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The people started to gather in the Ballroom that usually was enough space to let many people enjoy the dancefloor,Now chairs took their place and a small stage with a projector. And two well known pirates trying to explain things
as clearly as possible.
Damon: you see their snowflake "blankets" should not go past their behind and.... Lyo xD ..stop that
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Due to the many types of the Breed, the Obertaurer has a wide
range of appearance. Which now is desired to be standardized to the
original, typical Obertaurer builds.
THAT means the Types AMI, ÖSI, HUN will disappear.
First of all Pure Obertaurer (Russian and those who originate from Austria)
are viewed to be the Standard, classic type of the breed.
-> see OBERTAURER SHEET for detailed Information
Those are Unchanged "Pure" Obertaurer, but now to be classified as:
Obertaurer
and
Admiralskaya
(Russian Obertaurer)
How do i know the classification of my Horse?For those who are having a Pure Obertaurer on their Pastures it is easy.
Is your horse an Import from Austria? -> Then it is an Obertaurer
(not ÖSI, AMI or HUN! simply remove the type classification)
Is your horse a bred Pure Obertaurer it also stays an Obertaurer
Here is a little help identifying your horse:
Obertaurer:
-All Imports from Obertauern-Austria
All "Pure" Obertaurers bred in harpg
Obertaurer X Mustang (formerly AMI)
Obertaurer X HalfingerMustangCross
Admiralskaya:
(Russian Obertaurer)
-Obertaurer was born in Russia, is considered a Russian Obertaurer
(exceptions for conformational flaws or wrong coloring of the horse!)
-and EVENTUALLY if your horse is a direct offspring/Grandfoal of these horses:
RPS Alexandro
RPS Bruck an der Mur
RPS Newsky
RPS Kalinka
RPS Novosibirsk
*life-d-sign 's Dostojevski
What about the Other Types?-Obertaurer X Haflinger (formerly ÖSI type) NOT THE IMPORTS! Former Imports are automatically Obertaurer!
->will need a Keuring at the Group to inspect if the Horse fits the Standard of the breed to be an Obertaurer.
-Obertaurer X Draft Horse (formerly HUN type) too heavy horses won't be accepted Obertaurers anymore.
-> needs to be discussed at the Conference if these stay a type
-Obertaurer X Warmblood
-> STAYS with the term Warmblood OTX
-Obertaurer X Thoroughbred
-> STAYS with the term Obertaurer Sporthorse
Quick Information about Obertaurer Colors!!!Obertaurer:
Every base color!
Typical Colors: Every kind of Roan, Sabino,Dun, Grey, Pangare, Flaxen and Silver
-Snowflake (Blanket Appaloosa, ONLY on the horse's butt!!)
-Melt Snow (Tobiano, Overo, extended Splash)
-Conversation (Mutated Grey gene causing light dappling and "eyebrows", often appears with sabino)
Rare/untypical:
Solid colors (black, chestnut, bay)
champagne
pearl
rabiccano
NO OBERTAURER COLOR:
-Dominant White
-Brindle
-Birdcatcher Spots
-Leopard Appaloosa/Extended Blanket Pattern
Admiralskaya:
Mostly Blacks, Chestnuts and Bays.
Typical colors:
flaxen, sabino, grey, Silver, Pangare
Rare/untypical:
cream genes
champagne
roan
melt snow
snowflake
NO ADMIRALSKAYA COLOR:
-Dun
-Dominant White
-Brindle
-Birdcatcher Spots
-Leopard Appaloosa/Extended Blanket Pattern
-Pearl
----------------------> TAKE A LOOK TO THE OBERTAURER FOLDERS!!!Some horses had been moved to the right folder.
If you dont find your horse in the current folders COMMENT to this deviation with the Ref of your horse.
(will add it to the group into the right folder)
If you have any further Question its your chance to shoot them all at these two
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you can mention that yes : )
but people should defs check parents before breeding xD
and indeed aslong as the foal has obertaurer-accepted color they are considered Obertaurers ^^
i mean..in real life conformational flaws would matter too if the foal looks nothing like one but who would seriously draw it that way on purpose xD
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Had another question. Now if you cross a pure obertuarer with an old type obertaurers, warmblood otx, or obertaurer sporthorse will the foals be pure again or the crosses? Or does that all depend on their builds?
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Old Types crossed with pures might be pure if its not too heavy.
pures crossed with OTX and Sporthorse will always result OTX or sporthorse. needs probably a lot of generations to make it pure again because they have breeds in them that is no foundation breed of the obers
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Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to know.
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Hi, sorry a bit late for the conference but had a question if an Obertaurer is bred to a Spanish Norman (50% Percheron/50% Andalusian) What would the foal be? Would the Spanish Norman parent be considered a Warmblood so the foal would be an OTX? Or would the draft blood a now Old Type Obertaurer?
I also have conference images I am working on! XD
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it would be an Old Type Obertaurer, thanks for asking x3
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I have made a Ober yet (since I'm kind of waiting), but should we ask before we trying using one of those untypical ones...I made a amber champagne mare (she's not official yet though, more just until), but...
She's more of a wild horse than actually used much *scratches head*
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ehm Obertaurers are not free to create you know that right ^^"? only to be imported or bred
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I have a quick question ^^
I am trying to figure out whether to classify Löwenzhan [link] as an Admiralskaya or as a pure Obertaurer.
Her father is a direct foal from Alexandro, making him Admiralskaya, but her dam is a pure Obertaurer.
Therefore, I'm not sure what that would make Löwenzhan.
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Löwenzahn's colour wouldnt fit Admiralskaya's terms of solid colors ^^"
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So that makes her a pure Obertaurer then? I just wasn't sure what a Admiralskaya crossed with an Obertaurer would make XD
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it always depends if the horse fits bodybuild and coat color standards to admiralskaya to be one ^^" you can see on breedsheet or pattern lecture its explained too i think
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I think I got confused because Löwenzhan is no longer an extended blanket pattern, but spotted blanket.
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its still not typical for admiralskaya but for Obertaurers a lot thats why their all Obers ^^
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Okay, I see ^^
Is Istvàn still considered Admiralskaya? He's Melt Snow, but his father is Alexandro.
Sorry for asking so many questions. My Obertaurers are my favorite horses, so I want to be sure they're correct.
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for being direct offspring from Alexandro and having quite solid color despite the overo he can go as admiralskaya but if anyone has admiralskaya foals from him please dont let the overo pass ^^" or if they are overo its obertaurer, too far related to Alexandro
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I have a slight problem
Lowenzhan was designed for me by IVS:
[link]
Since she has appaloosa spotting that extends beyond her rump- what needs to be done? Her parents are both pure Obertaurer.
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Yes you'd need to re-design her if thats possible :C i havent seen her sent to the group gallery id have said earlier its not possible ._.
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I can do a redesign of her soon, it's not a problem. 
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oh just make sure the tiny spots dont go over her butt xDDD
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Was just wondering if Dyonisos is an Admiralskaya or not? In his ref here: [link] he is called a russian obertaurer with andalucian influence. Will this make his offspring Admiralskaya?
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to be honest i am not rly sure about him either because he'd actually fit Admiralskayas and Obertaurers just same much hes build and colored between the two and no idea yet OO
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Maybe he could be half and half, and it depends on the build of the offspring if they are classed as admiralskaya or obertaurer? Just an idea, and then you don't have to choose which one he is
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Here are the boys taking notes :3 well... one is at least 
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Hey...
So if I understand this correctly, as the HUN will be no more, Skadha (seen here: [link] ) would lose his Obertaurer status, correct?
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its not discussed yet what will happen to the HUN part of the breed, maybe it stays maybe it won't ^^"
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Here I come with all my questions!
So as I understand Scat is now just simply Obertaurer. Than what about her halfblood offspring: SS . She's half andalusian but was born in Russia so does that make her halfblood admiralskaya or what? oO Also I wanted to ask you if her conformation is not too iberian? I plan to breed her to admiralskaya stallion some time but I doubt if the foal will fit the standarts (yes, I'm a patriot - more russian obers, MOAR!)
And the last question is bothering me the most: Wow - she RPS Bruck an der Mur's grandfoal so is she considered admiralskaya now?
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yes Scat is simply Obertaurer ^^
well SS has a really nice build actually but probably a bit too iberian. i think if SS would breed to an Obertaurer again,
her offspring can be "licensed" to have Admiralskaya foals if SS's offspring is being bred to an Admiralskaya. hope thats not confusing.
and yees WOW might even be a Russian Obertaurer m the colors and bloodline fits x)
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So if SS is bred to correct stallion her grandfoal will suit admiralskaya standarts, will take it in mention.
As for Wow must I draw some pic with inspection is she fits the standards for admiralskaya or simply change the breed and stay happy? XD
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yes exactly there will be a lecture about "keuring" too maybe you look forward to that ^^
haha simply write "Russian Obertaurer" or "Admiralskaya" as her breed, or both for people who dont know its the same breed xD and have a nice day!
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Oh, can you please move Wow's ref in the group?
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fixed ^^ now her foal Advent is also an Admiralskaya because she'd fit the color and i guess was born in russia at SinPS xDD
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Haha I would do the exact same thig as Lyo is if I was there.... the laser pointer is just too fun X3
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Hahaha, leave it to Lyo to take the seriousness away xD.
So my questions are for those that used to be HUN type would that mean to make them more "Obertaurer" built that they should be bred to more smaller Obertaurers? Or does it matter what they are bred to? Would it still make them pure if they were built more on the bulkier side?
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Quick question, because my foal i am recieving is out of RDR's Kisses "Passionate Need" [link] and PS's Ronaldo [link] , what would it be? I went over their lineages and the stud is labeled AMI but has 3 of your horses listed under Admiralskaya? And from what i saw on the mares lineage, since her "type" wasnt listed on the ref, was a AMI... so the foal could swing both ways or no? Sorry if it sounds confusing xDD
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your foal will be an (Austrian) Obertaurer because the most horses from both parents are Austrian, those russians were rather far back in the predigree also not sure if the foal would meet their color standards, looks rather fancy xP
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alright thanks xD and just for the heck of it, because i asked it under the lecture journal, when i get the time and see what the foal looks like, ill do an image for ya for the class xD hehe
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alright thanks xD and just for the heck of it, because i asked it under the lecture journal, when i get the time and see what the foal looks like, ill do an image for ya for the class xD hehe
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My cremello OberxMustang cross mare [link] , I didn't see her or my other OberxMustang cross [link] under the Obertaurer cross folder.
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