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Edit:I should probably state my actual viewpoints regarding this issue. At first, this deviation was to take a stab at "Gay Pride" and in some ways, homosexuality as whole. As I've grown, I've realized that homosexuality isn't wrong, immoral, or disgusting. The love between two (or more) people that is pure is beautiful, regardless of gender(s). Anybody that sees it differently is blind.
However, I still take issue with "Gay Pride". Not because there's no "straight pride" (as I stupidly argued before), but because the flamboyance that "Gay Pride" essentially embodies. This is not to say I disagree with one's expressions of themselves or the fight for one's rights. I take issue with that it's done with complete disregard of decency in a lot of respects. Gay Pride parades go beyond celebrating one's identity and uniqueness. It makes the statement that you can be as uncensored as you want, and everybody should just accept it, if not embrace it. I feel that it's the government that should be forced to accept it. Private individuals shouldn't have to beyond supporting one's rights to be flamboyant.
Long story short, Gay Pride should be strictly about gaining equal rights for the LGBT community. It shouldn't extend into the flamboyant demand that everybody be accepted for who they are, regardless of how crude and tactless their actions may be. I'm not saying blend in, so you slip under the radar. Rather, don't go marching in a parade wearing assless chaps and nothing underneath them.
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Because these days, many people in Gay Pride parades have way too revealing clothing and suggestive dancing (especially nearby children), it's more like a circus than an actual parade and I get anxious in the huge groups.
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Yeah! We don't need that crap! We do respect PERSONAL life but when those.. "People" come to the streets almost naked it's nothin' "personal". So get this sh*t outta our streets, yeah!
People of Russia and the former Soviet Union are with you!
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I also think the gay pride is a bad idea, it just keep making the gap between gay and straight bigger, and for me it is the opposite of what gay people fight for: equality and all. I know that straight people can participate to the gay pride but it still called "gay pride" which doesn't sounds right to me.
The Gay Pride helps create a "gay community" whereas there shouldn't be any, everyone should be together and not separate into "communities". I have absolutelly nothing against gay people, it really makes no difference to me that someone is gay or straight, I don't care, whatever, so having a gay pride in my opinion reinforce the fact that there's a separation between those two worlds and that people who want equality and support the gay pride are kind of in a contradiction and it doesn't think move forward at all.
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Agreed. It's one thing to protest and fight injustices, but going beyond that does nothing but separate yourselves from others.
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I'm fluid, my partner is FtM, and I agree with you. The gay pride parade (I only went once) is not something I fully agree with, I agree with the meaning behind it, but the crazy stuff I saw (by the people in the crowd, not the parade itself) was just ridiculous. I had always heard it was family friendly, but there's no way I would have taken my children to this parade. Devils advocate though, I kind of feel like this means that America should also be forced to disband mardi gras in total too. It's nothing more than a drunken stupor where people get raped, fights happen for no reason, and girls as young as (lets not play stupid, so we'll go with) "17" are taught that exposing themselves, "can be as uncensored as you want, and everybody should just accept it, if not embrace it," hell, I'll add, "respect you for it."
I do think that what you're saying about pride could be shown in a bit less respectful way though, it would be like switching out the gay pride flag for the French flag and saying, "I'm not against all French people, just mimes." (yes I know the art of miming did not originate in France, but that too adds to my point). Either way, I'm glad that as another human you could admit that you've grown 
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Hmm. At first, I was really offended with this peice, but after reading your description, I'm not as pissed. I certainly understand what you mean. I love gay pride parades, but they can get rather obscene and waaaay over the top. Not all of them are like that, though. I don't think you should hate on the concept of gay pride, however. It is something that is great and it exists because it's never been openly accepted. Heterosexuality always has been. It's true though, no one should be able to be as disgusting and obscene as they'd like without consequence. Now that all that is out of the way, I still kind of find the picture upsetting. I mean c'mon. A guy pissing on a gay rights flag? That's really disrespectful. /:
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Dude. you are right. I'm gay and i agree with you.
I love going to gay pride.... but they do tend to be over the top and sensual.
We do need to think about the kids here.... It's one thing to be all cuddlly and maybe a quick kiss on the lips in public with another person of the same gender, but running around in speedos gyrating your hips.... if i wanted to see that, i'd go watch porn or go to a gay bar.
Sorry for ranting like this. It's kinda bad now that I think about it. We don't let the KKK march through town because it's "White Pride" but we let gays and lesbians be all provactive and innapropriate in public. Save it for the clubs.... not in public....
Thanks for helping me realize this.
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Yeah, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. While I may have switched my stance from being anti-Gay Marriage to being in full support, my stance on this issue remains the same. Some boundaries need to be set, and I don't think anybody gets a free pass in the name of "rights". I support the message... the method, not so much.
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I agree... here's something I wrote after realizing this.[link]
Again, Thank you so much for helping me realize this.
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No problem! I'm glad that people can see past their own emotions to reflect on the actual message.
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It's easy for heterosexuals to say things like this.
Trying to gain rights has nothing to do with pride.
Pride is being happy about who we are. Not being afraid to be flamboyant.
It's taking this thing that so many people find wrong and repulsive, yet is something that is inherent about us, unable to be changed, and throwing it back in the face of opposition.
Yes, getting equal rights is important, but pride is important too.
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How very uneducated.
"You don't see "Straight Pride" parades and "Straight Pride" flags, so why the fuck are there "Gay Pride" flags and parades?"
Gay Pride is a march done by LGBT people to pay tribute to the Stonewall Marches a few decades ago which saw the first major fight for gay rights.
If it wasn't for them people standing up and saying "enough is enough", I would probably be in a mental institute, prison or coffin right now.
People such as yourself have this misconception that it is a parade used to "flaunt our sexuality" in everyone's faces and scream "we're here and we're queer", when it isn't at all.
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It seems like you got a lot of different comments on this, and you seem like the kind of person that can accept another person's opinion as long as they don't sound like a moron; so this is just me throwing my two cents in. I personally disagree with message of your picture, but I'm not saying that you don't have a right to post it. I am a strong supporter of gay rights and gay pride, even though I, myself, am straight. I've had too many friends broken down by the sheep-like tenancies of society not to. Yes, some people do go a little overboard with the "omg gay pride!!1!" thing, but others, the only acceptance of their sexuality that they've had has been from other gays, so they truly have reason to be proud of it now that they've found others that understand.
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It seems like an odd way of being proud when you find others willing to accept you. "Yay, I'm not hated by this group. To celebrate, I'm going to walk in a flamboyant parade in my favorite pair of ass-less chaps."
I'm a supporter of Gay Rights, but Gay Pride is just as ridiculous as these tea parties have become. I am a free market economist, but when you go beyond the point and start making flamboyant statements and actions, then it just becomes more of a detriment to your cause than an asset.
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I can see your point, but I still believe in my opinion as well. To me the "ass-less chaps guy" is the embodiment of the "omg gay pride!!1!" persona which takes simply being proud of who you are to an entirely new level. I have gay friends who think all the parades and things are a little overboard but they still show their pride by wearing casual rainbow clothing (shirts, hair clips, shoes, etc.) or just having the flag on the wall in their room. They still have pride, just in a smaller and less . . . in-your-face kinda way.
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But that's exactly my point. I have a "Libertarian Party" sticker on the rear window of my car. There's nothing wrong with showing support/pride, but flamboyance takes it a step beyond.
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Ohmyfuckinggod! What the fuck is wrong with you?! Jesus Fucking Christ you are so powerful because you are straight. Well I am striaght too but you know what, we are accepted. They need those gay pride and rights parades and thing because they aren't accepted. This should be considered hate art. Christ you are so fucking closed minded and annowing. Stop letting a book written by a crack head tell you what to do.
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Hooray, another idiot who sees an image, automatically assume the intention/message and spouts off hatred toward said image. How about you actually read the comments, you fucking nitwit.
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It's still hate art wether you want to beleive it or not
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Wow, so you know my intent of the piece better than I do. How does that work?
I created the fucking thing. I know what my intent was. I know what my message is. It cannot be hate art if it is not used/intended as such. Just because YOU see it as "hate art" doesn't make it so.
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Yeah, people that are so prideful about being gay are kind of annoying, but it's okay to have a little pride.
And also, "Personally, I don't care if someone's gay or not, it's just the whole "gay pride" bullshit that pisses me off." I don't think you really made that clear in this picture.
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Even though I'm Bisexual, I'm not going to throw shit at you about "you need to understand this about our situation" or "you haven't the first clue about this", I respect your view on art. I enjoy the fact that such a simple work can spark such an uproar.... you have my respect... even if you don't want it or just plain don't care. I believe we all have a right to think like we wish, because it causes such a movement in the thought prosses of a human's basic ideal. Bravo.
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The intention of this piece has remained the same over the past 3 1/2 years, even though my stance on homosexuality has changed greatly. I certainly think a fight needs to be, well, fought for equal rights, but I still don't believe that Gay Pride is the way to go. Rallies and protests are one thing, but parades? Sure, it's something "unique", but I think it asks too much of the public. I shouldn't have to accept the sight of a bear in assless chaps. As I said above, I've changed my views drastically, and I'm now an adamant supporter of homosexual rights), but that imagery still haunts me.
I don't have to accept every part of a person's personality to support their individual rights, so I see no reason why I should tolerate queens in drag. Besides, the best way for everybody to be considered equal is to call to attention what we all have in common, not profess how "unique" a group is from another.
I know, your comment wasn't looking for an explanation of my views, but I thought that I somewhat owed it to you to try to better explain my point as you're being tolerant of what my views were/are. I, also, appreciate the fact that you enjoy the shock value of this piece. If only more people saw it as thought-provoking instead of hateful, which, if one was to take the time to read into my view, is clearly not the case.
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I fully agree. Some sights aren't the best for the public. I mean if it's a sticker of a raindow on someone's car or even a tee-shirt here-and-there it isn't that big of a deal, but when people go out in public practicly dry-humping an a float covered in leather... it shouldn't really be "public". there are kids sometime present there and we really don't need to damage young minds. I understand what you were trying to say fully, like you said, you didn't need to explain yourself. and it's cool that you've changed your view, always nice to hear that about people.... but I still enjoy the way you place your freedoms.
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No one said you couldn't have "Straight Pride".
There should be no contempt for or limit on the pride people have/choose to express for who they are.
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The problem with that is it's impossible for everybody to be "human" when people are so proud of what makes them different. Don't get me wrong, I NEVER would say it's wrong to be different or even be proud of it. It's to the point where it alienates others. Like, for instance, Obama's appointing of a Hispanic judge to the Supreme Court... everybody is focusing on her non-white (or black) heritage, or even the election of Obama. Far too many people are focused on "history being made" that it doesn't matter that both could be complete idiots (and, in the case of Obama, this is exactly the case... unless he's reading from a teleprompter).
For Gay Pride, such flamboyance of the parades alienates those of us that don't care about the culture when the issue is civil rights. I'm a huge supporter of Gay Rights, but I still protest the idea of a gay pride parade.
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I suppose your reasoning is quite sound, after a fashion. No one should resort to extremes.
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This is completely stupid !
If WE have the Gay Pride and all the rest, maybe it's because all around the world we are persecuted since a thousand years, don't you think so ?
We do not HANG people for being straight !
We do not REJECT them from society !
We do not FORBID you to love each other and to marry !
ALL we got to do is DEFEND our rights, because we haven't got them since the beginning like you do !
If we have to show how proud and strong we can be, it's only because some people manage everything against it !
People like you really make me sick.
~Love is never wrong.
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I agree with you completley, and I'm tired of all this "Gay pride" shit.
It's not even with just gays, I hate people walking around with "_____ pride" shirts.
Hmm, here's another point perhaps you may agree with me on?
I hate faggots. Not gays. Gays are people who will have gay sex in private and keep it that way. While faggots flaunt it and expect to be treated better than gods.
I'm a muslim and my religion is openly against it, and I totally agree with it, for various reasons.
But people nowadays are stupid sexual deviants who act completley clueless and dumbfounded.
God gave men penises, and woman vaginas, like two peices of a puzzle. You can be with whomever you want so long as it's the opposite gender, but that was never enough for anyone, so they wanted to fuck around with things and now it comes down to me not being able to use the rainbow anymore because gays stole the damn symbol.
Sorry for ranting, anywho, I totally agree with you and I hope you're ignoring all the haters commenting negativley on this picture.
Good freakin job
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not to start up more bad blood between me and someone else again buuut....you dont need to see straight pride us straights have every thing we can marry we are treated kindly we don't have to worry about what others think of us the gays however have nothing they cant get married they are treated like shit and blamed for so much shit that they had nothing to do with (blame for that rests mostly on the Christians) and everywhere they go they have to hope that no one will look at them and say something "ew thats grows omg what sinners damn pigs" it never ends for them straights have all the pride we need given to us so of cores the gays need to show theirs
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uhm, I uhm normally I just uhm, respect peoples opinions but, I if I may talk I found this to be rather offensive...
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I can understand where you're coming from, it must be annoying. But think about this way, straight/heterosexual people celebrate their hetreosexuality nearly every single day. You see them in the street holding hands, kissing etc. But homosexuals, do you see them doing things like that openly? Not really, most of the time they're hiding, acting like an every day person. But with Gay Pride, its an opportunity to be themselves for one day, to not hide what they do behind close doors.
The people in Gay Pride you normally see dressed up are those in the actual pride, on floats and dancing. But gays who attend are dressed like every day people. Its a special thing for them, you know?
But I do like the art for this, its well done
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No, and anybody who looks at it as one completely misses the point. I see why you say that, but no. It's not.
Besides, there are now states that recognize gay marriages performed outside of the state, and once California realizes that Prop 8 is wrong, so wedding rings will be even less discriminatory.
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I now seriously.
I personally highly dislike gay people and here is one of the reasons.
It's because they jump around and say "I'm gay look st me lololol"
I mean wtf, I don't go around yelling that I'm straight.
And besides, they complain about straights being aggressive toward them. Well, maybe if you'd stfu about your non-existant pride then maybe we'd back off.
Gays have absolutley shit nothing to be proud of.
Also, if they didn't make it so obvious to people or kept boasting about their damn "pride" then maybe we wouldn't bash them.
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You do realize your message completely contradicts the existence of the image, right?
You bitch about people being open about Gay Pride, Black Pride, etc,
but here, you're being no less obnoxious.
If you hate the concept of people being so expressive about their feelings, then you wouldn't have posted this in the first place.
Don't try to cover up your hypocrisy with some double-standard logic.
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Straight people, white people and similar majorities do not need flags and pride marches. It's the POCs, the LGBTs and so on who are discriminated against, forbidden to marry, kept from getting jobs, and attacked and killed because of their race or sexual orientation.
You say you don't care what race, creed, nationality or orientation a person is -- that's cool, that's awesome. But please understand that far too many people still do, and that if everyone just shut up with pride marches and accepted this discrimination, there would have been no women's movement, no Martin Luther King, no nothing. Only once people are treated equally will there be no more need for protests.
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There's a difference between a presence and a flamboyant statement. It's the flamboyant statement that I still have an issue with.
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How do you define a flamboyant statement, though? For instance, many people believe that a gay couple kissing in public is shoving their sexuality in people's faces -- and yet heterosexual couples do exactly the same thing without fear of recrimination.
If you are referring specifically to gay pride parades, then I would argue that these are an important and positive thing, because they support gay people who would otherwise feel isolated, and combat the unfortunately widespread attitude that homosexuality is something horrible that should be locked away behind closed doors.
Thanks for discussing this, by the way.
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