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CyanSoul In reply to DEVIANT-BUNNY-541 [2009-09-22 18:25:13 +0000 UTC]

That's because the original doesn't have implants. I never stop getting shocked that so many people can't see the difference between natural breasts and fake breasts.

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-16 05:50:15 +0000 UTC]

Fake look way better anyways

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CyanSoul In reply to sk8er-guy123456 [2012-05-17 09:21:10 +0000 UTC]

... aaaand what's your point? This discussion wasn't about whether implants look better than real ones or not. It was whether these are implants or not, which they obviously are.

With that said, implants don't necessarily look better than real ones. Many women get implants that are too big compared to the rest of their body-built and body-mass, which only makes them look freakish and unproportional. If you want to get implants then at least get the right size; a size that is proportional with your body, and that doesn't make you look freakish and fake (like Pamela).

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-17 10:48:49 +0000 UTC]

Freakish and fake is objective. Thats just your taste bro

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CyanSoul In reply to sk8er-guy123456 [2012-05-17 14:18:48 +0000 UTC]

I think what you meant to say was "subjective". Subjective has to do with taste. Objective doesn't.

With that said, you KIND OF have a point, but only kind of. Yes, we all do have different taste. However, there is something called AVERAGE ("normal") taste, which is the taste that MOST people more or less agree on. Of course you always have exceptions. You will for example find some people who find extremely obese women sexualliy attractive, but those people are a minority because they diverge from what most people find beautiful and sexy.

So yes, I do imagine that some men might find extremely large implants, that are totaly disproportional to the woman's body, sexy. However, most people would find it to be too much, too fake and too freakish. Now here we come to the objective part. This has less to do with personal taste, and more to do with objectivety. The fact that some things are considered "fake-looking" and "freakish" hasn't something to do with personal taste. It is an objective fact. And this is because what appears as freakish and fake is what diverges from natural. The more something diverges from naturality and normality, the more freakish and fake-looking it is considered. So when you have unaturally round-shaped double d-cup breasts, while you have a slim body-built, it is only natural that most people would recognize it as "freakish" and "fake-looking". However, if an overweight woman has double d-cup breasts, it doesn't look freakish or fake, because her breasts are proportional to her body. She has big breasts because she has a big body as well.

Like I said: Implants can look great, but then you have to get implants that have a size that is proportional to your body. If you are a slim woman, and you get huge implants, then most people would find you freakish and fake-looking. It's simple physics.

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-17 19:46:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeah lol Subjective. It was a late night last night. Again though, what you term as proportional, I may term as 2 cup sizes too small. To you, 36DD may be cartoonish while to me 38GG are cartoonish. But to start venturing into the land of "my tastes are the vast majority's tastes" is silly and can not be backed up. It's like the guy who likes small breasts saying that C cup implants are cartoonish and that everyone agrees with him.

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CyanSoul In reply to sk8er-guy123456 [2012-05-18 08:20:38 +0000 UTC]

I repeat: There is no "for you, but for me", because what is considered "cartoonish" is what diverges from NATURE. The more things diverge from nature, the more cartoonish they look. It's simply logic and physics. All I am saying is that the size of the implants should be more or less proportional to the body of the woman. If you have a very slim woman has double-d implants, she WILL look fake and freakish.

The same goes for men. Most women (and men that prefer the company of men of course) are attracted to fit men that have a toned body. However, most of them are not attracted to freakish-looking bodybuilders that are on steroids, like this one: [link]

Most women are attracted to muscularity, but not to muscularity that goes too far. Not to muscularity that diverges that much from nature and simply looks fake and freakish. Steroids can help a man (or a woman for that matter) to get a body that would be impossible to get in a natural way by simply training. And since it looks that unatural, MOST PEOPLE would think: "Something's not right here...", and MOST PEOPLE wouldn't find it attractive. The same goes for implants that are over the top and completely disproportional compared to the body of the woman (like this one: [link] ). MOST PEOPLE would find it fake and freakish.

You can go on and pretend that EVERYTHING is subjective and relative, but you are sadly mistaken. I study philosophy, and it has been proven that complete relativism doesn't exist. Things can only be subjective and relative to some extend. And please stop twisting my words. I never said "EVERYONE agrees with me". I said MOST PEOPLE agree on what I am trying to explain to you, which is true. The MAJORITY would find the man and the woman from my links freakish and fake-looking. I'm not saying that some people don't find that attractive. There will always be those who diverge from the majority. Like I said: Some men even find extremely obese women sexually attractive, but I think that we both can agree on that the majority doesn't.

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-19 18:33:37 +0000 UTC]

TL;DR

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CyanSoul In reply to sk8er-guy123456 [2012-05-19 18:57:42 +0000 UTC]

Well... that says a lot about your brain capasity, my friend. No matter. I am done anyway. I have said what needed to be said. Have a nice life.

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-19 19:38:51 +0000 UTC]

I love how people need to see things your way. Otherwise its cartoonish and freakish. And you justify this by.... nature? Is a girl who dyes her hair red freakish because that cant be found in nature? Or more likely its freakish cuz you don't like it. I like what I like and you like something else and apparently that's not ok. You will never convince me of your point and I will never convince you so why don't you just go out and find what you like and let others gravitate to what they are attracted to without it having to be freakish.

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CyanSoul In reply to sk8er-guy123456 [2012-05-20 16:49:38 +0000 UTC]

Hah! You decided to read after all, eh? Wonder what made you change your mind...

First of all, I love the fact how you seem to know what I like and what I don't like. I won't go into details on what I like thought, because it is irrelevant to this discussion.

Anywaaay... Back to the debate: A girl who dyes her hair red isn't considered freakish by the majority. Red is a natural hair-colour, just like Brown, black and blonde. Most people wouldn't find you freakish if you have one of these four hair-colours. However, the majority will find a person with blue or green hair "freakish". I think that you are well aware of this fact, just like everyone else is, but you are just too stubborn and childish to admit it. When most people see a person with blue hair walking down the street amoungs "normal-looking" people, certain thoughts and feelings will pop up in their mind, and they probably will stare at that person. If blue and green hair wasn't considered "freakish" by the MAJORITY, then there would be a lot more people with blue and green hair! Why does the majority of women dye their hair in natural colours like red, brown, black and blonde in stead of fake-looking hair-colours like blue, green or pink? The answer is self-evident! So is it the fact that you simply aren't able to grasp this simple logic, or are you simply too stubborn to admit that you were wrong? Which one is it?

There IS something called the taste of the majority when it comes to hair-colour, and you know this very well. The same goes for the human body. People that like obese women, are in the MINORITY. Poeple who like super-skinny anorectic women, are in the MINORITY. People who like women that have had way too much bad plastic surgery and implants that are freakishly large compared to their body-mass and make them look fake, are also in the MINORITY. People who like men that have used too much steroids and accuired a freakishly muscular body, are in the MINORITY. I repeat again: You know this is true.

The only thing you have been doing in this debate is beating around the bush. I have provided a counter-argument fro EVERYTHING that you have said this far. You however, have barely provided valid counter-arguments against me. It was even a little too much for you to reply to my comment because it was too long. That is saying loads about your intelligence.

Last, but not least: You seem to be under the impression that I am trying to convince you that you should't like what you like. My dear sweet boy! How on earth did you get that idea? Of course you should like what you like. Even if I tried to convince you otherwise, which I don't, I wouldn't be able to. Everyone is allowed to like what they like. That's the way it should be. I was merely trying to make a point that there most definitely is something called the taste of the majority, and the taste of the majority is the taste of the majority for good reasons. Why you seem to be unable to grasp this simple fact is beyond me. Either way, I am done with you. I have proved my point, and I have no intentions on wasting anymore time on you. You will probably reply again, but I won't even bother to read your reply. Judging by the things you have said thus far, I can't imagine that your arguments will be any better in future replies. So I will delete your reply without even reading it. You will probably try to acuse me of being a coward (or some similar nonesense) for this, but if you do, then you will be a hypocrit. You are the one who didn't read my reply because it was too long for you, so now I am giving you the same treatment.

Have a nice life. Bye!

PS: This is for the artist: I apologize for this ridicolous debate. It wasn't my intention to offend you in any way, and I hope that you understand that what I am talking about in these comments, doesn't have anything to do with your girlfriend. I think that your girlfriends' costplay is one of the best Mystique costplays I have ever seen.

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sk8er-guy123456 In reply to CyanSoul [2012-05-21 03:14:24 +0000 UTC]

Its like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious.... You tell the pigeon its not going to convince you, and then it writes a 50% longer response lol

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DEVIANT-BUNNY-541 In reply to CyanSoul [2009-09-22 23:53:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I guess. But how would I know? I'm only 16, I haven't even felt real breasts so I wouldn't know.

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