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My entry for 's June theme. Theme was to draw your Dream fight, and i instantly thought of these two, they are 2 of my most favourite game characters. i couldnt bring myself to saying a certain one would win cus their both equal in my eyes.i quite like how it came out, i would've liked it to have been a neater drawing but i wanted to get onto colouring it, i might do another for this months theme aswell, depending on how much free time i have.
Drawn on A3 paper with pencil
Scanned and
Used my A4 wacom tablet to colour it.
C&C welcome
Master Chief (c) Bungie
Samus Aran (c) Retro studios
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thisrandomguythere [2012-12-28 07:02:21 +0000 UTC]
and they start to make out in 3...2...1...
and now they try to figure out how....
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Bobishbar [2006-09-06 22:01:31 +0000 UTC]
Master Chief would kick her if his armor and weapons were just as strong.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-10-23 05:31:25 +0000 UTC]
Not really.
even if he had simular equipment. Samus has already fought against enemies as strong/stronger than herself. to be more specific, enemies that are upgraded versions of herself.
plus he's not the only human out there with Genetic enhancement and life time training/experience.
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-10-24 19:06:49 +0000 UTC]
So has the MC. Ever heard of Elites? Brutes? Even Guilty Spark?
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-10-28 17:05:51 +0000 UTC]
yeah but the margine of strengh between them isn't that great. you can run around Killing them with ease in Halo. but they can be taken out without much effort, and only start becoming as Durable as Metroid enemies in the Halo harder difficulties. even the Crappy Space pirates from MP2 have more durability thean Elites and brutes on normal mode.
I was talking about these two dopplegangers of Samus. SA-X and Dark Samus. who both cripple anything in they're path with Ease.
Samus can't even hurt the SA-X without the stacked beam while it's charged. (Plasma/wave/wide/charge) or the screw attack. anything less than that do fuck all to it. Super Diffusion missiles can't hurt it even while it's charged.
Dark Samus having abilities that cripple even armies on her own. other than being able to fly and enter/exit the atmostphere of planets on it's own.
although, the real battle between them (unarmored) is justified as a battle that is 60/40 in his favor mainly because we don't know Samus full extent outside her suit.
but in an armoed battle even with them both using the Mjolnir is about 50/50. Samus isn't inferior to him or the other way around.
even so how would he even get armor as good as hers?
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-10-28 18:11:33 +0000 UTC]
Wow. You said a mouthful. Though he'd have a chance to get the same armor if they lived in the same time period. If you want a good Samus vs MC battle (though it's slightly exaggerated), check out Haloid, if you haven't already.
The Arbiter is just about as good as the MC, and honor guards/brute cheiftains aren't any walk in the park either. I never played much of Metroid, so thanks for clearing that much up for me.
One main difference between Metroid and Halo is that in Metroid, you rarely run out of ammo, and the weapons are more powerful, not to mention that you can recover health. You also have multiple packs of health.
MC IS a one man army. It's fairly obvious that without him, it would be up to the Arbiter and the Elites to finish the fight, since the Marines continue to get their butts handed to them.
It all depends on what weapons they have, in my point of view. If Samus just has her standard gun, and MC an Assault Rifle, then it's obvious that Samus comes out on top. But if MC has a Spartan Laser, Energy Sword, or Gravity Hammer, he could do some serious damage. It also wouldn't be good for Samus if the MC got in a shotgun round point blank range. But I do admit that with her morph ball, Samus could "blow" his mind. Tee hee. Should Samus get the Annihilator beam, plasma beam, or super missle, however, MC wouldn't stand much of a chance.
All in all, I'd agree that the fight is in Samus's favor, but should the MC lose, he'd undoubtedly give her the best fight she'd ever had.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-11-01 04:33:33 +0000 UTC]
Haloid is a bad Concept about how they would fight as both characters are exagerated. the Spartna only is better than a general spartan, and Samus is Exagerated to both ends of the extreams (like "when could she kick like that?" and "why the hell did that ONE attack take her armor off?")
no he wouldn't get a chance. Samus wears something that can't be found or reproduced, it's an armored suit that uses 1100 year old technology that no one understands other than the Chozo. the people who made it are gone. the people who are trying to copy it (everyone) can't get anything nearly as good. the most he could get so far is a dual energy tank powersuit with something slighty better than morphball bombs. and a rip off morphabll. main weapon pales in comparison.
In metroid, You NEED infinate ammo "and high missile ammo" to live, with Halo weapons you wouldn't survive long in metroid.
SAMUS is a one man armor. put Samus into halo people might actually have an easier time. the enemies from Halo are not as durable as the ones from metroid (from a normal to normal comparison)
you ever heard of Samus Stacked beam? it' when she combines the effects of the Plasma, Ice, Wave, Wide, Charge, Power, Long beams togerther. all their effects too. Making a rapid fire (4-5 shots a second), human sized beam (6 foot radius) that can travel through walls and terrain without slowing or losing power, can be charged for extra damage, and freeze enemies on contact if it doesn't kill it first.
Power bombs which render "melee attacks and weapons" a stupid Idea. and the blast would both protect Samus and either fend off or kill MC in a melee attempt.
Or the screw attack, that would melt his hands, hend off the sword, or the grav hammer would send her flying but brake the hammer in the process.
Spartan Laser might be strong but it really lacks in the rate of fire, not to mention Samus' agility advantage over MC (actually being able to dodge attacks in a straight out fight in game without having to duck for cover)
"it all depends on what they have" Samus general on hand inventory for every game is better than what MC can have considering one of his other major disadvantages. limited ability to carry weapons. she can have all hers on hand legit, he can't.
no, Dark Samus gave her the best fight she ever had, which is the dark Phazon clone of herself with more powerfull than even Samus.
hw;a give her a good one provided he can cope with her crazy weapons not to get killed the first attack. (Samus is carrying weapons a bit "out of this world" compared to what he ususaly fights)
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-11-02 20:18:56 +0000 UTC]
Well, of course Samus has a great advantage: she IS born in the future.
Ever played Halo 3? If you did, you'd know about invincibility. Only thing that can kill the MC is falling of the edge, and last time I checked, Samus doesn't have any sort of weapon that can do that. And the stacked beam would be useless against that, by the way. Sure, Samus has amazing armor and unlimited ammo, but what's stopping MC from simply dropping a Power Drain and taking her out like no one's business?
All MC has to do is keep his distance from Samus and she can't do squat. Sure, she can fire a few missles, but the MC's dodged worse. MC has bullets that wink across the map in the blink of an eye. And power ball? This guy flips tanks on a daily basis. Pat his foot on the ground and away goes Samus before she gets anywhere close to him.
One of the main things about energy swords and Gravity hammers is that you kill your enemy in the blink of an eye, thanks to lunging. Samus wouldn't have time to even start her timer by the time MC got close enough. Another thing about gravity hammers, oh my gosh, they USE GRAVITY! Ever see how far someone goes when just 10 feet in range of those things? Try 30 feet or more. No bombs for Samus.
Ever notice how slow Samus moves, except for when in Morph ball form? It would be too easy for MC to land one solid blow on her, agility or not.
Sort of strong? The Spartan laser can take out any vehicle/being with one solid blow. Last time I checked, that counts for a lot more than 'might be strong'.
Of course there is someone more powerful than Samus: there always is. The thing is, the same thing goes for Master Chief. Sure, Samus has centuries of technology on her hand, but MC has luck. Sure that sounds stupid, but it's true. It's even listed in the very beginning of Halo 3. If he didn't have it, he or no one else could have finished the fight.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-11-03 02:31:32 +0000 UTC]
how is being born in the furture an advantage when your weapons, armor, and tools are over 1100 years old?
I've not played it yet, but I do know that it doesn't last forever. all she would have to do is hide behind cover untill it wears off, turn on the X-ray, and the moment it stops start firing at him through the rock. same stratagy can be used against the deployable bubble shield.
or against this invinceibility, Samus attaches the Grapple voltage and drains energy off him as he's "being invinceable". either restorying her energy or keeping it at full. if the invinceability is a "Field deployable" that I think it is doesn't it work on everyting in the field?
so he's dodge 5 oncoming homing missiles while being fired at with a rapid beams afterwords from someone about as equal in aim and reflexes as himself? or a missile that explodes with a wide range that freezing everything within the near 30 foot range? (except Samus because of the Varia suit protection)
I wonder how the man who could do at max 60 Km per hour is going to keep his distance between someone who runs at speeds that make a Ghost while boosting Seem slow AND can stop on a dime? did I mention while doing so most "physcal" objects are incenerated on contact with Samus because of the energy build up when she does so. even without. Samus can take a lot of shots before deing, a HELL of a lot more than he can.
Samus can survive being stepped on by things as big as the Scarab, I doubt John has the same crushing power as a Scarab tank. and that would be Stupid on his part to attempt to stomp on Samus in morphball as she has the boost ball and more importantly, the power bombs nicknamed "mini nukes" unless his "incvinveability" is implyed he wouldn't survive it f he was standing on top of the damn thing.
unless you mean a shock wave to shove her away, which even something 4 tons couldn't do if droped from 10 feet.
Gravity hammer? WOW Samus has a suit with has the gravity suit, which pretty much alters the gravity around her, so she could move as fast in water as on land, HELL even in Liquid Magma. the Gravity hammer wouldn't do more than throw her away + 1/3-2/3 of a tank. Kill her? yeah. Samus fought against enemies that manipulate gravity. judging by how much it cripple Samus' movmenst (couldn't even jump 5 feet as opposed to the ususal 20-25 feet)
depending on the version, the power bombs either blow up in a 2-3 seconds or blow up the second they are used.
slow? what are you using? Metroid prime? she jogs about the same pace MC shambles in Halo. she isn't Running in metroid (at least at she is but at a very moderate pace even a 8 year old can do) she is a lot faster than that at running pace (she ran the fasted of all on her own in Super metroid probably enough to keep up with a warthog). hell, Speed booster, outrun a boosting Ghost or flying Banshii easy
even without ruling in Metroids (NOT primes) Samus has a certain "dash" ability in Primes, as you seem to know the prime series, it allows her to move around her targets very quickly. put the two characters together in the same game with their respective controle schemes, Samus would be constantly on John's Backside. used very effectively to dodge even the largest of close ranged Melee attack or energy weapons at point blank.
the Spartan Laser is Strong. but I wouldn't use it over Samus' wave buster. by it's function, it holds a lot of advantages over a great many FPS weapons. considering it both "stuns" and damages at the same time with that nearly unavoidable auto lock. hell I'd prefer it over a Scarab gun in 1 on 1 battles.
the power drain function by emmiting EMI (electro magnetic Immisons) to disrupt ELECTRICAL equipment, which causes the shielding systems to fail on the ELECTRONICALLY powered armor's and vehicules in Halo. Samus' suit is not powered by ELECTRICITY (it's actually unknown on what the suit runs on, most people think it's the same "life energy" that metroid are able to drain from creatures), but her Visor is. she has had to deal with EM weapons and effects before. the WORST it does to Samus is cause her visor to static up a little. the power drain would do a little better than Standard EM, only because it explodes.
and one thing you should know about MC
all the weapons he uses. to bring a lot of them into battle, they would have to be lying on the floor so he could get them, he can't carry that many, according to the game only 2 ata time (not including grenades and deployables), but according to the books statis on his armor, 3 plus one in each hand (cumbersom but he could)
the fact that he has to find them aside. what's to stop Samus from using these weapons? what's to stop Samus from picking up a gravity hammer? plasma sword? spartan Laser (I think it need to be operated with two hands, unless it just need the trigger to be fired). these weapons are universal and hand held, Samus has a free hand, plus a Grapple beam to snag them from far away. granted that she couldn't reload them with one hand without having to stop and sit down and play with the gun with one hand, but she could still use them (granted her arm-cannon is more usefull than Halo weapons.)
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-11-03 13:28:28 +0000 UTC]
Um, how about Samus only has one hand? And using the grapple beam would probably just destroy the weapon anyway, so so much for that idea. Sure she could pick up an energy saber, but MC's experienced that situation so many times, that wouldn't even amass to a threat. Gravity Hammer takes TWO hands, genius. MC has to us two hands too, and hell, he has super strength! So even if Samus got her hands on one of those, she'd only be weighing herself down.
Are you deaf? When I say "invincible", I mean INVINCIBLE. Nothing, and I mean nothing, can even scratch MC when he has that thing. And by the way, invicibility acts as a shield, not as some drainable energy source. Nothing except pits of no return, or time itself can take away the invicibility. Same goes for the Bubble Shield. You must not know your facts about it, because if you did, you'd know that it's indestructible. Sure, Samus could always try close range so she can walk inside the shield, but MC'd just knock her lights out anyways. Not even a volley of Wraith bullets, Ghost and Phantom turrets, hell, even a whole army of Brutes with fuel rod cannons can take down a Bubble Shield!
Well of COURSE Samus can take a lot of hits! Her Power Suit was built by the Chozo's, whose armor couldn't be duplicated! Time difference or no time difference, she still has an unfair advantage over MC.
By the way, ever heard of Zero Suit Samus? Turns out that when she gives/takes too much energy, her power suit goes crumble, and Samus is as vulnerable as ever. Sure she's faster, and has the uncanny ability of sex appeal on her side, but it's nothing a locked on missle pod can't solve.
Oh, I must have forgotten to mention one teeny little fact: Rocket Launchers/ Missle Pods lock onto moving objects, such as orange little morph balls. And no, Samus wouldn't have time to dodge those either. They fire in rapid succession and have enough firepower to make Ridley cry.
Maybe Samus can out run a banshee our Ghost, but definitely not a Warthog. Those things are made to jump canyons, and I seriously doubt that you orange herione can do that. Oh, and MC is alot faster than the video games let on. If you haven't already, you should see him in one of Halo 3's first commercials. He's not as fast as a Ghost, but he wasn't named Master Chief getting hit with objects faster than Warthogs, now is he?
No one knows how strong MC really is: though judging how easilly he flips vehicles, I'd say pretty powerful. The guy is stronger than Brutes, 8 foot tall gorilla-like aliens that have trouble flipping over a Warthog. He can kill them with 2 hits, 3 at the most, all the while they have on armor just as good as his, and energy shields. And by the way, MC doesn't need to walk around in lava: he's too smart for that.
A little static is all that MC needs. What's stopping him from laying down a power drain, walking right up to Samus while she's having visor problems, and snapping her neck? Or using shotgun point blank range? Oh, it would't kill her of course, since she has the Varia suit, but trust me, it would HURT.
One thing I should know? Yeah right. Sure MC has to bring weapons into battle, but that's not mandatory. The guy drop-kicks Brute's into submission, takes out armor clad Wraiths in one shot, and drives space ships into ring structures to not just save his world, like Samus, but all sentient life throughout the universe. By the way, all the effective weapons use two hands, and all the one handed weapons take more than one magazine to even take down MC's shields (except for the plasma pistol, but that doesn't even kill). So while Samus is toying around with the guns, MC goes in for the kill.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-11-04 03:31:27 +0000 UTC]
first of all I've seen HUMANS use rocket launchers, shotguns, with one hand (mind you with shit effeciency with things like rocket launchers) weapons with trigger use weapons can be used in one hand, now the recoil might be an issue but there aways trick around it. like super strengh or holding the gun a certain way, which both characters can do.
how would the grapple beam destroy weapons? it doesn't to damage except in super metroid. the only whay Samus to destroy them if if she loads them with energy till. I've seen it attach to Flesh, metal, energy shields, rock rocks, it hasn't destroyed any of those. machines you can drain away from and you can kill things by overloading them with energy. but it doesn't destroy anything.
part too. If MC so fucking strong that can't he can flip tanks with ease, how come he can't lift or use certain weapons with one hand significanty smaller than a tank? hell smaller and probably lighter than a Mongoose, yet you don't see him duel-wielding the spartan Laser with a plasma. Samus is ALSO a genetically enhanced being with super strengh. considering on her own she can jump 30 feet in the air I'd say she's pretty damn strong.
personally how I've seen the chief use the hammer, I'm sure he could do it one handed easy.
I was listening. but the energy drain would drain energy from the never dieing chief, thus she'd just keep her health up too. not invarunrable to attack, but constantly healing.
my MAIN point though that regardlkess to the fact it does make him invaunrable, unless he's got something that'll instant pierce her armor (so far 3 things have done that so far, one was Phazon, a radioactive susbtance powerfull enought o rip holes in time and space, Ing, which could almost pass through anything not charged with "light energy" as they could move around inbetween dimesnions, and the X parasite, which technicaly got in when her shielding was down as it's a creatures that infects on the microscopic level, Samus' armor suit being part organic). or that incincability last like 10 min. it won't be a winning factor for him.
the bubble shield is also something that can't be fired out from, nor does it last forever. and I wasn't talking about the device from draining.
Invincibility is a piece of equipment featured in Halo 3.
"It confers the user with a brief period of invulnerability. When activated the player is covered in shining bands. It is known to be possessed by some or all Brute Chieftains in Halo 3, giving chieftains a brief period of time where they may chase after the player with the Gravity Hammer unhindered, giving them a significant tactical advantage. In campaign, it can be found on some dead Brute chieftains that haven't used a powerup yet."
if it is this devices you speak of. then it doesn't fair to well as it last for a "brief period" and doesn't last forever.
Samus has her own "invicabilities." like the screw attack and speeb boosters.
1: the screw attack make her invaurable to all attacks, except when she collides with big enemies (BIG) or hit with another screw attack. now judging by how it works though, a plasma grenade might knock her out of it, but hitting her with it would be another story because when combined with the space jump she can essentially fly in a erratic patter. fuel rod cannon would be able to negate and probably damage her in this mode a bit.
if using offensively the only weapon other than the fuel rod cannon and greandes I think would get her would be the Gravity hammer. but breaking the Hammer in the process. (as it's smacking highly destructive energy, like it just killed an armor/shielded creature larger than human in one hit destructive.)
2: speed booster, moving to locations at increadible speeds that even where he cannot hit/reach her while he's "invincable" same thing goes for the speed booster as the screw attack, Large enemies aside, "attacks" and standard sized enemies that come into contact are destroyed or just do nothing too her.
no I was reading. but I said it that it doesn't last forever. if it did than the match would end in stale mate. so dispite he's invnceable. She has abilities that would make her nearly
you ever heard that SSBB is not cannon to the Metroid series, that move for one never existed in metroid Metroid? even if. Samus Still has energy shielding In the Zero suit according to the Cannicle game called Zero mission. enough to survive 14 plasma beam shots from the pirates. at at this point, she both has energy shielding, and two hands to use hand held weapon.
and for the most part Samus' Varia suit isn't even at full capacity yet. seems to suffer an insufficient enegy supply, dispit what it can do currently.
I was talking in game, sorry, I just replayed halo 2 multi against my niehbor (lost horriddly) today, I thought the warthog was slower (but it deifinatly wasn't as fast as a flying Banshii in my opinion trying to chase the damn thing down). but I'm still confident in Samus natural speed. then there's her boost ball speed which as actually slower than Samus when she's dashing. but When used right can zig zag with the boost ability if used right, making it hard to hit.
the speed booster on the other hand allows Samus to run at super sonic speds, warthog wouldn' keep up with her. and stopon dime and then use a shinespark. (alowing her to dash non stop untill she hits something in any direction also at super sonic speeds)
yeah, MC can lift tanks but he can't send enemies flying or use certain weapons with one hand. Samus takes being stepped/crushed on by things as large (perhaps only 2/3 or3/4 the size but still fucking huge in comparison) as the Scarab tank. and Samus brushes it off easily. dispite the great many tons of persure something like that would have.
Samus walks in lava 1: because she can without being hurt 2: some critical areas in the game are unreachable in some metroids. so she has to go in it, not that it matters though because after the gravity upgrades, she doesn't get effected or slowed by it.
shotgun up close, yeah it would do a fair bit more damage than most attacks, but she's been hit by much worse.
Unless he locks her into a corner with it and she's NOT in morphball mode (which takes an instant), the power drain would be an easy dashs/double dash to get out of it's range. for one thing it depends on the EM level. Samus isn't always completely blinded by Em weapons, and is still more than able to see. as to get into range of the power drain would sacrifice MC shields, if Samus goes into morphball, 1 there's no neck to snap, 2 now he's dealing with a energy shieled ball with great agility, 3 melee is a stupid Idea with risk of a power bomb. as he'd die faster because he walked into range of the power drain.
hell Samus could jump verticall out of it. and fly away with the space jump/screw attack. boost out away in morphball, run out of range, ect.
an entire magasin. yeah of the weaker weapons. but technicaly weapons like Shotguns are even capable of using with one hands, non augmented humans can do it. why can't these two?
how would she be "toying with hid guns" I just meant that to bring them all into battle they would be on the floor somewhere. hell if anything Samus would destroy them all so he's got nothing to fight with, Her arm cannon has better weapons in it anway.
while he's reloading Samus will wail on him with her weapons that don't reload, and either have a wide shot (human sized) can be fire rapidly, or home in. I was saying that his weapons aren't soley useable by him, or the fact that he has to hork them off Someone else most of the time so the odds of coming into battle with the appropriate weapons with while fighitng someone like Samus. even if you got to chose his starting weapons. according to the game he can only carry two, but considering in the books I'd say 5 at max plus grenades.
so basicly one medium or big on his back
to small or semi small on his thighs,
to medium or small in his hands.
don't get me Wrong, Samus isn't better than the Chief, Physically I'd say they're about equal (in their own respective catagories, I'm not saying Samus is Phyically stronger than the chief) but Samus in an armored battle wins out.
in the same armor they'ed be about equal as Samus is still a highly trained warrior also with genetic enhancements.
but the chief would probably win in unarmored, un armed combat due to his physical strengh and endurance because of the plated bones and more combat expience. at best Samus can stale mate with him in a cowardly fashion by always evading.
nor am I saying he's going to get brutally raped. he'd give her a hell of a fight. he just not equiped enough to make it a fair fight.
Samus = John, give or take a few because of them being better in their own catagories. so it be depending on the situation. both are trained from young ages, with genetic enhanements and wear super armor's
Varia suit and Weapons > Halo weapons and Mjolnir Mark VI.
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-11-05 00:12:32 +0000 UTC]
FINALLY! That's all I meant to say: Samus isn't better than Chief, just better equipped! Boy, you're the only person to argue this long with me on this crappy website, besides Hyourin(sucks).
I guess the main reasons MC doesn't duel wield the Spartan Laser or any other weapon is because it doesn't really make sense: any weapon that can't be duel wielded and is significantly low on ammo usually kills with one hit, thus rendering the need for two useless. But I see your point. MC CAN lift any of those weapons with ease, with just one finger, but it just isn't neccessary. I don't know, man, I don't come up with this stuff.
I suspected that SSBB isn't cannon: It's not like some X parasite is gonna come out of nowhere and suck the energy from Samus.
The rest of your argument makes pretty good since, and though I would love to argue with you all day about how MC would totally own Samus, my attention span has nearly run out, and I am nearly out of facts to argue with. So I have come up with some best case/worst case scenarios for both intergalactic titans:
Best Case Scenario - Master Chief: The MC pins Samus to the wall with his mighty fists, and gets Cortana to shut down her systems. Spartan 117 then proceeds to dispose of Samus in any way he sees fit.
Worst Case Scenario - Master Chief: After a bloody battle that causes both sides severe injuries, MC, by some miracle, gets in a Spartan Laser blast to Samus's face. MC then briefly enjoys a Pyrrhic victory, then shortly after dies himself.
Best Case Scenario - Samus: Samus charges up her stacked beam, and offs the MC in one blast, wasting him like no one's business.
Worst Case Scenario - Samus: After a heated battle between our two favorite space warriors, Samus cryogenically imprisons the MC with her Ice Beam, and brings him in on her ship: A SPARTAN like him should get a better bounty alive than dead.
I can only hope that you would agree with these scenarios of mine, as my attention span is as of now, completely nonexistant. If not, oh well. I've argued my best, and feel satisfied.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-11-05 06:55:23 +0000 UTC]
and Samus would give him a run for his money outside amor's too. she's a exxpert shot and everything like that too. but it is true that because he's older it's obvious that he's had more experience. they've both been fighting and training their entire lives. granted Samus started earlier, but MC is still 15-20 years older than her. dispite she's fought her entire life too. it won't fill that 15-20 year gap of experience he's got every her.. nor change the fact he's got metal plating for bones.
some people say the Samus has denser bones than MC because she lived on a planet that had higher gravity. which makes sense but not at the same time.
she does weigh like 200 pound (yet doesn't look it), but then again she's also 6'3" and stronger than most humans by a lot.
but I have not seen anything other than a small text saying "humans cannot survive on Zebes naturally". nothing about it's gravity being too much for a human.
hey, cortana might not even be compatible with the Chozo made systems have NEVER been seen in Halo. if it even runs on the same type of computer system anyway. like trying to use a program that worked on XP, but isn't at all compatable with Vista (In one case the program just didn't run, the second case I'll mention after)
Samus has been hacked before, but it was by a supercomputer by the made by an alien race very simular to the Chozo, and even shared technologies and have compatable stuff for Samus.
so compatability aside. and the fact it would take quite a bit of effort to pin her to a wall considering she can turn into a near perfect sphere. She can reboot the entire system in like 2-3 seconds manually. this would also be assuming cortana would know how to and if she could get into the Chozo made completely foriegn, never seen before in the halo universe, technology.
what would work better is that if Cortana could at least mess with Samus (even if she isn't compatable, just being in her system as something incompatable would mess it up untill reboot, the second case I was talking about with Vista, I downloaded a program onto my computer that worked on XP, I had to completely reboot and run a system recovery) and he hits her with a power drain so that when she does boot back up she's utterly blind. and he could wail on her with anything and everything he's got. repeat process. (can you hold more than one Deployable in Halo 3?)
I'd say anything with the highest possible ammounts of damage with the biggest volume of ammo.
but otherwise, yeah, feel the same way, no one ever debates like this and it gets annoying having to deal with repetitive Halo fanboys who think that a sticky will handle everything. or even I've defended the chief against people who think she's superior in every aspect..
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Bobishbar In reply to Xerkxes [2007-11-05 19:45:05 +0000 UTC]
Not completely sure if Cortana could do it, but I'd bet on it. Cortana is compatible with a lot of things. If shutting down her system doesn't work, she could always go for the visors. As for deployables, you can hold only one at a time, but it lasts long enough. You can also activate another deployable as soon as there is a vacancy. Deployables usually come in groups on Halo 3.
As for pinning to the wall, I'm not sure how that would go, but the MC could probably manage to get in enough time for that.
Glad to know that someone else defends the MC. True, the sticky is powerful, but would merely cause Samus's screen to brighten, maybe push her back a few feet, but nothing entirely harmful.
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Xerkxes In reply to Bobishbar [2007-11-06 00:58:06 +0000 UTC]
from what I can tell Samus suit runs as one fuction.
shutting down the suit would be no different than shutting down the visor. plus aiming for just the Visor would be just about as effective, but Samus would still be able to reboot.
Pinning Samus to the wall would be difficult as one, she isn't weak, two, like I said last time Morphball, three she perminately armed. but it's not impossible, as he's stronger.
my only thing about this match is I want to see MC face (or hear his expression more or less) when he see's Samus turn into a ball.
stickies? wouldn't kill her her shielding would absorb the blow, but grenades arrn't weak, they'd do Some fair bit to her energy, I mean it would take quite a number to kill her.. and considering what I've seen them do to the Chief? I've seen him ragdoll-ize and sent flying from some grenades hits, he goes flying, and he's much heavier than Samus. they'ed push her back a fair bit. (but she could probably recover with the space jump or use the morphball to help recover as well).
I've gotten into this arguement before in other places, a lot of the people on Samus' side who use facts like I do, do tend to make John weaker sounding than he is. and undermine some of his abilities and act as if he's just another Human. I was one of the few people who was on Samus' side, but found myself having to defend him from being made to look weaker than he is because people started making Biased facts against him.
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moefredthegreat [2006-06-25 04:19:52 +0000 UTC]
Samus wins, no contest, because she is the ultimate butt-kicker of all videogame-dom, and my best character at Super Smash Brothers Melee. Besides, Master Chief is just Bill Gates in disguise anyway.
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310 In reply to moefredthegreat [2006-06-25 08:39:33 +0000 UTC]
although i am a real big fan of Master Chief and think he is uber cool, i do agree with you on the outcome of this fight, Samus is a hot firery vixen who kicks ass of anyone who stands against her, plus the fact she not only is the more technologically advanced but she also has more of a varied aray of weapons (plasma beam, Ice beam, wave beam, morph ball bombs....etc.) where as MC has....a machine gun, grenades, and a rocket launcher. He would deffinitly put up a fight but doubt he could win in the long run, would be an ace fight to see tho.
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moefredthegreat In reply to 310 [2006-06-25 23:02:37 +0000 UTC]
Two words: Annihilator Beam. That alone settles it.
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310 In reply to moefredthegreat [2006-06-25 23:43:41 +0000 UTC]
lol indeed look proof [link] badly drawn proof, but proof just the same
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AngelCrusher [2006-06-18 01:26:49 +0000 UTC]
Cool man. This would be a great fight, although am more biased towards MC. I'll post it asap....got too many messages at the mo. :s Taken hours to get through.
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310 In reply to AngelCrusher [2006-06-18 08:06:24 +0000 UTC]
lol, dont worry about it, take ur time
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