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Find the new one, more completed hereSome people don't really understand my flash game :
[link]
So this draw is a begining of explain.
I hope that help ^^
This one can be partially complete this other :
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X,X i know about genes, but i still have no idea how the hell genes are worked out. I get the bass colour...and the bay parts a little...but after that my mind turns to mush.
How many genes does a horse have? Does it have to have parts of the f's, a's and c's ect.Β
If it's a bay colour, would it have to have Cr's and stuff, or not?
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I'd like to explain you everything, but I'm afraid to confused you more so instead I advise you to take a look at thisΒ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equine_cβ¦
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Like I say, this is not a completed guide to equine coat, but I talk about gray horses on my blog a while ago : [link]
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Genetics still very much confuse me, XD Hopefully, your game and this chart will teach me how they work.
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This is maybe the best reference I have found to coat genetics. The way you have structured it is understandable but detailed at the same time. Thank you so much, this has helped me so much!
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I'm glad you like it ^^ thank's
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Only one little correction: "cremollo" vs cremello
And the game is wonderful!!!
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Ah, you right, cremollo is the french words^^
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Ok, I didn't know it was french.
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actually, Seal Browns do not test as aa; it's a separate Agouti gene - At
βItβs really hard to tell the
difference between a sooty dark bay and
a seal brown.β
βWith AtAt or Ata, youβll get a brown.
At restricts black hair, but not as much
as a bay. Youβll see a little red showing
through. It is dominant over a, which is
the most recessive. But At is recessive to
the true bay, or A.
See: [link] and [link]
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I know, I just would talk about pangare gene, but I working on add At gene on my flash game.
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ah, ok. It just confused me to see pangare black listed as seal brown since that is not the color's name. Does it have an official name or is it just pangare black? Either way it might be a good idea to change the name so people who are using this to learn genetics don't get confused.
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For me, name of the coat don't count very much beacause they are many different hues, only the geneotype are allways the same. So when two horses you exactly the same, for me, the name must be the same, and I don't see any difference between pangare black and seal brown, so I call both the same, but maybe the official name are something like mealy black (but it's weird)
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For breeding and registering purposes though, it is very important to call the horse what it is, not what it looks like. For instance, may beginners call dun horses 'buckskins' but the cream gene is not present in these horses, it's the dun gene. Someone looking for breeding stock who wants the cream gene would be very disappointed if the 'buckskin' stallion they bred their mare to turned out to be a dun. The same thing can happen for any look-alike colors (such as champagnes and pearls listed differently). Maybe it's just me, but I'm very particular about calling a horse what it is, not just what it looks like.
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Dun and Buckskin is not the same thing at all, they don't know the same.
I think for breeding, only genotype is usefull, and in France (I'm french ^^) the name of coat suck, for exemple grullo, bay dun, buckskin, and buttermilk are all cald "isabelle", so I thnik only the genotype is important.
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I think see what you mean, in France then 'Seal Brown' means any horse that is mostly black with lighter soft areas? In my area of America at least, owners get very particular about what you call their horses.
I know that buckskin and dun are different genes, but some phenotypes can look vaguely similar. I know people who have called buckskins duns and was using this as an example of how to beginners who don't understand the different genetics (especially here where each genotype has its own name) calling a pangare black 'seal brown' could get very confusing.
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In France, seal brown don't exist, it's Noir pangare (pangare black).
For buckskin and dun, phenotype are very diffrent (stripe and lineback) not like with pangare black and seal brown.
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There are no horses with At in France? Or you just don't have a name for them? I'm so confused
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Don't have name, like for the half of equine coat
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ok, but when you are translating the names to English, shouldn't you use the correct English name? Despite what they're called in French?
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i was just wondering if a silver dapple could carry flaxen genes, and if so, if you bread with a bay who was also a carrier, is there a chance you would get a flaxen chesnut, or would it more likely be a silver bay, if either at all, these are proably trivial questions for you, but all of your work has gotten me very inspired with horse genetics
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Of course a Silver dapple can have flaxen (E- Z- f-)
If you cross it with a bay (E- A- f-) wou can have a chestnut flaxen (ee ff), but you're two horse must be Ee.
It's possible, but not probable.
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so could they also have a silver bay? which one would be more likley?
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If you know only the equine coat Bay (E- A-) and Silver Black (E- aa Z-), the result of the cross the most probable are Black, Bay, Silver Black, Silver bay and chestnut, but you can also have flaxen chestnut.
If you know the genotype of both horse (Ee A- ff or fF) and (Ee Z- ff or Ff) so flaxen chestnut become probable like the other coat.
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awesome, thank you
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Is the flash game down? I'm getting a doesn't exist error.
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No, actually it was the just the link which are broken. It's fixed but thank you for say me that ^^
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Kyah ! J'aime !!
la gΓ©nΓ©tique est assez compliquΓ©e je l'admet...
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Merci ^^
Et encore la ca va, j'ai reduit au gene les plus simple, sans combinaisons ^^
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On comprend tout !
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