UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2018-02-09 06:18:59 +0000 UTC]

Oh, man... I'm fine, just got... You know, a bit far from the net. Just got a really good self portrait and I've come to share it. Your Spanish is great, BTW. I see a feature... Can't wait to check on that. What about you? How are you?

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HoremWeb In reply to UnderTheBondi [2018-02-09 07:42:16 +0000 UTC]

Estoy muy bien, gracias.  Trabajo mucho y no tengo abastante tiempo por todo que quiero que hacier. Siempre la vieja canción, como nosotros húngaros decimos... (Er... is that the right word order here???) 
¡Cuídate, mi amigo!

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UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2018-02-09 07:54:09 +0000 UTC]

The order is just okay, man. I'll start writing in Spanish once you get more of the grip of it (not that you don't got most of it by now) so I don't confuse you with slang and that sort of stuff.
Indeed, always the same old song for both of us. I got some IR on SFX200 film, so I might upload it, since you liked BW infrared. Also planning to mount a small darkroom for printing and learning how to make Rodinal out of Tylenol (or Tafirol, here in Argentina). Like I said, pretty far from the internet. I'm on to learning the old ways now, even if I dare showing up with such post modern return. Haha.
I'm uploading mostly to Instagram. Let me know if you're interested on that.
You too take care.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2017-10-10 09:31:44 +0000 UTC]

LOL. I don't speak any Hungarian, if that makes you feel better. Haha. You're welcome and thank you for your favs too.

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HoremWeb In reply to UnderTheBondi [2017-10-11 06:19:29 +0000 UTC]

 
When I was in my teens I wanted to learn Spanish but there was no possibility then, I mean in our school there was no course. And it would have been too expensive (mainly in time, but financially, too) to take private lessons. Later the Italian took its place, mainly because of the job and now I had the inspiration from you. I'll write you fluently in twenty or thirty years (If I will recognize the keyboard or whatever we'll use then and remember what is that for )

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UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2017-10-11 09:11:01 +0000 UTC]

Haha. I have a few languages to learn too... Spanish can be a lot easier if you speak Italian. When in Frankfurt, last June, I met a sicilian man, 66 years old. He didn't speak a word of Spanish or English and I didn't speak a word of Italian or German. Even with this issues, we had a long and pretty fluent conversation. Spanish and Italian are really a lot alike. Something similar happens with French, but it's not quite the same. As for your mother language... Seriously, I don't know anything about it. I just know it looks weird when I try to read it, so I wouldn't know how big is the gap between Hungarian and Spanish. But I think you can get good at it long before that estimation. You can learn Spanish before you start drooling, no doubt, haha. 

I took some Japanese classes ten years ago. I got expelled from the class, for stupid reasons. Years later I got an apology, but I didn't had the money to pay for the classes anymore and the apology wasn't THAT big, so... Well, hopefully some day I get back to it. I was pretty good. Not the best, but...
And English... Well, technology was in English back in the nineties. Rock is in English. I've learned it by using it. Never took classes. Actually, the times I tried, my teachers said I already knew English and sent me home because they didn't wanna steal from me. 
Now... I sometimes translate some Latin at University. I'm not really following up with the career, but my Latin teacher likes me and well... He included me in this translation group we have. They're all really nice and funny people, so... Languages... So many things to say about them. Haha.

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HoremWeb In reply to UnderTheBondi [2017-10-11 17:42:16 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, that's right! I pretty understand Spanish based on Italian—this makes it difficult for me. I simply don't learn the Spanish words as Idon't really realize that I don't know them But when I want to translate something to Spanish, it gives me a hell. Anyway, Duolingo's Spanish is fun! My favourite sentences were in parctices (up to now, more to follow I think): "Yo soy un caballo, hablo Inglés" and "No, Luis, el niño non es mío" It is more useful than those sentences in Italian course like "the woman told us that her husband must die" and "we did not know that he carries a knife in her boot" (Meanwhile I always wonder about the pronounciation and I really don't know that what I learn is European or Latino-American )

Your English is really good, sounds reads so natural. I always struggle with verb tenses as in Hungarian we have only two and a half (past and present; future is a slightly modified present tense and those bells and whistles like past perfect continuous and future-in-the-past and alike are extinct since ages). On the other hands we have so difficult sentence structures that the highly logical language turns into hell for those who start it. It has a completely alien way of thinking that makes Indo-European languages really hard for us in return. And we have many Turkic and Turkish loan words but even the closest relatives among Altaic languages like Manysi and Khanty sound strange for us (and vice versa) and only the keenest linguists find them related to each other


Some of my friends study Japanese, one of them already passed all available exams in Osaka (I think) and works there in the university... But for me this is a most admired but completely unknown land. 

"Technology was  in English" hey, Chinese is not that widespread yet

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UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2017-10-11 21:14:58 +0000 UTC]

Haha, same happens to me with everything. I mean, when I'm familiar with something from somewhere, I usually leave the details aside and think by analogy. Context kills me in this way... There are lots of words, specially in Spanish, that I never looked up or took years to do so just because I knew what they meant in context but not the definition. I've also happened to use them accurately before I looked up the definition, which gives me an extra excuse for being lazy, haha.  I'm thinking in terms of language now, but this is how I am with everything: as long as it works... And when it stops working I'll go see why (and notice it pretty fast). So... You're a horse and you speak English. Good to know. I hope you're still Hungarian, or you've lied to me about EVERYTHING AND I WANT THE DIVORCE. Kidding, of course. Haha. As for Italian... Well, you know, the drama, the mob... They must have knives and die giving a good impression. Those sentences are useful if one wants to be a TRUE italian. Haha. As for pronunciation... Well, Spanish is weird, man... You're probably learning European. I've also met an English gal in Frankfurt who happened to speak Spanish really good, it was weird, but the point is that she had some accent from Spain, from where she learned... And the other part was from Colombia, from where she lived for years, sounded strange. She also enjoyed switching languages in the middle of a sentence. But notice I say "Spain" and "Colombia". I don't make a direct reference to Latin America. Most of Latin-American countries share the accent or some part of it (they're still a bit different, though)... Except for Argentinians like me. Most noticeable evidence of this is that we accent some verbal forms on a different syllabe. Any other person from Latin America (or even Spain) would say "Cállate" for "shut up", while an Argentinian would say "Calláte" (though that accent doesn't go there when one writes Argentinian verbs down, but I'm putting it there for illustrative purposes). That's just an example that applies to many verbs and verbal forms, and there are others I cannot think of right now, but I think the point is made. Even with all of this, make no mistake: we all get each other while speaking if it comes to pronounciation... Slang is what kills you, because EVERY region (not even country, regions inside the countries have variations too) has a different one and this video explains this perfectly: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LjDe4… (I found it with English subs and they're accurate enough). It's really funny.

Thanks about my English. It doesn't sound as good as I write it because I don't have too many chances of speaking it, really. For the rest... Well, Spanish has lots of tenses and non-tenses, and... Well, I don't even remember how many, which makes it somewhat easy for a Spanish speaker to learn less complex (in this way, of course) languages. I don't exactly get what you mean by "logical language". I mean, I don't think there's any logic in any language (except, of course, maths and technical Logic expressions, and even then I think they're arbitrary). Every language has an alien way of thinking if one is an alien to that language. Haha. And this is fascinating. As for loan words... Well, they're everywhere. English is full of Latin and French, German is full of Latin and English... And usually native speakers don't notice it because they're natural words from where they're looking. And, well... Turkic and Turkish loan words in Hungary makes perfect sense due to the region in the map. 

"To be" is an auxiliary verb in Japanese, speaking of alien ways of thinking. Haha.

As for the "was": nowadays manuals come in Spanish and other languages too (I still read them in English, sometimes technical translations are just wrong). When I was 9, they didn't. Haha. But by then Chinese was already the most spoken language in the world. Even with this fact... I don't think it'll ever be widespread. Too complicated. Haha. Japanese might have a chance, though. It's easier and a fluent Japanese reader can read Chinese (not speak it, they sound way too different).

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HoremWeb In reply to UnderTheBondi [2017-10-16 19:08:13 +0000 UTC]

OMG dat video... Unfortunately it is a bit too fast to read everything, but well, I got the message

Duolingo tries to teach us something weird Spanish: there are two voices, and while the girlie voice says "yo" as an English would, the man says it with a definite touch of French "j", but not exactly... and not always. This makes me rather uncertain. And there are other differences in their pronounciation, too. Perhaps it would be better to learn Slovakian—I have clients from there and there is a language barrier But this video showed me that American English and Euro-English is not that apart from each other (not to mention British—poor islanders are really puzzled when they hear Euro-English, that is just a tiny bit better than Pidgin —but you might hear it )

About "logical language"—I really did not know anything about it, but I often go to Duolingo's Hungarian for English speakers' course to give help and to my greatest suprise most people says that Hungarian is highly logical. Even George Bernard Shaw had an article somewhere stating this. Don't assume mathematical logic there, but well, almost something like that. With very few exceptions and quite a big complexity plus an extremely big vocabulary and helluva sentence structures. As G. B. Shaw wrote (as far as I know) "[Hungarians] have separate word for everything".

For Turkic and Turkish influence the reason is not in the maps but in history. In the first millenia Hungarians lived among Turkic peoples and took a lot. And we were under Turkish occupation for some 150 years. There is even a sentence that sounds almost completely similar in Turkish and Hungarian. "There are many small apples in my pocket" sounds so the same that an untrained ear would be unable to tell which language was that. (I mean, which of the two.)

Okay, now I go back to YouTube and try to get more from that video

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UnderTheBondi In reply to HoremWeb [2017-09-28 00:29:41 +0000 UTC]

Man... Contests always make me angry, for one reason or the other. There is a contest here (in Buenos Aires) I enter every year, and when I look at the winners and those who got only a feature, I think they've got it all wrong. The better pictures are in the latter group, which is also larger (30 features, without a prize; 3 winners, with prize. The interesting fact is that they get the rights for showing all 33 pictures without one being able to complain about it once they're submitted, it's all in the rules). Mine are nowhere there, but that alone doesn't bother me. Starts bothering me when I notice the criteria used by these guys. And nowadays I guess anything the judges think they couldn't do would be considered a manip. I seriously think art is dead and that makes me sad.

About the favs, you're welcome. Thank you for yours, too. Maybe I check your gallery again later, it always has something interesting.
And sorry for the late reply, we have so many conversations at once that I forget to answer to all of them. Haha.

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HoremWeb In reply to UnderTheBondi [2017-10-16 19:41:30 +0000 UTC]

Aye, this is why I don't submit anything to "exhibitions" and contests, too. Most of them are decided within a small circle of known participants and there are very restricted place for newcomers, but they high-jacking your property rights. One of my reknowned, frequently published photographer friend told me that he submitted images to a nature photography contest and he wasn't even chosen for the voting. Next year his submission was the title image on the contest's home page and they used it for the invitations and press release. When he tried to question their manners, they pointed to the Appendix B section 21, in point C §14 small prints that stated that they can do this and don't own anything to the photographer.

I actually subitted my works to two exhibitions where it was declared that everybody can submit 3 images. At the end all my 3 images were on the walls, but it was just a "side dish" for one nature photographer who had about 15 images and two series of 5 images as a topping. As that is not for prize but for presenting ourselves only, I don't care a lot but that left me with bitter taste when my   (with a better framing) was put behind a hat stand. When I asked the organizers to put the hat stand a bit further away, they replied me "But that is its place". It was in the middle of the spring when nobody used that hat stand...

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UnderTheBondi In reply to AshleyWass [2015-09-15 15:42:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the fav.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to AndrewDent [2015-09-08 03:21:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to burningrage8-13 [2015-08-15 01:46:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav.

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burningrage8-13 In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-08-16 17:07:06 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to Ruki-Makino [2015-08-14 04:03:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to Icearstorm [2015-08-12 23:26:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the fav.

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Icearstorm In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-08-13 11:17:39 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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UnderTheBondi In reply to RVeldhuyzen [2015-08-07 06:38:35 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. It's great.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to JassysART [2015-07-31 16:32:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to The-Unreachable-You [2015-07-28 04:22:56 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav and you're welcome.

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The-Unreachable-You In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-07-28 04:45:04 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! (｡･ω･｡)ﾉ♡

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UnderTheBondi In reply to DionysosBacchus [2015-07-12 15:40:32 +0000 UTC]

You're most welcome.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to Pansister [2015-06-26 23:36:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the fav.

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UnderTheBondi In reply to atomicrick [2015-06-22 23:39:57 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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atomicrick In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-06-24 16:49:14 +0000 UTC]

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UnderTheBondi In reply to Colonel-Knight-Rider [2015-06-12 02:06:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for all the favs.

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Colonel-Knight-Rider In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-06-12 05:54:39 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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UnderTheBondi In reply to t-r-a-n-c-e [2015-06-11 00:12:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav, gal.

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t-r-a-n-c-e In reply to UnderTheBondi [2015-06-11 00:38:18 +0000 UTC]

Anytime c:

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UnderTheBondi In reply to ingeline-art [2015-06-07 22:55:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for all the favs.

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