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I present part 3 of many parts of a guide to equine genetics as I understand it and utilize it. Genetics are an ever changning and evolving knowledge, and here I have the most recent of my mine to share with all in a way that I hope is simple and easy to understand.Next is part 4: Interactions of modifiers. There I will combine full sets of genetic codes to illustrate how they might interact with each other.
The art Belongs to [link] JNFerrigno, who was oh so awesome enough to not only MAKE this totally fun free horse creator [link]
But was also gracious enough to let me use it for my project! Go check out her gallery, because this person is awesome!!
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Honestatis-Stables [2014-12-28 18:26:31 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome
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Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-01 21:56:22 +0000 UTC]
Another really good chart This is much more in depth, and you've got most of it on there. Nicely laid out, too and pretty easy to follow.
XD.
A couple of points: A bay with a dominant champagne gene is Amber champagne. Classic champagne is the result of the gene on black instead. And you've included the dapples with the silver gene, which is great, because you've got a good range of variation there but just for future reference, the silver gene has been known to cause hoof striping, not unlike appaloosas. You didn't mention it, but its a small thing that I only learned recently, so I wouldn't worry.
Great job. I like these
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-02 01:50:58 +0000 UTC]
Ah shoot! I totally messed that one up. thanks for pointing it out! I'll edit it asap.
And I didn't know you could get hoof striping with the silver gene! that is awesome. I'll add that, too! I have a feelin we're gonna be talking a lot! It's great having someone who is nutty for horse genetics like me!
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-02 02:01:59 +0000 UTC]
Welcome to the nut club! lol.
And no problem for the point-out. What you're doing is really great and the more accurate, the better a resource it can be for people all over DA You aren't far off and your understanding of loci is pretty darn good
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As for hoof striping with silver...check out this site:[link] There's a lot of good info, and some of the forums go into more detail
I started chatting with Miss Dudette, who is the owner and creator of the Timekin breed ([link] ). She was trying to work out gene classifications, so I ended up stepping on board to be her genetics person . I've now got my own DNA chart for the Timekin breed (obviously there are rl genes missing, and fantasy ones instead, because it is just for a unique breed, but I'm thinking I could make a full chart as reference, kinda like yours. The more the better
). In case you wanted to see my own insanity, the DNA chart is here - [link]
And sure, if you wanna talk genes, drop a line somewhere. I'm always learning .
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-03 03:13:46 +0000 UTC]
awesome. I love learning about this stuff. I'm a total nerd I guess.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-03 03:27:35 +0000 UTC]
Not a total nerd, lol. I'm far from academic or math inclined, but genetics just fascinates me. Mostly equine, as that's what I know, but I wouldn't say no to learning about dogs or livestock, for instance.
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-03 03:33:51 +0000 UTC]
If it neighs, has a man and tail, a four hooves...I love to learn about it. I also like cats, rats, and goats. Cows are cool too. I just like animals. which is why I could never be a vet. I'd cry all the time.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-03 03:40:38 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I stopped wanting to be a vet very young. I'd have the same problem.
And I've never even looked at other animal genetics! I learned the utmost basics about human genetics in school Biology. Things like brown eyes were dominant over blue, and how a child could inherit one or the other, but I didn't learn gene codes or anything. After that, I went into horses at college, so other animals didn't feature at all when I started to really learn about genetics.
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-03 03:42:19 +0000 UTC]
omg you're learning horses in college??? what course are you taking, and how will you be able to aply it in a job way? I'm waaayyy too jealous!
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-03 03:53:04 +0000 UTC]
Lol, I wouldn't be too jealous. It's a lot of work, nothing easy, and there's winters on a freezing yard.
I finished my GCSE's (I'm in the UK)and didn't do A levels. I went straight onto a BTEC National Diploma in horse management. It was two years, with a lot of modules (one of which was genetics) and every three weeks, I had to do yard duties. They started at 7:30 in the morning, Monday - Friday and we had to do one weekend day and ten days during holidays so that the student body ultimately cared for the college horses through the year, excluding summer.
I finished that and stayed on to do a foundation degree in equine performance and management. Much more theory based, and no more cold mornings on a dark yard, but harder (obviously it's a step up).
The diploma awarded points that were A level equivalent, and the degree can be included in a CV for any job. Although it's an equine course, there's transferable skills - essay and report writing, research design and study, project management etc - that are applicable to a variety of jobs away from the equine world.
That answer any of your questions?
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-03 21:25:02 +0000 UTC]
Nothing worth having is easy to get. All the equine schools are far away from me, and I can't afford to go to school anyways. Things in the US aren't going too well right now. Not for the common people, anyways. I would love to be able to go to a school to learn how to make money with horses. As it is I train where I can find people who can afford to pay. And those are far and few between. As it is going to college or university for many means to literally sign away their soul lol.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-03 21:37:37 +0000 UTC]
All true, unfortunately.
In all honesty, there is no real money with horses. It's a hard world; as I'm sure you're aware. Something I've always been told is 'To make a small fortune in the equine industry, you have to start with a large fortune'. More often than not, it's not the way to make money, though there's always exceptions.
I'm finishing the degree because it seems pointless to get this far and drop out, but I'm not going to make a living in the equine world. Don't get me wrong, I love horses, and I'd love to have my own, but I've decided I'll do better with owning a horse for fun, rather than profit.
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-03 21:44:51 +0000 UTC]
As someone who has been making a living off horses for a few years now, I totally agree with you. Having one (or two) for fun is much more smart than trying to make money. It's rare as it is to be succesful, and an almost 24 hour job. When horses become a job, being a softy has to go out the window. and worse...you have to deal with their owners as much as the horse. I all to often am forced to "fix" a horse for some dumb ass who is just going to cause the problem again as soon as they touch the poor animal.
Sadly, horses and livestock are what I know and what I'm good at. That and art. I can write pretty well I'm told. None of those are something you can make money with unless you get hit by the luck dragon. I think some of us are meant to live off of love for the rest of our lives, rather than any real monetary security.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-03 22:26:15 +0000 UTC]
I'd completely agree with you again. People who work with horses do it for the love of the animal and the life; it's not to get rich.
And, yes, unfortunately with horses come owners. Half of whom - as you seem to well know - are *clueless* oddly, I can deal with the clueless owners if they want to learn, but clueless who think they know it all are among the worst.
A girl I ride with is not the best rider, and she just doesn't listen when you give her advice, then complains and gives up when she can't get results. Its like trying to teach a wall sometimes. Sorry, rant over
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MagicWindsStables In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2011-12-04 01:28:15 +0000 UTC]
No worries, it's a rant I've heard, as well as made.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to MagicWindsStables [2011-12-04 01:32:25 +0000 UTC]
I have no doubt.
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Maeix2 [2011-11-26 21:35:03 +0000 UTC]
Considering how many variants there are, I really do need to start painting horses other than just standard chestnut abd bay
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