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See Also: Wings-AttachmentSome improvised anatomy for those people who draw these floating, detached wings or stick them off the ribcage.
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Ggggg thank you. People with wings are just about one of my biggest peeves, because everyone just like, sticks them on the shoulder without making any sort of accommodating anatomy. Ftw ftw ;^;
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oouuuuuuUUUU yYEEEEAAAAAHHHH I remember studying this. I got seriously confused when I first saw those bubbly wings floating over pplz bodies. First time I did I could only ask "What are they for?".
But if not for characters like Rayman, I would never have learned to accept the fantasy that people put behind the concept of what should be useless floating wings
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Another word for "accept" is "tolerate" it. We tolerate some parts of a product so that we can better enjoy the rest of it - we lower our standards.
Now, I'm all fine and good with other people lowering their standards to enjoy something - nothing wrong with that -- but it would be unreasonable to expect others to lower their standards so that they could better enjoy my work.
One of the reasons we should maintain high standards is that occasionally, others may heckle the things we've trained ourselves to tolerate. It's easy to forget that the work is enjoyable despite the faults we turn a blind eye towards. When someone brings attention to the gaps in logic, the fantasy comes crashing down rather unpleasantly.
I make a conscious effort to avoid that sort of liability, and develop logical ways to make these things "work".
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Good shit. 'tis true.
True fantasy is fiction which displays truth to our own reality.
"Tolerate" really is a better word for it, because true enough, though I "accept" that the bubbled wings were used, it doesn't mean that I'd ever begin depicting them that way.
Though I'm not saying this is what you are implying; I can't bring standards towards anything but my own abilities. When I see another person's work, I can only like it as much as my eyes enjoy looking at it. And though I enjoy drawing as one of my main hobbies, the only work I can truly critique, (and not tolerate) is my own work. I might enjoy a few pieces here and there in the end, but I can't help but pick at myself telling to do better next time.
Anyway, it might just be how my mind works, but I don't think I can ever truly critique the work of another person, if it is, in fact their own style. It just remains that if I like it, I like it, and if I don't, I don't.
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It's rare for someone to be without an opinion about something. Such opinions are shared at the critic's discretion -- or lack thereof! Cue the Drama!!!.
An important thing to remember while on the receiving end of negative criticism is that your audience will always perceive and understand what you drew, not what you intended!
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yeah, I got that, heh. Whether feedback be good or bad, I don't really mind. If I personally find that their statements help in anyway, I heed them. If not, I just simply pay it no mind, and know it's their personal opinion. No harm done.
But it's funny you mention intention... since that's is pretty much exactly what stops me from being able to critique anything.
Some people do ask what they're missing in their presentation, but that's just not something I feel is (usually) in my grasp to answer. I guess my complex simply states: I can't critique on the work of others when I'm still busy trying to understand the problems I see in my own work. That's just how my mind works, I guess.
Now, I see your work, and I only hope that I'll become as good in technique, because I can see the experience and fluidity in it. But as for style, I mean, I love it, but it's not mine, y'know? Thus a message is sent into the back of my head saying I can only give an opinion, and nothing more. If it were to help anyone's standpoint, it'd probably only be mine :\
Unless the person saw something in my art, that they wanted to add to their own style, and personally asked me about it, that'd be the only way I figure I'd help anyone with critique.
I know, my mind works kinda strange I guess. xP
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It's important to able to articulate your drawing process in words, especially if you're an artist.
If you do it right, words can carry absolute meanings and clarify vague concepts. A person can look at a sentence and judge its logic, and fix it if necessary.
However, when you write something down, you're committing to a chance to be wrong. That's why it's valuable - we don't feel inclined to judge thoughts, but we're willing to evaluate the logic behind words.
I carry many incorrect, distracting or unproven thoughts. I HAVE to write them down so I can critique and revise them from an outside perspective. It is a form of self-programming. The words used to express a thought can affect the thought itself (think George Orwell's: "1984").
I write down instructions, commands, directives, algorithms and decision-trees for myself to follow - an artist's "To-Do" list on steroids.
I don't consciously follow any particular "style". All I have is a process that I created to fulfil various directives that I revise when I discover something that my process handles inefficiently or ineffectively.
I take instinctive directives and procedures and codify them. My greatest breakthroughs occur when I can find the words to effectively express an instinct.
I discover new directives all the time, and that is what makes all the difference when I critique work, both mine and others'.
Sometimes I create exercises that involve dealing with every conceivable occurrence of a problem (like drawing simple 3D volumes.) This is analogous to the generation of "lookup tables " for any sort of oft-repeated skills.
It takes discipline and practise to subliminally follow your own directives - this is why I always seek logical reasoning behind every step that I follow. Because it won't become habit if I don't see the logic behind it.
On occasion, I encounter people who say that some things in an artistic or creative process can't be explained. They don't have the linguistic abilities necessary to articulate their logic, don't the capacity for logical or deductive reasoning to resolve the concept, lack the motivation to think it through, or lack the experience necessary to approach the problem from another angle. Fuck 'em.
They can go and draw big fuzzy spots on their mental map (and scrawl in crayon: "Heer be draguns!").
Heh, and you thought your mind worked strangely.
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"touche salesman"
Well, there's nothing to really say about that except that it's a good habit, on your part. I can't say I've heard of too many people striving for logic as you do.
Anyway, lord knows if I'll ever critique art 
Best of luck to your future endeavors.
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I think programmer is a pretty cool guy. eh programs art and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Hell yeah. Is there a bat wing one in the works any time soon?
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Don't you know that real wings are little spiral-like bubbles with feathers that float behind characters? What kind of crazy world are you living in?
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Ain't no world more screwed up than the one we're livin' in, mate!
Glad to be here.
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It's nice that you're focusing on the technical aspects here. there are plenty of wing tutorials floating around but they're mostly focused on the physical appearance etc. thanks!
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Well, the thing that nobody seems to want to tackle are the issues of how the wing actually attaches to the torso, or where the muscles that pull the wing toward or away from the center of the body attach, etc.
They usually just seem to fade at the junction between body and wing, or some people cop out entirely and just show them floating beside the torso... So a little bit of improvised anatomy felt called-for.
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