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Terminator Infinity fan script (2017) Genre: Scifi, Action, Thriller. Total Runtime 2h 36min (Rated R for strong violence and gore, strong language, nudity and body horror)

PREMISE: John and Sarah Connor, with the help of T-800 managed to prevent Judgment Day and destroy Skynet, but unknowingly they created another horrifying future. Two time travelers arrive from 2029 to the year 1959. One is scientist Blythe Dyson, daughter of Miles Dyson, carrying with her technology that can save the future. Other is a new, highly advanced, unstoppable cyborg T-INFINITY, sent to hunt down Blythe. But that's only the tip of the iceburg, get ready for high-octane action ride and earth-shaking revelations. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves.

MAKING OF: I finally cracked it, the perfect sequel to T2 and it only took three years xD. This would retcon T3, Salvation and that god-awful Genisys. The problem with these sequels is that they missed entirely the point of T2, that Skynet is dead, that was the whole point of T2, they killed Skynet completely and entirely. So, let's please move on. Originally this movie was three movies long, plot was entirely bonkers, and I had problems to solve the time travel logic of it. I was a long time in the so called ”writer's block”, it was solved when I watched Movie Bob in Youtube and how to fix the terminator franchise, and he talked about Blythe Dyson, I was like, who the hell is Blythe Dyson. She was the girl in the special edition for three seconds and then mentioned in the theatrical cut of T2, blink and you miss her. I was like holy shit, she's the main character! Now 50% of my story works.

Yes, I realized that John Connor doesn't work as a main character anymore, but he can be in minor role, a background character, because his story arc is completed. Then we have to put fresh paint for everything James Cameron style, we reverse everything, I mean everything, we reverse the plot, we reverse the characters, we reverse themes, we reverse villains, we reverse destiny, we reverse technology. We create new heroes, new villains, new environment, new action. T-Infinity was always the main enemy, the most powerful terminator ever made from the comic book. It doesn't exactly look the same, I had to redesign it to fit in Dwayne Johnson's body and give him new powers. Themes are hate, fate, reconciliation and infinite cycle of violence, and T-Infinity is the embodiment of this infinite cycle of violence. And when you have T-I, you also need Dire Wolf, yes, terminator dog. These terminators need their first screen appearance badly.

Last obstacle was how to tell this story. I couldn't tell it in typical linear style, you wouldn't get action until the 40 minute mark, so how to get the pacing, so you get story and action equally short amounts, to keep the pacing fast and pressure up all the way to the end. Answer was nonlinear narrative that Christopher Nolan is fond of. We have see in all terminator movies, except in salvation, the beginning of the time loop, never the end, the result of the loop, now we would see beginning and end of the loop. The story moves on two tracks, different times and catch up middle of the story, but ending would be like Back To The Future 2 xD. Where Marty goes back to the first movie, but this we will return middle of the story. It's mind blowing, something I've never seen before. To sum up, we will have the horror of the first movie, action of the second movie, diamond hard cast and mind bending time travel with nonlinear storytelling.

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MontyCS [2022-09-26 05:25:37 +0000 UTC]

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Jarol-Tilap In reply to MontyCS [2022-09-26 14:02:06 +0000 UTC]

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Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-17 07:34:10 +0000 UTC]

This was the script I needed all my life. The last time my spine tingled like this was last year when I read a Star Trek book about the end of the universe. 

Little things like “easy money” and the AI FATE just had me grinning from ear to ear. This felt good to read. I haven’t felt this good in a damn long time. 

First off Blythe Dyson is the hero we need and deserve. As someone whose life was changed by the machine war, they are the perfect protagonist for this story. And in a 1950s setting I root even more for her as she fights racism, sexism and a god terminator . Her story is actually how I’d teach my kids about the evils of racism. Because life lessons should be METAL!!!!!!!!

Des Silberman, oh there’s another great character. I think he’s almost like a sympathetic Norman bates. He really is a great character as someone who doesn’t notice prejudice but also suffers from it. As a ptsd afflicted veteran, he reminds me a lot of very close friends who struggle with mental illness. It hits real close to home. 

And Senator Connor. Literally the most uplifting thing I’ve read in my life. The class cutting, juvie hall screw up of a kid made a difference. If that doesn’t bring a smile to your face then you must be a robot. 

Oh and the TI lives up to the hype. “Give me your flesh” that transformed it, made it into something otherworldly and even a little supernatural. It destroying an entire police force with its powers made it seem like some kind of angel of death. It felt like a demon from out of space, time and reason. 

Oh oh and the dire wolf was great. Best evil dog since the one in The Thing. 

The action set pieces are like back to the future if it was r rated and fucking balls deep in heavy metal. 

I think honestly this would have been the perfect movie 

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Jarol-Tilap In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-18 01:01:04 +0000 UTC]

Great! I also think this would have been the perfect movie, perfect sequel,
it expands on everything, introduces easily likable characters, new thrilling
action set-pieces and horrifying villains. I could with great confidence put
the ending of T2 at the beginning.

And you said the keyword: FEEL. I don't want to feel like a machine when I
watch a Terminator movie XD I want to feel something, that's the whole point
of the Terminator, the difference between us and the machines. What is a better
way than put a bunch of underdogs being chased by a psychotic machine. The point
being, if machines feel, they will feel more stronger, more advance than humans,
becoming more irrational and more dangerous. 

What fascinates me in the Terminator, how the machines have this perfect image of
us. Skynet was build against the Russians, but Skynet didn't see Russians, nations,
borders or races, it saw ALL as humans, every human pose a threat to it. That's so
fucking fascinating to me. So it was a no brainer to take the franchise to the 1950's
and swim in it xD And see how the past is more terrifying than the future, at least
it is for me. But the future isn't perfect and we have to work for it, think of the
Singularity as the peace treaty between man and machine.

Yeah, and this isn't the all happy and everything is great Back to the Future 50's,
this is the fucking dark and bleak 50's, there's something rotten under all that
pretty neon light and fancy cars xD Something rotten behind the "machines" wink, wink.

Blythe Dyson being the heroine was a no brainer. She lost her father because of humans,
John Connor lost his father because of the machines, so you totally understand what
motivates them and why they are at odds with each other and what connects them.
You send Blythe to the 50's and you see and FEEL the difference between the past
and future. This "blink and you miss her" character becomes the most important
character in the Terminator franchise, the "Rocky" of the future xD

John Connor being a senator is actually from the happy ending of T2. But it makes
sense, if he's not the leader of the future war, he's the future leader of the nation.

How to beat a EVIL AI, you just do a GOOD AI, that's how you defeat it. "There's no
FATE but what we MAKE for ourselves". Nice new layer to that.

If you know your Norse mythology, T-I and Dire Wolf makes perfect sense. And of course,
I didn't forget about the bible and New Testament. If John Connor is "Jesus", then Blythe
is an "Angel" and Goddard is "God". And if you wonder which story it is, John actually says
it out loud in one point "Resurrection", yes, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, JC, John
Connor The missile silo is the "Tomb" x) Boom! Drop the mic.  

Yeah, but thanks for the review. Feedback is priceless

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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to Jarol-Tilap [2017-10-21 00:07:49 +0000 UTC]

Looking back on the script I almost read it through a very pagan lens of philosophy. I saw the conflict of man and machine, then framed that against Blythe literally raising her machines and treating them like children who need to learn and grow. Then I saw The T-I and it's master ODIN as almost this war god figure. That side of things with the anti-technology rebels felt almost like the old tradition of a god as a powerful, tyranical figure. The war of man and machine suddenly felt like Chronos killing his father Ooranos only to be killed by his son Zeus and Zeus to almost be killed and the narrative end there because the Greeks couldn't kill their own god. On the flipside, there was the god as a mother and a father; the loving figure of Blythe, the Protector figure of Sarah Connor and the nurturing father of Miles Dyson. 

It almost felt like Blythe and FATE were what was needed to break the cycle of violence and parent being killed by child. 

Though as I've mentioned before, your grasp of biblical metaphors is unparalleled in anything I've ever seen. it's not just a question of giving someone the initials JC and killing them. Though going back on it, having T-I and the Dire wolf be like the wolves and giants of Ragnarok was a hell of a thing. Or at least that's how I read it. My interpretation could be flawed. 

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Jarol-Tilap In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-21 03:23:15 +0000 UTC]

Think of T-I as god of thunder, Thor, or more like his hammer, a tool. Dire Wolf is Fenrir, son of Loki.
Odin has two wolves as pets and two ravens. But then there's the story of Odin's eye, how he exchanged
one of his eyes to gain all the cosmic knowledge, so he can see everything that is happening and was
about to happen, all at the same time. Very similar to the evil AI ODIN. And Ragnarok is a loop, world
ends and is renewed, and all starts again until another Ragnarok. Infinite loop. And Blythe and FATE breaks it

But if you really want to get your mind to explode. Nobody knows the origin of the infinity symbol,
but there's another symbol that no one knows its origin, you know what? That's swastika. Da-da-daa!

You can thank Robocop for my biblical references When you realize that it's a story about Jesus,
holy shit, Robocop walks on water and he died for our sins and came back, that's subtle. Man of Steel
is the worse way to make a biblical reference, that movie doesn't know what subtlety is xD 

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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to Jarol-Tilap [2017-10-23 23:40:32 +0000 UTC]

I don't usually say my mind is blown with a straight face but my mind is blown. I think I like the idea of Ragnarok being the time paradox more than I liked my own interpretation of your script. Actually it's one of the most brilliant ideas I've seen in science fiction, including the likes of Phillip K Dick and Frank Herbert. It not only adresses the biggest fan plot concerns from the two movies but actually has a positive and uplifting message. it's like a twisted version of robert Jordan's Wheel of Time. 

I do love ancient symbols art history was my best subject in university so I revel in that kind of stuff. 

Oh Robocop, how do I love thee. If I were a Muslim Cleric from Sudan, I'd still be blown away by the Jesus references. And I honestly didn't know Verhoeven was referencing Jesus until years after I saw the film. It's just now I enjoy the film more for seeing the references. Plus he was pretty clear that Heinrich Himmler Inspired clarence Boddicker is the devil. 

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Jarol-Tilap In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-24 04:21:45 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It's actually more complicated and meta has meta, but that is the
simplest explanation I stand humble on the shoulder of giants. 

I really didn't like how starting from T3 the future was set and couldn't be changed.
That has severely concerning implications. That went against the rules of Terminator
and made everything that happened in T2 pointless, sorry, T-800, you sacrificed
yourself for nothing. What's the point of having of a time machine, if you can't
change anything?! You have a time machine, A TIME MACHINE, you can go
anywhere and anytime, explore anything! I just had to address that.

And it didn't help that James Cameron wasn't involved after T2. But there's hope.
It seems that now that Cameron has the rights back, he and Tim Miller are going
to make a sequel to T2, and those other movies happened in different timelines xD
Linda Hamilton returns as Sarah Connor. I still wish that Cameron would direct it.

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Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-06 22:24:53 +0000 UTC]

So this is the next work I'm starting on, and like starting A Song of Fire and Ice, I don't expect to be dissapointed  

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Jarol-Tilap In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2017-10-07 00:50:15 +0000 UTC]

Good! Think of it as sequel to T2 and soft reboot. I mean, we have had four movies with robots fighting each
other, I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of robots fighting each other. I think we need to go back
to the first movie, to the roots of the Terminator franchise, back to basic, because this point it will feel fresh.

Just one terminator hunting down one person, trying to change the future. Back to that horror, to that ball
breaking, blood gushing, unforgiving and relentless chase that ends in a mind blowing face off. And after
end credits you'll leave thinking all the subject matters and human condition.

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