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Description Power-hungry UFO?

A UFO spotted by Lake Erie, NY in 2003. It appears to be firing a blue beam into the nuclear plant.
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MellyMaltesers [2012-05-27 22:46:29 +0000 UTC]

There could be many explanations for what you saw.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-27 23:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Like what?

(Also, I didn't take this.)

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-27 23:11:36 +0000 UTC]

Smudge on the camera; lighting from the sun etc.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-27 23:13:50 +0000 UTC]

A colorful moving smudge?

Also, lighting doesn't just float. It has to reflect off of a surface. Also, the Sun doesn't cause that type of lightshow.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-27 23:20:19 +0000 UTC]

The lighting would reflect off the lens of the camera, of course.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-27 23:25:26 +0000 UTC]

Okay, so how would sunlight reflect off the FRONT of the camera if the sun is BEHIND the cameraman?

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-27 23:28:41 +0000 UTC]

How do you know the camera man is in front of the sun? The sun could just be above the view of the camera.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-27 23:33:43 +0000 UTC]

Well then, how would a smudge move from the right, stop in the center, move up, drop a different colored thing, have the different colored thing move down into the nuclear plant, and then have the original object lower and move to the left until it goes off camera?


Also, any explanations for other UFOs?

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 00:27:42 +0000 UTC]

As for the first statement, I'm not sure what you mean by 'move from the right, stop in the centre, move up (etc.)' because what I see is an image, one that isn't moving. But, is I did see this video or whatever, I would STILL try to examine the situation, and look at other alternatives for this event. I would not immediately assume it's an alien.
As a constructive criticism, I would recommend doing as follows if you want people to believe you; when you receive a strange piece of phenomena, instead of jumping to aliens, try to disprove every single other explanation. Try not to be biased. When you do this, this means that the best possible explanation is your answer - aliens. This means that every alternative is false - please examine each and every one. This is the only way to convince people of something as bizarre as aliens.
Basically, please don't jump to aliens. I can tell your passionately interested in them, but the best way to convince other people that they exist is try to cancel out every alternative leaving aliens as the only explanation.

As for your second question; I'm afraid it's very vague. What do you mean by 'other UFOs'? I'm afraid I've never seen any and I haven't been shown very good evidence. There are strange events that could have been the because of aliens, but a good curious person doesn't jump to conclusions - I have to be shown excellent evidence to believe anything. This way, I am certain about things and can effectively argue about phenomena. I think you should assume this behaviour, especially when it comes to conspiracies and aliens.
You have to 100% certain of things in order to convince and effectively argue. Your arguments are all questions for example; not based on any scientific fact. It is not my burden to prove anything to you; I shouldn't have to answer any questions. YOU made a claim that you saw aliens. YOU have to prove that to me.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 00:33:13 +0000 UTC]

What I mean by "other UFOs" is the other photos I have uploaded.

Also, this isn't MY photo! I got it from ufocasebook.com!


Here's my argument: A multicolored object dropped a blue beam into a power plant. A camera smudge can't move.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 00:42:08 +0000 UTC]

No, a camera smudge can't move, however a camera smudge can extend from top to bottom (for example if an oily finger ran across the lens from top to bottom). This COULD POTENTIALLY (I'm not certain, here) be a trick of the light better still. The sun could reflect off this line of oil and make it appear to be a beam shooting at a power plant. This could be an alternative, can it not? This is what I mean when I say alternative. There are hundreds like it; none involving aliens.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 00:46:34 +0000 UTC]

It. Moved. Side. To. Side.

Also, the photographer said it wasn't a smudge. I'm fairly sure he'd know.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 01:05:21 +0000 UTC]

Well, how well do you know the photographer?

You see, this come back to my human behaviours argument. I want to make one thing particularly clear. Humans are extremely vulnerable to mistakes! Misinterpretations; mishearing; misprinting; but especially the mistake convincing themselves of things!
Suppose the photographer (again, I'm not certain, here - I do not know the photographer. When I say this I am not personally offending anyone when I say this because EVERYONE is capable of making this mistake) did leave a smudge on the camera. He did leave a smudge on the camera, but he ignored it because he wanted to believe that an alien attacked a power plant.
I don't know if this is the case or not, but my question is - do YOU know? This is evidence you have given me, and I am merely questioning it, which you (as the researcher) should do, too. Again, I'm not trying personally offend you or the photographer. SO many people do this - it's practically why conspiracies exist! They exaggerate experiences or make false evidence simply because they WANT to believe in something. I know this. I know people who do this.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 01:08:10 +0000 UTC]

This photo was analyzed and found to be legit by ufocasebook.com. They're experts with computers. Not conspiracy theorists. They only have real photos.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 01:13:12 +0000 UTC]

I don't want their evidence. I want yours. I'm still iffy on this ufocasebook.com fellas.

And out of curiosity, what in the world did the blue beams do to the power plant? Blow it up??? Like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ---

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 01:20:17 +0000 UTC]

I didn't take the photo.

Also, ufocasebook.com is trustworthy. Why don't you trust them?

Also, I heard the power plant stopped working, and had to be repaired afterwards.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 01:34:05 +0000 UTC]

Hrmmmmm... bizarre how the power plant stopped working, if you're certain that it did. That's actually very interesting; however again, there could be another explanation for this and the image taken could have been a coincidence! I'm just throwing that out there! I know, it would be a very strange one and it would be hard to believe, but I'm not saying that your wrong, I'm just saying it's POSSIBLE it's a coincidence.

I'm just iffy on the ufocasebook guys because sometimes people that are very dedicated to aliens could potentially be just a TAD biased - don't you think? Like imagine working so hard your whole like on something; if you ever found a flaw in your research you would ignore it because you wouldn't want your whole life's work to be for nothing. It's POSSIBLE that they could be biased. I don't personally know these guys I'm just spectating from experience and knowledge of how people work. It's simply possible. I just don't ant to put ally my eggs (trust) in one basket.

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 01:38:43 +0000 UTC]

Hey, if you call that a coincidence, maybe it's a coincidence cats meow! Maybe the meow is a sound caused by water vapor and cats open their mouths AT THE SAME TIME.

Also, UFOCasebook provides real evidence. Photos, videos, government documents released because of the FIA (Freedom of Information Act)

They also aren't biased. If they find a fake, they call it.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 01:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, for one thing, I know the meow comes from the cat because at the same time a cat's vocal chord vibrates and the sound comes from the direction of the cat ------ you know haha very funny

Okok ufocasebook.com has nice evidence, and they call out fakes that's nice.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuut want your evidence Because then you can argue better (unless you know every intricate detail off by heart of the power plant case) And STILL There just could still be other possibilities! That's all I'm saying!

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binarystep In reply to MellyMaltesers [2012-05-28 01:50:20 +0000 UTC]

What I'm saying is, it's possible for it to be a UFO. No one knows what it is now, so we'll have to wait and see.

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MellyMaltesers In reply to binarystep [2012-05-28 01:53:23 +0000 UTC]

Well, to assume its a UFO is a great assumption. A jump. Maybe in the mean time assume it's something more realistic but keep it on file unless you learn something about it For now, it's a jet.

It's nice to talk to you. I have to go, but have a nice...day/night (depends on where you live)

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