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As promised, something besides Neshae and Jomeiah. XD So here's Raahn about to kick some ass.This is actually the first time I've ever drawn Raahn's venom. The spikes on his back ooze venom when they stick straight out like that, but I've just never drawn it before.
I don't care how boring the background looks I love how it turned out. THough I am kind of disappointed with the puddles. I still need practice there apparently... I'm requesting critique so any advice you have in that area feel free to give.
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Dreyfus2006 [2009-07-12 21:18:36 +0000 UTC]
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Ouch. That's all I can say.
No matter how nice the shading is on Raahn, that background really brings the picture's score down. And it isn't because it's a bad background; it is because of how it relates to Raahn. As it stands, there isn't a single point to that background. It doesn't do anything for the picture at all, and the picture would probably look better without it. As the artist, you say you don't care, but as the viewer, we say we do care. If you are going to give us a background and not even care what we think, then why give it to us at all? That's just being disrespectful. If you made a bad background, then at least show us that you hope we like it. Otherwise, why even show it to us in the first place?
First, the puddles. Look at all the rain, and look at the puddles. Why is there only a single drop of rain even showing a single remote sign of hitting the puddle? There should at least be remnants of the last drop. The puddles are at the moment really un-realistic, very last moment. They also lack any perspective at all. Look at Raahn's lower foot. It is at a heads-on view. Now look at the puddle directly under it. We have almost a top view of the puddle. It looks like the puddles and Raahn are from two separate pictures. I'll get back to that in a moment.
There is also nothing connecting the puddles to the rest of the background. They look like we're supposed to give them attention, which we aren't. Puddles aren't flat; they form when water collects in a depression in the earth. These puddles look more like rugs. I hate to be frank, and you know I wouldn't normally be so direct, but there's no other way to describe it. At least show that the rest of the ground is above them.
The puddles also serve to ruin your background. They are so flat-looking and all of the same perspective that they make the horizon look like the nearby edge of a cliff. Perhaps that's what you wanted. But at least to me, it looks more like that's supposed to be mountains in the distance.
Raahn is also serving to murder your background, which I think is sad, because without the puddles and Raahn the background would probably look fine. Back to his feet. If he's on a cliff, things aren't looking good; if he's in the flat lands, things are even worse. Both of his feet are at a front-on angle, even though one is far away from the other. They don't look like one's closer to us at all; it looks like Raahn's raising his right foot in preparation to stomp the ground, or he's walking towards us. Foot perspective is something even I need to work on; but if the foot is farther away it not only needs to be smaller, but considering the angle of the ground we should be seeing the tops of one if not both feet. Right now, Raahn's closer foot is small than his farther away one. That's just not right.
Fortunately, however, you pulled through on the rest of his body. The first thing I looked for was proper shading of the tail; making it shinier than the rest of his body. You did it just fine. The shading is seemless and pleasant to look at. The only thing that bothers me is the direction of the light; it seems that the light should be either above or behind him, and yet a lot of his body (and especially the axe) are lit up underneath instead of on top.
The biggest problem here, though, is that Raahn doesn't fit into the background at all; you could remove it completely and still have an okay picture (even better). You need to give him something that ties him (or, in art terms, unifies him) to the background. Perhaps a shadow on the ground, or some dirt pushed away by one of his feet. A reflection in the puddle. Just something.
The best part of the picture were the wings and tail (you know I'm a sucker for them tails), the worst part was a tie between the puddles and his feet. Neither of them agree with each other, nor the background, nor Raahn.
Originality holds strong thanks to the differences Raahn has from other Raymanians; but what you wanted to accomplish was brought down by the puddles, and the insult to your audience that was your attitude towards the background in its entirety virtually killed the impact. Instead of seeing a cool picture, I instead saw a somewhat interesting picture ruined by a rushed, last-minute attempt at a complex background that was then admittedly thrust at us whether we cared for it or not. Your audience isn't there just because of the characters; they are there because of the art.
Nothing to worry too much about, though; due to the separation between the picture's elements, you can easily edit this and improve the things bringing this picture to the floor. Many pictures aren't really editable by the time you get the critique; but this one is.
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(Smile)" /> Nice to see more of Raahn; problems aside, it was a great treat to see him again. Hope the critique wasn't too harsh, but dire times call for dire measures.
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HyperactiveMothMan In reply to Dreyfus2006 [2009-07-12 22:53:55 +0000 UTC]
Excuse me? Disrespectful? Insult? What the hell are you talking about?! I worked my ASS off on that background. It looks just the way I pictured it. It's misty and rainy for crying out loud. Honestly I don't care if the viewer likes everything about the picture or not because for one, not everyone will like it that's a fact of life, and for two I draw things the way I picture them. I'm not AIMING for approval from anyone. If you like it great, if not, I don't care. I'm not INSULTING anyone by creating a background YOU don't like. This isn't the first time you've griped at me because I "insulted" my viewers by not doing something to your standards. So quit griping, I do art different from you apparently, I just draw things the way I picture them. GET OVER IT.
Okay now that that rant is taken care of, the whole reason I even asked for critique, and I said this in the description, was so I might get some advice on how to draw the puddles better. I know the puddles suck. That whole point of your critique on that was more or less pointless because all you did was say something I already know. Last time you gave one of these critiques you at least gave some advice on how to do it better, not just, "this sucks, do it better".
Sorry if I sound a bit bitchy, but you accusing me of insulting my viewers just because you didn't like something kind of set me off. -_-
Glad you like the wings and tail.
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Dreyfus2006 In reply to HyperactiveMothMan [2009-07-13 12:38:00 +0000 UTC]
Wooooooah, slow down. I think you misunderstood me. I'm giving you friendly advice, not griping. o_O If you don't know what not to do, somebody has to tell you otherwise you'll continue to do something you shouldn't be. It's a custom that exists more outside the US than in it, but still, I didn't expect you to think I was just going on about how I didn't like your picture. I apologize if that's what you thought (certainly looks like that is what you thought; ouch, hits me right here).
Never once in the entire picture did I give my own personal opinion about what I personally liked and disliked, with the exception of the end with my "bests" and "worsts."
I think you just took the word "insult" a little too strongly. I meant it in the context such as, "Your viewers are smart; you don't want to insult them by restating everything you've written already. In your conclusion, you want to give some new information that will keep them interested. They have memory, they can remember what you've already done." Not insult as in, "Your viewers have feelings; you don't want to call them names and make them feel glum."
Try reading it again now that you know that. Sorry if I didn't explain that in the actual critique. This was in no way a "this sucks, do it better," critique; I even read it twice over to make sure that every paragraph gave helpful insight on the production of this picture.
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HyperactiveMothMan In reply to chaosgods [2009-07-09 19:37:17 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. And thanks for he fave.
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