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I just wanted to have fun with this one so I thought of two fast characters and put them up against each other, hope you'll like it.Related content
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Nice work both of them are awesome regardless of anyone who says who will win!
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great art work, this is actually one of the best Sonic vs Flash artwork I've ever seen
also Ok
1) People need to quit with the whole Sonic is called the fastest thing alive, so he must be faster stuff, because that doesn't prove anything
2) I will be stating who I think wins with both Game and Archie Sonic since you didn't state who you were using
but before I say anything on both Archie and game Sonic, I need to say to debunk a few things on Flash(who I like just as much as Sonic)
Fans : Flash outran instant travel
No he didn't, well he did, just not on his own speed, he used every bit of speed in him plus all the kinetic energy from Earth to outrun the Gambler in the instant travel vehicle (this was also the same feat as the radio feat, who even when after stealing enough to beat instant travel, he later on stole more to do the radio feat)
Flash outran Death :
ok yes he outran him, but let's not forget Flash kind of had a head start, and they both had the same acceleration, which it takes both time to reach light speed, or a speed to time travel, which if you get a head start of someone, and then that person runs after you, and you both have the same speed/acceleration, then person you're racing, can't get any further or closer then the distance you were at from the start, you get what I mean right, any ways during the first time he did it, this same thing happened, but when Flash reached his limit, Death did not reach his limit, and was speeding up, while Flash couldn't, and he was going to and would of caught Flash, if it wasn't for Death to start to vanish
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and so many people act like time lines are like miles when they aren't
same thing happens here, they reach their limits while Death hasn't comicsalliance.com/files/2011/…
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now we have the second time he did it, well I found this comic where Jay said they were going many thousands of times faster then sound, when racing with Death
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while yes, no certain number was given, but the end of thousands, end at 999,999, so even if it was at this number, they'd be at 759,999,240 mph, which is not even 2 times the speed of light
Fans : Flash can perceive things at an attosecond
grats on that, but that's perceiving speed, not running, fighting, or thinking speed, he even separates travel speed, perceiving speed, and thinking speed from each other when stating this, so while he can perceive that fast, he can't run, fight, or think that fast
Fans : Flash can run 13 trillion times the speed of light
This is also wrong, people use this page here for that theory : static.comicvine.com/uploads/o…
but the thing is, it was in fact stated what speed he was going, if you look down in the bottm right, it stated that he was at near light speed
fans : but that makes no sense, he went 70 miles per trip, while saving 532,000 people in .00001 microseconds, that must mean he's at 13 trillion times the speed of light, DC must of made a mistake
well if you wanna go into the whole it was a mistake debate, then I can ask how do you know the time they used wasn't a mistake
anyways this wasn't a mistake, DC goes by a different logic than you, and that's the logic of when getting close to the speed of light, time starts slowing down, and when at it, time stops, so the time he did all that, and the speed being near light speed, makes sense, and also this isn't a one time thing either, the same thing has been shown and even stated multiple times in DC comics, and not just with Flash, I'm not going to go get every single moment in DC Comic history where it shows and states when they reach light speed or near it and time slows down or stops, thus proving when they're nearing the speed of light, v=d/t becomes invalid for DC Characters, but I will show a few comics where it's state/shown
Flash shows and states when he's at light speed, time stops, not once
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not Twice
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but (so far that I know) 3 times
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The fastest we've gotten from Flash on his own speed is that he's surpassing light speed, which just means he's FTL
Round 1 : Game Sonic
So many haters or people who don't want to do their research always say Sonic's top speed is the speed of sound, when nowhere does it ever state that, heck ever since the first game Sonic was stated to be at supersonic speed
supersonic speed : Mach 1+(760+ mph) - Mach 5(3,800 mph)
and when Sonic Adventures came out we got a statement stating Sonic could run at hypersonic speed
hypersonic : Mach 5+(3,800+ mph) - Mach 10(7,600 mph)
and also in Sonic Adventures, Sonic was given the ability called the Light Speed Dash/Attack, which as stated by Tikal, got Sonic to light speed, proving it's not just a name like some haters or just some people say, and in the same game, it's shown you do not need rings to do the move, and in Unleashed(Wii), Shuffles, Battles, Heroes, and Generation, it's shown you don't need the shoes
and Omega states in Colors that he will soon exceed light speed
so at this point, I put Game Base Sonic at light speed
and Super Sonic surpasses light speed, so between game Super Sonic and Flash, I don't know who's faster
now with Archie Sonic, I no doubt have to give it to Archie Sonic
unlike with Flash, V=d/t can be used on Archie Sonic, as he's been going light speed for years, yet no once shown for time to slow down or stop
and there are so many feats I could use for Archie Sonic, but I think I'll only use these few feats
It was said in an official guide that gave you a sentence, and it said by the time you read this, Sonic would of visited every planet in his Universe(even the ones he doesn't know about), and be back in time for dinner
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and one of the planets Sonic crash landed on, after being blasted across the Universe, was 849,000 light years away
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849,000 light years = 1,383,326,640,000,000 miles
no we need to double that, because the guide said he could visit every planet in the universe, and be back, by the time you read that small sentence
1,383,326,640,000,000 x 2 = 2,766,653,280,000,000 miles
even though it won't take as long as 5 seconds, to read that small sentence, let's just use 5 seconds
2,766,653,280,000,000/5 = 553,330,656,000,000 miles/second
553,330,656,000,000 x60(miles/min)x60(mph) = 1,991,990,361,600,000,000 mph, which is 2,974,896,000 times the speed of light
Now it's time for Super Sonic, the 7 emeralds give Sonic a 1,000 times increase, now add the Master Emerald, which if we low ball the increase it would give Sonic, we'll get it to another 1,000 times increase(because The Master Emerald is as strong, if not stronger than the 7 Emeralds)
1,000 x 1,000 = 1,000,000
2,974,896,000 x 1,000,000 = 2,974,896,000,000,000 (over 2 Quadrillion) times the speed of light
but this is the fastest speed I can Caculate him to be at, that doesn't make it his max speed, plus let's remember I said it would not take you 5 seconds to read that small sentence
and let's remember Archie Super Sonic's speed is incalculable : media.animevice.com/uploads/0/…
and that he can run so fast he bends time and space,and warps reality
also when fighting Flash man when after being turns into a robot, Sonic was too fast to be stopped by Flash man's time stopper : vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/v…
Fans : but Flash has done that as well
yes but like it's stated in the comics, when Flash does it, it's a light speed feat, unlike Archie Sonic, I even showed one out many times where Flash going light speed let him fought Zoom, while he was stopping time
heck I'm pretty sure even if I did listen to the Flash fans and still used v=d/t on Flash(which like I said and proven with the comics, when he's nearing light speed, we can't), I still don't think he's beating Archie Sonic in a race
and again, I love both characters the same, and also again great are work
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FACT
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Sonic admitted in Sonic 186 that he can't save all of his friends because they're too far apart and that he can only save one of them
SONIC IS SLOWER THAN MACH 10
Iron Man would run circles around him
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Oh God, those kinds of situations are heart breaking
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No matter how ,u have i hate to admit it, flash is faster.
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A comic showed Sonic reversing time so that an intergalactic war between two alien races wouldn't occur. After time was reversed, a robot created by Eggman calculated Sonic's speed, and what it got blows away anything Flash has ever achieved: 1, followed by 60 SEXTILLION ZEROES! MILES PER ATTOSECOND, which is the fastest speed in fictional history. In one attosecond, light hasn't even traveled halfway across an ATOM! BTW, Sonic wasn't just reversing time on Mobius, but rather the ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE! This makes Sonic far beyond 20 trillion times faster than the speed of light. No other fictional character has achieved this kind of speed, not Superman, not Goku, and not even The Flash. I would provide you a link, but unfortunately I can't find one. What a coincidence, I know.
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Nope
Sonic admits that he can't save all of his friends because they're too far apart, Sonic isn't even mach 10 and Iron Man is faster,. Deal with it Sonic fanboys.
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Flash was fast enough to keep an entire multiverse going at normal speed, to the point where time itself killed him.
Flash stomps, Sonic is just your average speedy character, even Superman is faster.
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Yeah, he is. He can go through time and space by just walking, and Flash can run and keep up with an entire multiverse.
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Sure. Flash and Supes have done that without trying. Not to mention that they don't get tired, and their strength amplifies the faster they go. That doesn't happen with Sonic.
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Finally, I find another person who knows the truth.
*Sonic*
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Wouldn't these two be best friends/rivals or something.
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Neither would win since both of them have infinite speed.
But that aside this looks neat! ^_^
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Comic Sonic admits that his friends are spread too far apart and he can't save them all, Iron Man would smoke Sonic badly
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LOL.
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Sonic is faster than superman lol.
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LOL Sonic can only run at 80 meters per second
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OUCH
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Flash is slower than sound bitch.
Big the Cat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Zoom
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That's CW Flash and that's when he started, Sonic has been running for years and is only 80 meters per second, much slower than sound
How embarrassing
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lol and you're keep using gameplay mechanic's?
Fuck you're an idiot.
Without gameplay Even BIG THE FUCKING CAT IS 1000x FASTER THAN FLASH
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LMAO.
Sonic is faster.
go and do research on Sonic.
He has Infinite Speed.
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Composite Sonic can only travel at Mach 5. Composite Flash goes millions of times past the speed of light.
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Lol seriously?
Combosite Flash is billions times faster than light.
Composite Sonic can travel infinte times faster than light to beyond the speed itself
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Have it your ways with your lies, sonicunt.
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lol Sonic fans are the special ed class of the internet
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Sonic has already shown that he's slow as hell and can't even more 1% the speed of light
Flash has outran Death and outran the Big Bang
Even Iron Man is faster than Sonic is
I know more about Sonic than any of you fanboy fags do.
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"lol your vag is about to hurt, your meltdown is going to be hilarious
1.) ""Flash did not outrun the Big Bang, he said he felt it on him""
Actually he did, he just keeled over because he was in too much pain and he dissipated. Before that he was outrunning the Big Bang, where poor Sonic can't even go light speed
2.) ""while Flash couldn't, and he was going to and would of caught Flash, if it wasn't for Death to start to vanish""
Lol sure, Death would of caught him but the fact is he still outran death by reaching the end of the universe before Death did thus Death ceasing to exist, yet again a feat Sonic couldn't even dream of doing
So far we've seen 2 feats from Flash that Sonic couldn't even conceive, what else?
3.) ""Yet, here is Barry saying he can't even go hundreds of times faster than light (at 18:02)""
Scans from decades ago, different writers, different portrayals of the character. We've already seen tons of feats of Flash going thousands of times FTL
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A picosecond is 1 trillionth of a second, and within a picosecond, Flash was able to scan 500,000 people.
So you basically have Flash doing something 500,000 within 1 trillionth of a second and you're still so delusional that you think Sonic would even be comparable? What a dumbass
4.) ""Using logic/physics, no one should be at light speed or faster then it""
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See this? Flash and Kid Flash can fly via kinetic energy negating gravity
THIS is something Sonic cannot do, he has never nor will ever be able to run so fast that he'll literally run on air.
5.) ""Base Game Sonic is able to reach the speed of light kid, Sonic has the Light Speed Dash, which as shown in Sonic Adventure""
Time for your vag to start bleeding again
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OOOOooooo OUCH Game Theories clocks Game Sonic at 80 meters per second
Also, having an attack called "light speed dash" doesn't make one light speed, it's just the name of an attack
Also
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YIKES, Sonic in Sonic Colors couldn't even outrun a giant sphere of energy and the Wisp had to save him from getting killed....how embarrassing
6.) ""He's able to easily reach the speed of light, and past it in Base form""
And then you woke up after soiling your Sonic underoos
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Sonic #186 Mammoth Mogul mind controls Tails, Mina and Mighty and sends them all to their deaths, Sonic ADMITS that he can only save one of them as they're spread too far apart
OUCH
7.) ""It was said in an official guide that gave you a sentence, and it said by the time you read this, Sonic would of visited every planet in his Universe(even the ones he doesn't know about), and be back in time for dinner""
Looooooooool Holy crap this is too funny xD
Sonic Grams isn't an official guide dummy, it's just an editorial where the staff can interact and joke around with fans, which is exactly what this is, the fact that you think that he was being serious shows that you really are lacking in any substantial argument or evidence.
8.) "He's too fast to be stopped by a time stopper"
WRONG Lol
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Flash man had no issue stopping Sonic earlier and Sonic needed Big the Cat to save him. Sonic was able to negate it after he was robotized because Wily had devices in all of his Robot Masters that made them immune to Time Stopping. The Robotocized masters (Sonic and Co) were co developed by Wily. It had nothing to do with Sonic's speed.
That's the difference between us, I read the Sonic comics, you don't.
Don't worry tho, maybe in the next 20-30 years Sonic will finally reach Iron Man levels of speed
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Back for another glorious ass beating? Sure why not
1.) "I do read the comics, and I do better research then you kid"
Yeah, research so great that you used editorials as evidence and lied about them being official guides, then again you don't read the comics so it's no surprise
2.) "also here is Archie Sonic saying he's FTL"
Non canon short from an early Sonic comic. Early Sonic comics had tons of shorts like this at the end of each episode. Keep that vag bleeding
3.) "Um Kid he did not outrun it, you can see it past him, and nowhere did it show him outrunning it"
It's hilarious how you keep using the word "kid" even if that was the case, it's embarrassing that you're getting demolished in an argument by a so called "kid" LOL
He outran Death long enough to where he lured Death to the end of the universe and thus Death dissipated.
Meanwhile poor Sonic still can't reach mach 10
4.)"now we have the second time he did it, well I found this comic where Jay said they were going many thousands of times faster then sound, when racing with Death"
Different versions of Death aka the Black Racer, that's the New God personification of Death. Also, Jay was the one who was running thousands of times faster than sound as Jay is the oldest and slowest of the Flashes
As oppose to Sonic that can't even reach mach 10, how embarrassing
5.) "kid, Flash said he was going near light speed at that moment, not once, but twice "
Uh oh RETARD ALERT
LOOK at the scan
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This scan is different from the one where Flash saves those people from the explosion. DIFFERENT INSTANCE that you would know if you had LOOKED at the scan
Here it is again LOOK, This is a DIFFERENT instances than the city explosion feat
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Damn you are just tooooo stupid for words, then again most Sonic fans are stupid
6.) "1) Game Theory has been debunked soooooo many times, but I'll show you the best one/most popular Debunk"
Debunked by raging Sonic fanboys who can't accept facts LOL I saw tons of of you cry babies make videos and none of you made any valid points...OUCH how embarrassing, Sonic can only run at 80 meters per second, YIKES
7.) "Do your research XD, Tikal stated it's at light speed"
Only when there is a trail of rings
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"It allows the user to travel along a trail of Rings at light speed"
no rings means Sonic can't even outrun a giant sphere of energy
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ooooo ouch...that's gotta sting
8.) "Flash has shown multiple times to have trouble outrunning lasers"
Lasers that track and follow, meanwhile Sonic has trouble dodging crossbow bolts and tasers
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How embarrassing, even Spiderman can dodge those
9.) "No it's not XD, Sonic Grams are answers the Cast give to fans"
See the problem is, I've read these comics, you haven't and this comic was written before you were even born
Sonic Editors have always joked around with the fans when they sent in fan letters. This is a joke, nothing else
Also you said it was an official guide, you lied and you got caught, that's just sad, you know that I'm right so you have to fabricate
10.) 1) Show me where Wily states this
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From the manuals for the NES Mega Man Games
"Fearing that Mega Man would defeat Flash Man, Dr. Wily upgraded his robot master's to be immune to Flash Man's Time Stopper."
11.)
"2) Time Man states he was too fast, even when time was slowed down"
Yes, because he's immune to it, that's why Flash Man had no issue with Sonic when he wasn't a robot and Big the Cat had to save him
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YIKES
See, Flash is actually immune to time manipulation as he showed when Captain Atom slowed down time, Flash was unaffected by it
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Poor Sonic can't even dream of this as he can't even move at Mach 10
12.) "Did Sonic expect it, or was it a surprise, because if he didn't it makes sense why he was effected by it, Sonic as a Robot, paid attention to all the robots when fighting them, and heck Sonic even says Too slow, meaning this was his speed, not a resistance"
LOL Why would it matter? If he was too fast then it wouldn't matter if he expected it or not
Flash wasn't expecting Captain Atom to slow down time, it didn't affect him
Sonic is just slow as shit, period
But you wouldn't know this because you don't read the comics
RIP SpeedsterX123, Another Sonic fan crushed and humilated. Maybe Sonic vs Quicksilver would be a better fight
Oh who am I kidding, we all know that Quicksilver would murder Sonic easily
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Keep trolling flashfaggot
Sonic is infinte times faster than flash.
and i'll debunk you in every way.
and prove flash is billions times FTL Faggot
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I like how everyone seems to forget that in sonic cd, sonic is faster than time.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
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Flash moves at the speed of light. I've played some Sonic, he moves fast he doesn't move that fucking fast, plus sonic has to build up his speed while flash just runs super fast right away so yeah I'm going with Flash
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Sonic can just take off as well! Sonic can run at the speed of light!
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Sonic will win because he's the fastest thing alive!
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FAKE!!!
Sonic is the fastest thing alive!!!
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