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Published: 2011-08-03 18:53:04 +0000 UTC; Views: 15496; Favourites: 936; Downloads: 24
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If DeviantART didn't accept bases, there wouldn't be a folder for them.Stamp Base (c)
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Good critique. you'be balanced it out perfectly.
But it's deviant green. deviant art isn't grey.
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Thanks. You know what I mean though, right? Do you agree with my opinion?
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The stamp is very nicely done, but I can't really say I agree with the message.
Personally, I'm not going to sugarcoat it: I hate seeing bases. In all honesty I think they're a major crutch. Of course that's not to say that every user who uses bases is bad at art. Little known fact, there are also plenty of base-users here who use self-drawn, original bases.
I'm against it because I think that it really does hinder legitimate artistic development. When you're downloading a body to just plaster eyes, hair and clothes on (sometimes just clothes, as many already have faces) you aren't learning anything, and you aren't developing your style. If you use bases to practice, that's okay, but if you use them as your own legitimate "art form" then no offense, but you're not an artist. Tracing over a body that someone ELSE has already pre-drawn is the same thing as coloring in a printed coloring book and saying that you drew the picture.
Also, there is art theft sometimes involved in bases. Many artists here have discovered that their work was stolen to make bases. Someone stole the art, drew base-bodies over the image, and paraded them around as their own personal bases. Of course art theft unfortunately occurs elsewhere, but still, it's wrong everywhere.
Like I said, for practice, they're fine, but if all you do is draw over bases instead of developing your own style, all you're doing is holding yourself back and learning to draw hackneyed Lucky Star-esque frigures.
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What a relief to see a deviant who respects the administrators opinions on what is art. The use of the DeviantART.com grey as a background colour is a fantastic addition to this stamp. It makes the stamp a true homage to DeviantART. The animation is sleek and well timed and the type and font are clear and easily read. You did a very nice job at explaining the piece and keep a cool, calm head while you do. I find this piece a fabulous representation of the DeviantART spirit and vision. I find this to be a true job well done!
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Thank you ^^ That's really kind.
((I had actually forgot that I asked for critique on this lol))
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Bases are literally just for fun! <3Β No need to freak out over them!
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Unless it's adopts, using bases isn't art. Art is expressing yourself by CREATING something, not using something someone else used. And DeviantArt is made to share real art. The only reason they tolarate bases is because of adopts, and because people like you would annoy them so much
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Just let people have their fun, please.Β I use bases to have fun, it's not hurting anyone.
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Yeah lots of people say it isnt accepted but it is!
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Agree. And I'm sick of the "Practice makes perfect! Keep drawing no matter what and you'll improve!" bullshit.
I've been drawing since I was a kid, I'm 20 now and still no improvement in anatomy, hair, etc... Eye placement was the only thing I could tell that I improved on, and even that's only slightly. Several years to get drawing eyes down? I just accepted that I don't have the talent to draw and moved on to editing.Β
I'm still bitter about it, as it's gonna be hard to get a creative job without being able to even just sketch something simple. And while I'm good at writing, nobody seems to give a shit about reading anything anymore. And words aren't as pleasing to look at when you've finished as opposed to an image.
I'm stuck as of now.
And before people respond to me, you improve each time you draw and noticed big differences? That's because you have the talent. Your ability to make the connections of how to make lines form an image has been there since birth, just as much as someone who has a nice voice to sing well or the stamina be incredibly fast at sports. It's not as obvious but drawing is a TALENT.Β
Positivity and "believing you can do it" won't allow you to suddenly fly, and It won't help someone who isn't gifted in art either. I swear people are so shallow these days.
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Β sometimes people Β make the charater or their "oc" actually match with the base style, otherwise bases won't really helpful for people who try to learn how to draw the Β body.Β
Basically, bases are for noobs for can't even "try", you can't learn anything if you can't try. Besides most bases are people who traces copyrighted material or screenshots and the don't even give credit.
Ugh, Sorry, I absolutely disagree with this stamp.
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Mostly
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That's intresting
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Yep
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I always thought using bases isn't real art
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What I mean is I never thought about that myself,People keep telling me that using bases is not real art
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Oh... Well i just would use bases for fun or if i got a art block
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Nothing wrong with that
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ok good
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Yep
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Well said. I don't care what others say, Deviantart accepts bases, original and traced. It's fine so long as they're not just taking the paint bucket tool and putting awful colors together. Where i'm at, i can't post my drawings even if i want to (and they're not as good as i wish them to be) so i use bases. I do my best and i know that i'm using a model for my characters and scenes, but it's nothing more than a hobby. Besides, most if not some don't take DA seriously, some use for roleplaying, etc. So long as DA has no problems with the use of bases, others who differ need to quit being anal over it. Bases are not against DA's rules no matter how much it bothers them. If anti-base fans don't accept it, then why seek and/or comment negatively about it.
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I Agree (Your A Sensible, Cool, Awesome Person)
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a-are you real? A PERSON WHO ACCEPTS BASES!? YOU are awesome. Be my Senpai
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This is an excellent stamp. I completely agree with this, they help the less talented artists (Including myself) make something that looks nice (mostly) or for people who aren't good with proportions or anatomy they really help.Β
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They're fun to use and create, but you'd really get no where in anatomy if continuous use is done.
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I hate how people who use bases are treated like they have the plauge or something
has anyone ever thought about birth defects! brain injury!
no their biased assholes
I have a brain injury that cause me to lose control over my body
I can draw but not a lot it takes several days to get enough control back to draw again
I love this stamp
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I know some people have birth defects, doesn't give them an excuse to you bases. I feel people should draw there own art, not tracing over a base, Its just like recoloring to me. I understand you a base to practice poses, like people do with poses. If you going to use bases just to color over and then post on D.A. and clame as you own. Then its not art( well yours anyway). The only reason why you use base because you afraid of what other people think of your art work. Well I don't care if your art work is good or bad, along its your art work. I will accept bad over trace, recolor , and stolen art any day.
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I don't accept bases as art unless someone made the base without tracing it. Bases are the internet's version of a coloring book for children.Β
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I am sorry your a biased dick ^^
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how is she a "biased dick" it's not like shes lying, it's like a coloring book on dA. DEAL WITH IT.
You color in an uncolored lineart, same thing as a coloring book page.
You need some motherfucking tolerance, young lady.
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deviantArt also tolerates tracing. I don't have to agree with everything they accept. I love how people say "But editing this base took me 2 years, 3 months and 17 days!". You know what takes even more effort? Drawing the whole thing.
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"deviantArt also tolerates tracing. I don't have to agree with everything they accept."
Yeppp!
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Bases that are designed by artists themselves, i don't have a problem with. But bases that are traced from copyrighted screencaps from films and TV shows are NOT okay. Those kinds of bases are copyright theft. DeviantART just tolerate them because there are too many to police now, so unless Disney, Hasbro, Dreamworks, Sega or any other companies where people trace their characters actually complain about them; dA won't do anything about it. It doesn't mean dA SUPPORTS bases, it just means they tolerate them; because they're too lazy to do anything about it.
But the day will come when at least one of the big name companies will complain about the traced bases, and THEN who's in trouble? I'll give you a hint,Β NOT theΒ people who stay away from bases.
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You do realize people are allowed to make bases, right..? As long as you credit the company/person who made it originally, you should be fine.
Β Saying you can't make bases is like saying you're not allowed to draw fanart of a character.
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With that logic, does that mean you can trace anyone's art without their permission; as long as you say it isn't yours? That's pretty disrespectful if you ask me. There is also the copyright issue if the companies decide they're sick of people tracing their work all the time (sometimes for money!). Fan art is very different, it's often transformative and adds style, originality and effort...traced bases do not embody any of these qualities. Let's put it this way, if you were to send in some honest fan art of a Disney character to the Disney company, they'll most likely appreciate the love and honest effort the artist went through to do it. I can't imagine they react the same way when people just trace their work and hand them off like free samples to strangers.
I find it disrespectful to the hard working Disney artists behind every single frame of animation. It's better to just draw it yourself.
And no offense, but since you're a base user yourself, you're obviously really bias on this subject.
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Well, yeah, I guess I am kind of biased being a base user myself. But, I just use bases as a hobby. I can draw perfectly fine in real life, but I don't really post it here because I don't feel I need to. The drawing I make are personal to myself, pretty much. I still think that traced bases are okay, because they can help people to try and draw the character. As long as they don't rely on them too often, they should be fine.
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OK, but just imagine if someone traced your personal art and handed it off to strangers like it was nothing. You'd feel pretty shitty about it wouldn't you? People do this to copyrighted images all the time, they trace a screenshot and say stuff like: "This base is MINE. Don't steal this base because I traced it myself! You must credit me if you want to use it!" That's the problem I have with traced bases. Hard working artists put sometimes YEARS of blood sweat and tears into making an animated film or TV show. Just for people to come along, trace their work without permission, take most of the credit, and get praise and attention for it without doing any of the actual work. It's infuriating to me.
If you want to use traced bases for color practice or whatever, you can use them in private, but maybe don't post them online. DA is for your own personal art, that is its sole purpose. I don't see the point in uploading traced digital coloring pages as your work, because it technically isn't.
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Well, yes, I'd feel pretty shitty about that, but aren't these people (Like Disney animators and such) expecting other people to make stuff like that?
Also, sorry if I sound a bit stupid with my "arguments". sleep deprivation it it's finest
I also kinda agree that the base-related things I do should be kept to myself, but I post them anyway. Though, don't you think by now those companies would do something about these bases by now? I mean, people have been making traced bases for about 8 years? Maybe? I'd actually do something about it if I were those companies
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It's possible that either they don't know, or haven't gotten around to doing something about it yet. Just because it hasn't happened yet, that doesn't mean it won't. And personally, I don't think whether or not they complain should be the only reason not to do it. It comes down to respect in my opinion, tracing someone's work isn't respectful in any sense of the word. They worked hard to bring us such great animation, and they (and their work) should be respected and admired for that, not traced and whored out to random people. That's all I'm saying.
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