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This is a street view of the Red River Valley guys circa 1200 ad, with an emphasis on the peculiarly excellent agricultural capabilities of the Mississippi Valley people. Corn, Squash, and Beans. Squash is a shortened form of askuatasquash, which is northeastern American Indian, but the plants themselves don’t look to be anything that we can get in the store today. The old seeds produce something that looks like a cross between a pumpkin and a zucchini. It was exceedingly rare back then to find an agricultural civilization among the tribes of North America, most being hunter/gatherer style and nomadic. The Caddoan Mississippians grew crops and irrigated them too and lived in large cities of wood beehive-shaped houses and enormous earthen pyramids every bit as impressive as Chitchen Itza or La Venta. The culture’s rise and fall are mysterious, because they may have lacked a writing system, other archeologists see similarities to the Olmec, which in turn have a pictographic language system that relates to the Mayans. Much work still remains to be done in regards to these cultures and the ancient archaeological sites throughout America, there's a lot of unanswered questions. It’s a fascinating field of study. & you can find more about what happened to this culture in this super cool book Kado: Lost Treasure of the Kadohadacho. amzn.to/2NhwMN2 See that wasn’t even smooth. Have some boilerplate. “As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases”
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BornOnTheNinth [2022-06-24 21:23:53 +0000 UTC]
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barksdalenick1 [2021-07-12 17:44:36 +0000 UTC]
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ThesaurusRex84 In reply to barksdalenick1 [2021-11-24 14:55:30 +0000 UTC]
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Libra1010 [2019-11-12 22:22:03 +0000 UTC]
"Well brother, some days it's just good to be a farmer."
"Corny, but true."
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Kaedrys [2019-11-10 17:59:39 +0000 UTC]
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chateaugrief In reply to Kaedrys [2019-11-10 18:28:30 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! This was indeed a fun historical setting to research! So many unanswered questions about it all.
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Leanndra51 [2019-11-10 16:40:29 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the information and the link! I love this painting also. It is very detailed and amazing. Being part Cherokee, I have a real interest in Native American cultures.
Wonderful work!
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chateaugrief In reply to Leanndra51 [2019-11-10 18:26:30 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
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Wesbee [2019-11-10 06:04:30 +0000 UTC]
Good work. People forget that the Amerindians had copper. There was also meteoric iron coming in from Canada. When better materials, crops, draught animals, livestock, came along they adopted them becoming farmers.
Sadly in the 18th century governments taking land of Indians became a major political platform in Washington and some states. I'm in Australia, a nation founded 100 years later, yet the land grab came at exactly the same time here. Charles Darwin's teachings were cited in both cases.
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chateaugrief In reply to Wesbee [2019-11-10 18:26:14 +0000 UTC]
The 18th century is a long way away from the 12th century. Imagine the entire history of the United States, and now multiply that by two and a half. That's how far removed the problems that destroyed this civilization were from any relationship to the political moves you cite.
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chateaugrief In reply to SuperSabre-Tooth [2019-11-10 18:16:44 +0000 UTC]
Indeed they do, the beehive was a sacred shape to the tribe.
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lonermade [2019-11-09 20:24:36 +0000 UTC]
Nice painting, looks like a storm is on its way. Brings to mind a question, being in Mississippi valley do you think the flat top plateau mounds are solution to seasonal flooding?
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chateaugrief In reply to lonermade [2019-11-10 18:16:19 +0000 UTC]
You know that was the first thing I thought of but all the archaeologists I read seemed to think that the structures were purely ceremonial. I'm not sure how high the Mississippi river floods, does it get that apocalyptically high?
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lonermade In reply to chateaugrief [2019-11-10 20:23:45 +0000 UTC]
Mississippi is heavily leveed and when there is breach water can get 10+ feet deep. I suppose back then there weren't the levees so water did what it was supposed to and flood vast area of the plains inches or foot deep. Still maybe when the water rose they'd walk like an Egyptian to top of plateau, that be pretty ceremonial.
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Pyrites1 [2019-11-09 18:40:29 +0000 UTC]
Awesome! Love it.
If you ever consider doing another piece on the Mississippians, may I suggest Cahokia?
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chateaugrief In reply to Pyrites1 [2019-11-10 18:15:03 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! the piece is part of a series that I did for a historical novel on a slightly different group of the mississippians, so I didn't do one of Cahokia, but if I ever do one for fun, for sure the splendid Cahokia is high on the list!
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Cyanure666 [2019-11-09 18:36:31 +0000 UTC]
amazing drawing, must have been a hard one to do, just ghow much time does those pictures take? (just curious)
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chateaugrief In reply to Cyanure666 [2019-11-10 18:13:22 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Gosh I don't even remember how long this one took... it was a while ago, I think I was doing one a week along with the comic and the usual paintings & whatever else redos and things.
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charmedangel61 [2019-11-09 11:49:21 +0000 UTC]
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charmedangel61 In reply to chateaugrief [2019-11-09 18:26:22 +0000 UTC]
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Billy-B-Damn [2019-11-09 10:49:42 +0000 UTC]
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chateaugrief In reply to Billy-B-Damn [2019-11-09 18:24:29 +0000 UTC]
I know there was a great famine in Europe in 1315 to 1320 with a string of unusually cold and wet years that devastated crops and killed approximately twice the number of people that the Black Death subsequently killed. There was also something weird going on in 1258 when a huge number of volcanoes erupted and resulting famines killed 30% of London's population at the time. Whatever was going on back then seems to have been global in scope, and resulted in the abandoning of a lot of farmland and unsurprisingly for hungry, uprooted people, the Hundred Years War. I'm sure that a single-source identification of cause is far too simplistic, but the chain of events is really fascinating. The era seems to mark the end of the Medieval Warming Period and the onset of the Little Ice Age, and as people like Bill Gates try to develop schemes to block out solar radiation to combat warm temperatures, I think a little dose of what happens the last time things took a cold turn should be understood by the people who have to live with the power brokers' decisions.
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Billy-B-Damn In reply to chateaugrief [2019-11-09 21:41:13 +0000 UTC]
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MoonyMina [2019-11-09 07:47:19 +0000 UTC]
so gorgeously amazing and interesting!!! me looooooooooooooooooooooves!
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