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Loupy59 — P-2B Study Side Plan View - Improved Performance

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Published: 2017-07-01 01:37:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 3454; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 27
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First off, I have to say every aircraft design I do referring to the Destroyermen saga is derived, at least in part, from an initial drawing by the author, Taylor Anderson.  Kudos to an inventive mind.   I then bend, fold, spindle & mutilate the drawings to my own depraved ends.

This updated design study is a result of the surprising air power displayed by the advanced aircraft of the League of Tripoli.  It was realized even the P-2B would not have sufficient performance to engage the Macchi Messerschmitt designs with confidence.

The P-2D “Lightning” study endeavors to extract more performance from the existing P-2 series, using current technology, with additional advances which do not require excessive resources or development time.  The D & E models currently carry four .50 caliber M-2 machine guns with two in each wing outboard of the tail boom.   The primary structural differences are fully enclosed engine cowlings & retractable tricycle landing gear for less drag.   The new design features:

    1.    In-line twin engine layout which provides for twice the horsepower with little increase in drag.  Additional advantages are engine redundancy, the ability to shut one down to increase cruise range & no adverse yaw induced if one engine is disabled.  The engines are equipped with the current manual inertial starting system.

    2.    Prototype mechanical variable pitch propeller system to increase performance in all flight regimes.  The system also provides for feathering the propeller if an engine is disabled or shut down in flight.   Blades have been enlarged to take advantage of the uprated engines.

    3.    Pair of small engine driven air pumps feeding compressed air bottles providing regulated pressurized air to the pilot through a mask.  This system allows operations above the usual physical restrictions imposed on the pilots due to lack of air pressure.  Emergency O2 bottle supplied if system is inoperable to enable pilots to descend to a lower altitude.

    4.    Enlarged enclosed canopy for the cockpit to reduce drag & pilot discomfort at high altitudes & air speeds.  Canopy also has rear view mirrors installed for projected air combat.  The new enlarged canopy improves the view aft for combat purposes.

    5.    Prototype electrically operated retractable tricycle landing gear with castoring nose gear & emergency manual backup.

    6.    Tail hook detent to prevent the hook rising when engaged by the arresting wires & tangling in the aft propeller.  (Reset by ground crew after carrier landing)

    7.    Water-methanol injection system for situations needing emergency power.

    8.    Fuel tanks installed in the tail booms to increase range.

    9.    Plywood construction to deal with increased airframe stresses.

    10.  Pair of air/oil heat exchangers using engine oil heat to provide cockpit heat at altitude.

Retrofit kits with features 2, 3, 4, 7 & 10 can be supplied to front line units to upgrade current P-1Cs to D model performance levels & can be integrated into the STD-1 air frame also.

The E model, when superchargers become available, will feature all the above except item #3, and has additionally:

  • Prototype superchargers to maintain performance at high altitudes.

  • Prototype supercharger bleed air systems providing pressurized air to the pilot through a mask.  This system allows operations above the usual physical restrictions imposed on the pilots due to lack of air pressure.  Emergency O2 bottle supplied if system is inoperable to enable pilots to descend to a lower altitude. 

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    Comments: 14

    Jimbowyrick1 [2021-12-05 00:25:35 +0000 UTC]

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    SilverbladeTE [2018-08-29 20:50:27 +0000 UTC]

    that is very good!

    hm, would it not be better to have a streamlined nose, those less drag, no front prop
    guns in nose, thus like P 38 get clean straight ahead shooting?
    and move cockpit forward, better view for pilot, more space for engine (larger engine?)
    perhaps 2 props at rear? I forget name of system, spin in opposite ways 

    "Pusher" prop would of course reduce damage form ground attack missions and AA which is a very good thing

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    Loupy59 In reply to SilverbladeTE [2018-08-29 23:09:45 +0000 UTC]

    True, they could remove the front engine & put the guns there, but I was looking to design a "maximum performance" model to give them some parity with the LOT's MacchiSchmidt fighters.  The engines they have are limited in horse power, so two in-line doubles their available power without the attendant drag & issues related to wing mounts.

    You're thinking of counter rotating props maybe?  They don't have a variable pitch prop yet & that's considerably easier to make than counter rotating props.  I do have a design for a variable pitch prop they could make fairly easily here, but we have to remember, they've only been over there for three years & these things take time.

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    SilverbladeTE In reply to Loupy59 [2018-09-20 21:57:31 +0000 UTC]

    got ya!

    yeah it will take time to design better engines, that is a LOT of work

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    ArmySGT [2018-06-03 18:50:30 +0000 UTC]

    The struts for the tail booms is the logical place to install cannons. Should they come across some 20mms from another transfer.

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    Loupy59 In reply to ArmySGT [2018-06-05 16:33:35 +0000 UTC]

    I did have them for the initial "A" model (different drawing), but deleted them to cut weight when they ran into the higher performance MacchiSchmidts over Zanzibar.

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    eldregeson [2018-01-25 21:12:51 +0000 UTC]

    looks kinda like a Fokker D.XXIII

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    Loupy59 In reply to eldregeson [2018-01-26 18:18:31 +0000 UTC]

    True, except with radials instead of in-line engines.  Never even knew about the little Fokker. 

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    123Cheezball [2017-09-16 20:53:14 +0000 UTC]

    This is your best design yet ..............genius .  

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    Loupy59 In reply to 123Cheezball [2017-09-18 15:32:59 +0000 UTC]

    Thanks, it was a Wile E. Coyote moment.

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    Hardcorev20 [2017-07-11 14:57:14 +0000 UTC]

    Looks hyper advanced. I like it. Would certainly be able to stomp almost everything that Kurokawa has.

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    Loupy59 In reply to Hardcorev20 [2017-07-11 16:18:54 +0000 UTC]

    Thanks!  It should be able to handle anything that got away from Zanzibar, but it's basically been reworked to try & have something in the future semi-competitive with what the LOT has.
    If the engines get uprated again to something worthwhile in the next book, or they develop a simple supercharger, it should enough performance that good tactics will make it effective against the LOT fighters.  Without the superchargers, their combat effectiveness would be limited to low & medium altitudes, due to loss of power at high altitudes.  Although they could climb to high altitudes, their maneuverability would be drastically reduced.  However they could use high altitudes to gain an advantage on aircraft at lower altitudes for diving attacks.

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    donald-johnson [2017-07-01 03:31:44 +0000 UTC]

    It seems to me that a duckted fan can get even more thrust.  Has this been considered yet

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    Loupy59 In reply to donald-johnson [2017-07-01 17:19:58 +0000 UTC]

    The problem with ducted fans are they need a lot of knowledge to get right or the thrust will actually go down.  Also the ducts need to be optimized for certain speeds.  Working the airflow on an in-line twin ducted fan would be a bitch.  Plus without high strength composites or aluminum, there would be a pretty large weight penalty from the ducts.

    Another way to add thrust to take full advantage of a powerful engine is to add blades to the prop.

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