history this group has amassed in the past? What kind of artistic talent this has attracted over time? It's hard to just sit back and watch you make all of these piss-poor decisions and chip away at this thing's foundation like that. It's a terrible shame.

Did you even look at the timestamp on my reply? It would have been obvious that I already saw all of your comments back to her. I don't need to see your copy-pasted nonsense slapped back into this response of yours. This competition isn't about you or what you feel. You need to just do your dadgum job and not feel like you owe it to anybody for being in the position that you're in. If you want to let the last few people "create guidelines for the round they could all agree on", that's fine and dandy. Except for one thing; THAT IS NOT THEIR JOB. IT'S YOUR JOB. Β If you wanted them to do that, then you'd post up a public journal on the Blood Sport's page requesting that all of the remaining contestants attend a little pow-wow to get that sorted out, but since this is not a community-run contest and you're the one running the show here, so that means that you're the one that has to come up with some other bright idea for those guidelines, not them. What if they don't like it? Then you can just revise it until you get the thumbs-up from everybody. It's not that hard. But if you feel like you need to let someone else decide how things go in this competition, then you need to give your position of power up to someone else who actually wants it because you're not making a good case for yourself about how you want the job to be admin. Nobody is counting on you and nobody wants you here if you feel that tortured and upset by what's going on in these entries. :\

Is my opinion on your integrity that obvious? Good. Β Because it rightfully should be after the kind of two-faced double-dealing I've seen you doing not only to me but to my friends and opponents. Including what you said to me after I submitted my entry more than a month ago. You shouldn't have congratulated me by telling me that I was "a real credit to the sport" and that "the effort [I] put into it is amazing" or that you liked my character. You should have stayed silent, thanked me for my entry being on-time, and that's it. That would have been professional and ay-okay in my book because that's how anybody else should have done it. But you didn't and you spoke your own personal opinion to me and here you are doing it again out loud which is infuriatingly unprofessional and incredibly short-sighted of you.

But you misunderstood the point I was trying to make with what I was saying about the endgame of the round. If you got your original way to have it be a four-way round and had the person who depicted everyone get out alive win the last round because they supposedly got the most points, then who would you pick as the final winner? I mean, all of the characters got out in that submission, right? Then who gets the bragging rights? Just the person who submitted it or everyone who had their character featured in that submission? How would you decide? It'd either be a stalemate or someone would have to decide the fates of each of the characters because having everybody survive is hardly what Blood Sport is about. And if you have an issue with that being the ultimate mission of this competition, you need to go somewhere else to let that Mass Effect ending we never had play out in some other group you have your eye on. Because this is Blood Sport and only one can survive.

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SaintHeartwing In reply to TheCau [2013-07-31 21:00:43 +0000 UTC]

"If you want to let the last few people "create guidelines for the round they could all agree on", that's fine and dandy. Except for one thing; THAT IS NOT THEIR JOB. IT'S YOUR JOB."

......this job is only thankless because you're not treating me like a human being.

"If you wanted them to do that, then you'd post up a public journal on the Blood Sport's page requesting that all of the remaining contestants attend a little pow-wow to get that sorted out, but since this is not a community-run contest and you're the one running the show here, so that means that you're the one that has to come up with some other bright idea for those guidelines, not them. What if they don't like it? Then you can just revise it until you get the thumbs-up from everybody."

WHICH IS WHAT I AM CURRENTLY DOING, bouncing off ideas off of them, getting ideas on what they thought might work and working together to craft decent final rounds that will satisfy everyone.

"You shouldn't have congratulated me by telling me that I was "a real credit to the sport" and that "the effort [I] put into it is amazing" or that you liked my character. You should have stayed silent, thanked me for my entry being on-time, and that's it. That would have been professional and ay-okay in my book because that's how anybody else should have done it. But you didn't and you spoke your own personal opinion to me and here you are doing it again out loud which is infuriatingly unprofessional and incredibly short-sighted of you."

And you're being unbelievably cruel. Here I am, trying to run this competition and trying to be a friendly face FOR it. I've been up all night trying to rewrite stuff and fix things, trying to work out ideas for the next round, and you pull THIS on me. And instead of being GLAD that I actually COMMENTED ON YOUR WORK LIKE ANY DECENT PERSON WOULD HAVE DONE, you SNAP at me for doing so and say I can't have opinions! No, I CAN, there is NO reason why I cannot point out the good AND the bad in all entries, and I commented on a variety OF them and on other people's profiles so as to pay equal attention to all! THAT'S what's fair! But instead, you're treating me like shit. You're not even being POLITE about your criticisms, you're just being snarky, which is a poor man's version of wit, and something all of us are drowning in as part of the coarsening and desensitization of our culture. Where's your common decency? Where's your sense of compassion? Or did that get chucked out the window because you felt you didn't need to have it as part of your competition? I'm DISGUSTED by how you're acting.

I was GOING...to actually consider switching you in with because they were concerned that they might not deserve the position. But now I see that even if you HAD gotten more points, I dodged a bullet. You're being a terrible, terrible person, practically biting my head off when all I'm trying to do is to continue to improve the competition. Your behavior is morally repulsive. And I could go on a whole TANGENT on morality, but I'm not GOING to because I'm angry enough talking to you right now. I'm going to leave you here and I don't want to hear back from you until I get an apology for your behavior.

If you feel I was being unfair to you, unfair to the competitors, unfair to the fans, then...I'm sorry. Well and truly, honestly I am, because that was never my intent and never what I tried to do! But that DOESN'T EXCUSE HOW YOU'RE ACTING RIGHT GODDAMN NOW!

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TheCau In reply to SaintHeartwing [2013-08-01 00:09:49 +0000 UTC]

Okay, calm down, calm down.

This is something that I need to enunciate here because apparently my goal isn't clear enough with what I've said already.

This is just common knowledge: when you take up the position that you're in, as an admin, you pretty much have to give up all of the things that make you different from being just another featureless face on the internet. What I have said and what I have revealed is not a personal attack on you and your character but rather on what you have done with your title. No, you can't be playing the nice guy role by getting chummy with the contestants and commenting on their work. It might be what any "decent person would have done" but you are no longer in the outside area that will allow you to do that without some heavy suspicion from other competitors. No, you can't be the mascot for the competition no matter how hard you want to be because it doesn't work that way. Being a friendly face just to be a friendly face is fine, but you can't do that when you're the coordinator. Doing these things not only damages your position's credibility but it also hurts your image as a person who can get things done because they automatically imply that you've fallen into bullshit favoritism and bias. Can you actually blame anybody who would get those vibes after seeing the person that should be as faceless as they can possibly be buddying up with some of the competitors? They completely violate what it means to be an admin working on these OCT's--as an admin working on anything. So yes, I'm disappointed and I am speaking up.

I realize that corruption is just a thing that happens in these events because I can't think of a single OCT that either I have been in or that any of my friends have been in that isn't inherently bullshitty and eventually overfills with corrupted crap. And it's sad to see that you're stuck in a situation where all of that crap is starting to spill over.

I'm being honest with these things. And I have the decency not to lie straight to your face and tell you that these things you've done are absolutely okay when they're seriously not. And I am not sugarcoating things. My prose has a tendency to lean toward undertones of sarcasm and accusation, so I apologize for sounding so vitriolic. Quite a few of the things that you had a hand in are ridiculous, admittedly stupid, and unprofessional. This is one of the only points I am trying to make. I am pointing these things out in plain sight because you obviously have no reservations in being honest with people, judging on some of the commentary I've seen come from you on these journals. I'm sure you're a great person and all but just the stuff that you've been doing and the things you've been feeling aren't really admin-material at all.

Especially trying to "improve" the competition. That shocked everybody when you posted that journal (that you quickly deleted). If you change that key aspect where it explicitly states that people have to claw their way to the top and that there's only one top spot, then why did I enter in the first place? Why did any of these people enter when their goal is suddenly not to come out on top, but have an optional let's-let-them-save-people side mission that they can complete, too? There is a fine line between "innovation" of a storyline and the complete and utter re-purposing of that storyline into a straight-to-video remake that isn't even remotely recognizable to the original. That is where my main issue with your old proposition lies. We'll see how you rebound from that blunder and I'll see if I can change my opinion on what you have in store instead. I'm hoping that you can turn around and fix it. I really am.

And if you're so disgusted with how I'm acting, then look at how you're acting. You're yelling back at me, pretty much telling me that I'm a disgrace to mankind and our old culture, and you're not even getting the points I'm trying to make so plain and clear as day that what you've done and are doing is just plain ridiculous and that you should stop and sort it out. It's not a matter of whether or not I'm decent or compassionate about this stuff or whether or not you perceive my responses as me being a "terrible, terrible person" it's about what's logical and fair for everyone involved. I'm sorry I'm not being the nicest thing in the world to be listening to right now, and you can discount me and tell me that I have no morals or compassion or decency or whatever, but that's just how it's going to be. I can make sure that all of my other replies are fluffy and polite as all get-out if you want me to--if that'll somehow help make my argument that much clearer. Just say the word, and I'll change it.

I am not trying to attack the man. I'm attacking his actions. I'm trying to show you and tell you that you're making stupid choices and I just want you to stop making them. I do not think that you're a bad person. Quite the opposite, really. I know you're a really nice guy. But I just want to stop you and make you see what is and is not right to be doing when you have that coordinator title floating over your head like that. I might just be talking to a wall right now, but that's all I'm trying to accomplish here.

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SaintHeartwing In reply to TheCau [2013-08-01 00:34:21 +0000 UTC]

I KNOW I...

...sorry.

...I am aware of how the changes came out. It's hard to walk the line between "making things interesting with a good change-up" and "completely missing the point", which, evidently, what I originally had planned seem to go too far close to. So NOW I'm revising what I had planned and trying to work out the kinks for the next round. I would have been far more willing to listen to your points if you hadn't come off the way you had. I KNOW I came off as kind of push-offy to ...that wasn't my intent. I was trying to justify why...

1. I felt the need to change things up and how I wanted to go about doing that...
2. I felt playing the "canon" card didn't really work for the competition in general, so it wasn't a good idea to use that as an excuse to implement changes that would go against the "message" of the show.Β  Not that there's much a message to begin with. I've said it before and I'll say it again. IZ is basically like a darker version of a Looney Tunes cartoon. Darker tone, humor, atmosphere, but with plenty of slapstick, irony, satire and little nods and winks to certain things in our culture sprinkled throughout.
3. That I got many of their complaints but they seemed more about complaining, knee-jerk reactions than "actually thinking things through".
4. The rules and conditions for the rounds in Blood Sport have been changed quite a bit on occasion in previous seasons, so why not this one?

That's why I said what I said and why I'm speaking to you now. But much of that is, again, pretty much moot since I'm trying to rethink how I'm going to do the next two rounds, bouncing ideas off the competitors and getting their feedback so I can craft rounds they'll feel they'll be able to put the most amount of work into. For starters, one on one matches. Second, again, the planet is definitely blowing up, but not THIS round. One idea I did have was having Fez not only come back to act as on-the-ground commentary, but to try and have him kill the competitors in the last round with him being the only thing that stands between them and a way of the planet. One idea was that it could only host two people: a pilot and a passenger, and Fez had asked the only other person on the station to take him down. So would the competitors just kill the pilot and take the shuttle alone? Or would they go on the shuttle with the pilot? Or would they let their competitor go instead? Or would they decide to write that the pilot willingly stays behind and allows the two competitors to leave the planet, ending in a kind of "The Thing" ending as the ship floats off through space, leaving the audience wondering if one of them killed the other or if they'll even be rescued.

Like I said...all just ideas. And...I'm sorry for going off on you.

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TheCau In reply to SaintHeartwing [2013-08-01 01:33:19 +0000 UTC]

That's fine. I'm just happy that you were able to come down from that anger and see eye-to-eye with me on this. Good onya. c:

I realize that the way I went about presenting my points was very momma bear-esque but that's what happens when I'm already annoyed with things as they are and then I find out that one of my friends is horrendously upset because of what someone said to them. I'd just had enough and I had to step in. I wish I was able to tell you what I was thinking this whole time under better circumstances with a lighter tone, but what happened happened and I guess it's water under the bridge now. Just keep my points in mind. That's all I ask. v v

As for the next few rounds, here's my two cents for logic. Don't change the rules and conditions too much. You don't need to have an NPC end up being the final boss that the contestants have to face. It doesn't really gel with the logic of previous seasons and from the storyline that's unfolded just from the journal entries posted on the actual Blood Sports page. While I understand that there's an extra thrill to go along with doing that, it doesn't meld with what's already been done as far as the competition goes. There's plenty of events, special conditions, and mandatory-inclusions that you can throw into the mix to make the situation more desperate, more action-packed, and more tragic without including one of the most pivotal NPC's as an end-zone boss of sorts. Hell, Fez really doesn't even have to leave his office in order to play puppet-master. He can send out bloodthirsty, diseased monsters after whatever contestants he pleases whenever he wants to up the ante.

The one-person (or two, if the pilot stays behind) idea with the shuttle is interesting. But it'd also present a couple of problems letting it be the way it is without further guidelines to accompany it.

1) This brings back up the issue of what to do with the two people who make it to the end. If the person who ends up winning the final round depicts both their character and their opponent's character getting away to safety on that shuttle, who ultimately wins since both characters survived? When you post the results of that last round, will two people win or will there have to be a tiebreaker? This has the capability of causing extra problems and an extra big headache for you in the end. So this would be something to think about in preparation of writing out the next scenario.

2) By giving someone the option of letting their competitor go instead is wonky and structurally unsound. And this is why: It can practically become a forfeit if the contestant would in fact, in all truth to their character, let the other guy go and stay behind to perish with the planet instead. It leaves the author of that selfless character dead in the water. Because if they somehow win and then their entry ends like that, then what in the world do they do to make that make sense? Just... what do? That's a problem right there in and of itself.

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SaintHeartwing In reply to TheCau [2013-08-01 01:45:31 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. Good points...darn it, it SOUNDED like a good idea...

Perhaps...the entry that's got the most overall points wins, and the ending to Blood Sport could be crafted around that, perhaps with the first place winner being displayed proudly for the crowds whilst, if the competitor allowed one other person to go with him, the second-place runner watches in secret, having escaped the crowds and the gaze of the cameras long before they could find out more than one survived...no, not sure that would work either. Perhaps what COULD work is if it was left ambiguous if the one that brought the winner back was the pilot or the competitor that was the winner's foe, whilst also leaving it open-ended as to whether or not Fez survived through it all since his body is synthetic and he technically could survive in space...and possibly survive even the breaking apart of an entire planet...

Ah well. It's all up to what they think would work best for their own entries.

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TheCau In reply to SaintHeartwing [2013-08-01 02:06:46 +0000 UTC]

That first one is reaaaaally iffy at best and the second one is more feasible as to what you want to do with Fez, but still iffy when it comes down to still having two people at the end.

But you'll figure it out eventually. Don't worry about taking a few days to come up with it. Haste never helped anybody in an artistic sense whatsoever. Let the sideliners bitch and whine about next season and pay them no mind. Their grievances are not relevant here.

And yes, it ultimately is up to the competitors and how they decide to depict their round. Don't get anything too locked-in too early and go with the flow. But be prepared for surprises on the side. v v

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SaintHeartwing In reply to TheCau [2013-08-01 02:08:01 +0000 UTC]

Right, right.

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swiblet In reply to TheCau [2013-07-31 05:56:19 +0000 UTC]

Dayummmmm gurl *snaps fingers in a Z formation* Β 


lol


Seriously, I'm not taking any sides on any issues, but I must say that long thing I just read from you was beautifully written and very concise and to the point.


I think everything's gonna be better real soon.

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TheCau In reply to swiblet [2013-07-31 20:51:00 +0000 UTC]

*hairflip*

We'll see how it goes.

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