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Que puedo decir, Sam es la mejor! xD toma eso Paulina!Fondo: DPSIMDATE Background 3 Hallway
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"No need to date a jock when you ARE a jock..."
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English: What can I say, Sam is the best! Take that Paulina!
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Oil and water= Sam and Paulina
"If that means I cant stand by you and drown in a puddle then yes you`re shallow"
Can`t believe Danny actually had a crush on her but wised up in the second season when he found out how much of a bitch she is!
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Danny still had a crush on her even in season 3. There was a scene in the vortex episode where it showed him not only happy that the halogram Paulina wanted his attention but it shown him also getting pissed off when Halo gram Dash showed up.
What they did in later seasons was not have him wise up, but rather look at other girls besides her and personally out of all the human girls I still feel Valerie was a far better fit than Sam ever was.
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I agree Valerie did mesh better than Sam but then even how Valeire came wasnt handled good I mena vVad gives her the armor to not fight ghosts but Danny then it took Val in the mayor election to realize Vlad was duping her all along but then she doesn t go after him for it
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Well to be fair to Valerie the very next episode was the series Finale Phantom Planet and we all saw how much of a train wreak that was.
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Tell me about it Vlad became a total ass well he was an ass from the beginning but even more cliched
the only good thing was Jack FINALLY wising up to Vlad and leaving his stupid ass in space
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It is shame that Danny didn't wise up and just either get over his crush on Sam because no offense this episode made her even worse than any other episode in the series and believe me there were some bad ones with her and what I am getting at is that Speech that Danny ended up rewarded Sam for by making her his girl.
Not only did she emotionally abuse him yet again, but she also literally was saying "Screw your point of view" as well as "You weren't anything without your powers."
I mean 99% of that speech of hers was a combo of Emotional abuse, (which her fans at the time told me was 'tough love') narrow mindedness and basically going on about his powers being the only thing that made him great as well as how proud she was to be apart him being unique and once again forcing her way down his throat. The only good thing that came out of said speech (and in my opinion should have been the only thing Sam should have said) was the point about how she felt safe with him protecting the town.
There were so many red flags in that speech it wasn't even funny but sadly Danny didn't see them.
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Well Danny is immensely thick headed and not very bright either. Often he becomes putty to either Sam Paulina or any girl for that matter!
I never liked Sams "I`m right you`re wrong F.. you I`m not listening to you' attitude as the show went along I was HOPING Danny would tell her to shut the hell up!
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I think more along the lines of being too nice for his own good is more accurate. The only area he was dense in (which made 0 sense seeing as in the beginning he wasn't nearly this dense) was about how Sam felt about him as he grew in certain areas.
But to be honest part of him being putty to the girls was the fact that he didn't have a long list of girls who actually liked him for him, as well as the girls he left manipulate him he had feelings for. Remember both Paulina and Sam were both girls he liked. Plus when it came to calling out girls for doing wrong doing or putting them on the hot seat due to causing him grief nothing ever came good of it for Danny.
When he called out Sam for everything she did wrong to him in memory blank not only did she refuse to take responsibility for her actions (which unless something extreme happens is a normal for Sam) but when he didn't agree with him and had his own opinion that didn't match her own she not only emotionally abused him but in a sense made a wish that ended up giving her what she wanted after everything was said and done.
Then there was his Sister in a later episode. Danny had not to long ago found out about her knowing the truth about his secret and when this happened she became even more overprotective and wanted to help him fight ghosts Sadly for her she was not only screwing up but causing Danny grief which she didn't see. So Danny when he couldn't take it anymore told her off which sadly everyone in school heard, and the end result was him not only feeling bad, but taking punishment from his sister due to telling her how felt at the time.
With a track record like that I personally can see why Danny choose to ignore the grief and flaws the girls around him gave. It shows if anything that he wasn't too dense but rather just too nice for his own good which was something the majority of the girls who were after him took advantage off.
It was why I truly wished Valerie would have been his girl in the end. She as I mentioned was the only girl who truly romantic wise like Danny Fenton for his human self but had to be the only girl who who was a love interest that didn't manipulate him.
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So Paulina is mad that Sam has Danny's attention? Even thought she doesn't know that Danny Fenton is Danny Phantom.
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I think this was after she found out.
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well Paulina missed the band wagon on that one
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I never quite worked out if Paulina really liked Danny or if it was more a pride thing for her: She decides who she gets or rejected; no-one turns their back on her, especially not for someone like Sam!
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I like that the Jacket on Sam is now linear. Looked way to baggy to even fit Danny.
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Paulina should've taken the chance she had to have Danny >:3
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Paulina never liked his human half. She was only in love with his ghost half.
But now that everyone knows that he is Danny Phantom, I would imagine that Paulina would try to be all over him
I imagine that if they had continued the show after Phantom Planet and Paulina tried to make a move on him, he would probably say something like "Sorry Paulina, Sam is my girlfriend".
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Is it alright if I make a character base from this?
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what's the matter Paulina? can't handle Sam being Danny's girl?
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Hypocritical goth with writers pet status beats queen B. Yeah it was quite obvious that it was going to happen.
While most love the goth girl I personally like the queen B better even if she wasn't even a potential pairing for Danny like Valerie was.
But putting my personal distaste for Sam aside your art style is excellent and far better than anything I could draw of this fandom.
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Srlsy? What was there to like about Paulina? she gave the term "Beauty is only skin deep" a whole new definition with her cruddy attitude :/
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Paulina despite her flaws was always true to who she was. She was aware of all her flaws and was 100% truthful no matter what the situation was. You could say she stuck to fault like Danny stuck to his hero complex.
But Sam? Lets points that TheRisenChaos brought up are a massive understatment. But lets begin shall we? In the very first episode just because she thought Meat wasn't needed she wore down the PTA into doing an experiment of removing the meat for a week with plants being the replacement. Now this wouldn't have been so bad "IF THERE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SOME PEOPLE WHO WANTED IT!" From what we saw of this episode no one wanted this change but her, and she literally took away everyone's choice in what they had to eat. Not only this, but can I ask who did the student body take their anger out on? Was it Sam who actually deserved it seeing as she was the one who took away their choice of food? Nope they took it out on Danny and Tucker her best friends who "FELT THE EXACT SAME WAY AS THEY DID!" in other words they were made to suffer for her actions, not to mention she was the reason the lunch lady ghost showed up.
Her taking away their choice was bad enough on it's own, however when she sees what her change is causing does she try to clean up her mess and either (A) reverse the change she made or (B) make it where both menu's are up so the students have a say in what they eat? No she opts to do (C) Leave everything as it is because it is what she wants. Heck when Tucker who in one of the few instantes in the show decides to go against her and need I remind you have every right to do so since he along with the rest of the students are suffering does she take the time to see his and everyone elses point of view? Absolutely not! She was willing to go as far as to severe her tie of friendship with him, and while Tucker was also guility of the later as well force him to choose between them and this is only the first episode.
The very next episode where Paulina is first introduced as TheRisenChaos mentioned Paulina was very civil and even when Danny lost his pants she didn't mock or insult him but rather took it as a way that he was trying to impress her. No it wasn't until Sam opened her mouth and indirectly insult Paulina which was when Sam pushed Paulina's provoke button. That was when Paulina decided to get her revenge and she even was 100% honest with who she was when she said it. Yet at the end of it all despite both teens being wrong, and both of them needing to learn a lesson who is the one suffering the backlash? In this case Paulina due to her losing her date, where as Sam despite her being the person who started this not only has her bad behavior ignored, but get rewarded for doing so. So what am I supposed to get from this? It is ok for me to start problems as long as I don't do the greater evil? Oh and this won't be the last time something like this happens in the series.
Now lets go further into the series seeing as If I didn't I could make an even larger essay of why I dislike Sam. Lets look a beauty marked. In this episode a beauty contest was going on something that once again that everyone with the exception of Sam didn't like. So what does she do? She goes and signs up despite not liking it, and what was her reason for signing up? Answer to protest it and show in her opinon 'just how stupid said contests' are. Now if lets say for example the girls were being forced to perform against their will for example was happening then by all means I could jump into Sam Camp. However guess what. Every single one of the girls not only wanted to be in the contest to compete for who was the most beautiful, and talented, but They all signed up willingly! In other words there was 0 wrong going on. Now had Sam actually opened up her narrow minded eyes a little she would have known that despite being judged for looks the contest was also judging people for "TALENT" as well. You know something that could show just how unique even and every one of the girls who were in the contest were? Something that you know Sam wanted not only her friends but everyone else to be? (Despite this already being true anyways) Heck if she thought it through she instead of mocking the thing she could have shown how unique and beautiful she was in a good way. That dress she wore in Parental bonding had to be not only the most unique dress I have seen but went perfectly with Sam's own beauty. She could have not only brought that back, but also used her own unique talents to show and say "Hey look at me I can be beautiful and pretty to!" But no she goes down the route of trying to sabotage the content. And worst of all due to the plot somewhat becoming revolved around her and throwing some lesson on to the judge who is also the judge she end up winning said contest and spitting on all the girls who wanted to enter said contest for the right reasons. Seriously man you want me to get into the camp of a girl who is willing to pull off such petty stuff as this?
While there is more I would like to add let me fast forward to my final nail which is the series finale and the episode Sam and Danny became an official couple Phantom Planet. In this episode due to a wave of misfortune and the final one being his parents being arrested due to him having ghost powers he does the one thing team Phantom doesn't like which was remove his ghost powers and become normal. While I will give Sam some leeway due to Tucker and Danny's sister acting all shallow as well, The fact of the matter is they all went into guilting him for removing his powers. Then to make matters worse when Danny for the first time in his life is happy that his friends and family are safe what does Sam do? Throw a tanturm because Danny for once in his life did something he wanted that went against what she wanted.
While I get she wanted to bring up her point that she felt safe with him protecting the town, did she just get to the this point? No she didn't! She went on to say "You are just a normal teen and a selfish one at that!" then she went on to about how his powers made him special, and how they made him unique due to him being able to fight ghost due to them while normal kids had to deal with fighting acne and then went on to make it sound like he committed murder for giving it up! Hell even at the end while she mentioned she would be his friend that she couldn't sit on the sidelines, and I can't see how you can.
Seriously? I mean really Sam? Did you for once take a look at his point of view and even try to understand how he felt or did you like always shove your view down his throat without any regard for how he felt? Not only this she went on and on about guess what "His powers!" His powers made him unique, his powers made it so he could fight ghosts, and so forth. I don't know about you but this entire speech she made truly made me feel she only liked him because he gained those powers and grew into something that she had a hand in molding.
But here is the thing Danny's powers are in a sense the equal to what Tony stark puts on when he fight evil. In other words a suit of armor. Can the armor work correctly or at 100% effiency without the user? In both cases no. And in Sam's case seeing as she is his best friend the person who has been there sense day one should know this better than anyone (with the exception of Tucker) Yet as I pointed out did she go down this route of trying to understand how he felt, go a route to Empower Danny Fenton the person who wear the armor that is the ghost powers? No she went on and on about the armor and how it made Danny what he was and as I pointed out before unlike Paulina Sam knows all this.
Yet I am supposed to ingore this massive dump of crap for the few fluffy moments that are sprinkled on top and the few and far between times Sam shows she can be a good friend? Sorry but while many can I can't. Especially seeing as despite her being the obvious favorite by the creator she didn't get an ounce of character growth that sticked which is something you would expect seeing as well she was the one receiving massive favortisim far beyond the level of what any A-list student got.
With them While I totally agree with you on them getting away with stuff they shouldn't have their actually had method to the madness in almost every instance it happened. The mass majority of the time it was to show the point that the staff played favorites to the popular crowd. It was shown perfectly when Paulina started dating Danny in episode 17. Mr. Lancer even said "Well that certainly ups your street cred you two have fun. Mr. Foley you aren't dating out of your league you can smack the erasers." However Sam's had nothing to do with plot. Hers was for If I had to say Just because she was... well Sam, because when it came to learning lessons for Sam it was basically "Heads she wins" tails You Lose. In other words she almost always got out of learning lessons and as I previously stated on more than one occasion got away with her bad behavior and never learned from it.
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It doesn't matter whose true to their character or not. High school hijinks aside, Paulina could match Sam in the sucky department blow for blow, if not surpass her from time to time. Least Sam wasn't mean or cruel 24/7, unlike the former almost.
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Paulina had her good moments in the series however like how Sam's negative moments stuck out with me over her good moments the same could be said for those who dislike Paulina.
Hell near the very end of the series in the episode claw of the wild Paulina when she learned that Star was missing actually showed concern for her, and even admitted that she considered Star her best friend. While overlook for the majority of her negatives (in the same way I can say many feel for Sam) this was a massive development of character growth seeing as prior to this she never considered anyone her friend or even showed Genuine concern for anyone else's well being (with Danny Phantom being the exception)
That right there proves your theory of Paulina being cruel and mean 24/7 but there were other moments as well when this wasn't the case.
the second episode before Sam provoked her due to having an axe to grind Paulina as pointed out was totally civil including to Danny who would have normally in later episodes she would remind doesn't have a shot with her. Heck even when he lost his panties she even said what she said to make so he could save face so while not the way most thinks she should have acted it was a hell of a lot nicer than later episodes.
Episode 21 at her 15th birthday party
She not only invites most of the nameless unpopular students (which was something she would normally never do) but at her own party when being watched by Sam we here the later in a rare moment say "Oh my god Paulina is acting almost human" Meaning that she being mean spirited or evil but just a teenage girl wanting to have fun.
My point being is that as Paulina while not the most together character in the world isn't the spawn of Tartarus either and there were moments in the series that proves this.
Point being that despite Paulina having her own negatives and issues as we saw in episode 9 she had her own worries, concerns just like any other person, she had her good moments where she was nice, and in the end she even showed concern for someone other than herself which compared to the beginning of the series is character growth something I actually like seeing.
But still if you removed high school hijinks guess what? Sam would still have an axe to grind with Paulina. Why because Paulina represents everything she feels a girl shouldn't be. Also if everything that happened in school happened outside Sam would still do all the same stuff she did in school.
Sam would also still be all those negatives I mentioned before school or not, and heaven forbid I try to call her on something she does wrong, or have a different opinion than her.
Seriously why would I want to be friends or even like a girl who would quickly severe a strong friendship over me wanting to undo a change that she made which in turn torments me?
Why would I want to be friends with a girl who would have no problem guilt tripping me whenever I do something she doesn't like, or worse throw a temper tantrum for it?
And as we pointed out all this was outside of school. While I can say Sam isn't the worst character in the world, she leaves a lot to be desired when you actually look at her as a whole, and the fact that she didn't grow any when she was the second most important character while Paulina, a side character who was more linear than a straight line got more growth than her is extremely sad.
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Paulina never pretends to be anything other than what she is. She's fairly self aware about what a spoiled and not too bright diva she is, and mostly seems to want to mind her own business than bullying without provocation. Even if unintentionally, it's easy to see why she could be seen as a more likable and sympathetic character than Sam, who is self righteous, hypocritical, judgmental, a poser, and acts like she has a stick up her butt all the time.
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I Don't care whose truthful or whose not, I just don't like mean spirited and bratty people. Sure Sam's pretty condescending and a little arrogant sometimes but at least she puts some effort into being or trying to be nice.
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