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Askeptykal — TF2 Class Guide Pyramid
Published: 2008-07-26 06:14:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 19391; Favourites: 118; Downloads: 502
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So, I was thinking about how many of each class a team should have, and I decided that you could organize the numbers on something similar to the food-guide pyramid. So, I decided to make this....yes, I AM aware that they have a new food guide pyramid. However, this is the one I grew up with, and the new one totally sucks, so I'm totally refusing to acknowledge its existence. This one's also more text-friendly.
I am also aware that teams don't come in sizes of 20. This is another good nutrition reference, to a 2000-calorie diet. Also, 20 is a nice, even number.
You may disagree with this chart. That's acceptable. However, let me point out right now that, 99% of the time, a team does NOT need more than one Sniper and one Spy at a time. ESPECIALLY with Snipers. But seriously, if you have a good sniper and a good spy, you don't need more than one. Simple as that.
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This is nice, but I'm sorry to say that medic is a balanced class and the most optimal team composition would be 20 medics.
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This was made in an era before Demomen had swords, and were therefore capable of contributing to the team.
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LOL. I hate Demoknights.
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2 to 4 engineers? depends on what ur playing. you will definately need more than 2 when you play capture the flag and the teams are large.
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There's a new one? fuck that I'm staying with this one.
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I owe you a comment for fave and running. Sorry.
This pyramid is a great idea of a proper team constitution. The reference to the pyramid of old also is always nostalgic. Very classy (Derp.).
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Oh, come now, you don't owe me anything.
But still, thank you, I appreciate it
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I agree completely except for the medic. You really only need 1 or 2 medics. More than that results in overkill or a waste of team space. Interesting though.
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Probably not.
The fake excuse is that it's emulating the "based on a 2000-calorie diet" bit that they include on nutrition labels.
The real excuse is that working with a smaller number would have been harder XD
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should of noticed that first part. and I agree with the second
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wow i wish every one saw this. i was just on a gold rush map going blu i they where all saying "o my god why are we loseing WHY!!!!" yeah 4 snipers and 2 engis and 1 medic the other team had 4 soldiers 2 or 3 heavys 1 engi and a few medics and blu won they used a medic 
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Thank you, two years later and I STILL constantly find myself yelling at my team whenever I see three Snipers or Spies. I just don't understand why people think adding a third will be helpful at all.
Especially when I see two Snipers standing in the SAME SPOT, that is completely uncalled for.
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I just wish people would abide by this chart when I go to play! I agree with it so much.
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I know, right? I made this two years ago and I still have to yell at people when there's too many Snipers or Spies on a team.
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Lols! I hate joining a 2fort server when there's like 5 snipers and 1 Engie...people need to realize that engies are important. Same with medics--They're boring, but useful!
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Medic, boring? I think not, I love playing Medic.
And then all five of those Snipers stand around on the battlements and it's like, why bother?
I did yell at two Snipers on Dustbowl today who were standing about five feet away from each other and who were aiming in the same direction. C'mon, there's no reason for that.
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I love playing Medic, too. It's boring but I like the feeling of being a great help to my team. I just don't like how there's not much combat to do when you're medic though
Lol, wow...why am I not surprised? 
My favorite classes are probably Scout, Heavy, and Spy!
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I go combat Medic sometimes. Like when I see a Spy or am trying to finish somebody off.
The problem with the Sniper is that Valve made him TOO cool. See, people like sniping in games as it is. Then you go and make the Sniper a tough Australian bushman-type, which is, like, the epitome of cool. So of course everybody wants to play as him.
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Yeah, Sniper's personality is too "cool"...x_X I hate how that made him so popular! Same with the Spy.
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Demoman is too cool too. The sword and shield didn't help. What do those have to do with demolitions, anyway?
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LOL yeah, chargin targe and eyelander have nothing to do with demolition, although I think they're there since they're scottish or something, lol.
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Pssh, that's like saying the Spy should be able to destroy buildings with a baguette because he's French.
And anyway, how does the Demoman sever a head clean off when he swings the sword straight downwards? How does this make any sense?
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Yeah, the eyelander's decapitationness doesn't make too much sense. x_X BTW, what's your favorite class?
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I wouldn't say I have a strict favorite, though I mostly play Medic, Soldier, Scout, and Pyro.
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I don't really have a strict fave, either, lols. My mos tplayed are scout,heavy, spy, and pyro.
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Ah, Spy, there's something I just can't do. Like, I've read up on it and, theoretically, should know how to play the Spy. But I just can't do it, there's too much to think about and too much sneaking around and since there's usually better spies on my team I just never really get a chance to practice it.
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Yeah...2fort's probably the easiest place to be a spy. For me, at least.
Spy's a pretty hard class. I'm not the best as him, but I'd say I'm pretty good as spy. I can sneak into the enemy base and get a backstab but after that backstab it's pretty hard to stay alive for me...lol.
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Nah, I always get found out.
But, whatever, I'm way better at foiling Spies than I am at being one.
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Lols, same here I suppose. xD
What do you think the engie update will be like?
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Oh, I have no idea. I don't guess because, with Valve, you really can't guess. Especially since the new weapons have been getting way more unique over time.
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You've got a good point! Some fan ideas include a taser,another being a guard dog you can play as. I hope it's something great
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Oh yeah, I saw that site with all the Engie ideas. Can't get on the site right now, bandwidth limit was exceeded. But the first time I saw it, I thought it was real, you know, because it really looked it.
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Yeah, it did! I hope it inspires Valve! XP
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I think they need to pick him up as a designer or something.
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I think i could swap the soldiers with Heavys and Scouts.
You cant have enough Heavys and Scouts.
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as long as they are good, spys are priceless. deal wit it (and soldiers dont even got achievments, but they are ok.)
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The problem, though, is finding a good spy. Which are few and far-between. So, if you have a good spy, go ahead and use him; you probably don't need much more than that. Better than having three awful spies running around and not accomplishing anything.
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I was under the impression on the pc you CAN have a team of 20
And yes, this chart is true
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It might be possible, in all honesty, I usually play TF2 on the XBox 360 as opposed to the PC. Plus, I made this a while ago, and hadn't seen team sizes over 16.
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Ya I play Xbox as well. We are limited to teams of 8 each. I did some looking up after I made my comment and it seems I was correct. PC players can have larger teams.
Not to mention new content :<
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I know, it's so unfair.
Especially since I've played with the new content on PC, and it's quite a lot of fun.
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20 player team?
fuck off
6X6 is the true deal
2 scouts (or 1 scout 1 sniper) 2 soldiers 1 demoman 1medic
no stupid pyrofags heavyfags or spyfag or engy cowards
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YOU SIR!
are right.
what class you play?
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God yes. I'm sharing this with the rest of my clan who think it's funny to roll ALL SNIPERS!!! This last update made my life as a medic hell when I have twenty snipers calling for overheals while our ONE SOLDIER who's trying to push the cart gets wiped out by the other team who understands the meaning of 'team balance"
sigh...
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