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I guess I'm Autumn Blaze in this picture. Kirrin as awesome.
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Well, they're the newest species to be introduced in the series' canon, so of course the fandom's gonna eat it up.
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Well, I'm not complaining. Censorship is way more irritating than kirins.
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Yeah, I like the way Kirin's got portrayed and all, but fandom tends to take things to extreme. It's funny how some stuff catches fire - like StarlightxTrixie, Kirins, Pearbutter - and become mega popular in fandom while other - Student Six for example - get rather modest attention.
Also great drawings on itself, it werks even without the meta context given Autumn Blaze's personality
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Yeah, that tends to happen a lot in the MLP fandom. Thanks for noting that.
And as an MLP fan, I'm rather different in that I don't take things in the show to extreme, and I often get tired of the pervasive
stuff that catches fire, for example the "Lyra sitting like a human" meme, which I admit, has gotten WAY too overused. In my headcanon, Lyra has no interest in humans whatsoever, and that meme is not even canon in the show.
Also, I like the background character Noteworthy, but he doesn't get that much attention by fans.
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Yeah, I can totally understand you. I grew to dislike most stuff that got their popularity out of hand and resulted in a flood of memes or art or anything really - like Derpy for example. It's kind of like listening to radio and having same few songs being played over and over again - at first you may be indifferent to it but after a while it sure gets irritating.
Noteworthy? I admit I had to google him, didn't rememeber the guy, didn't realized he even had a name. Yeah, some just don't enjoy same popularity as others.
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Glad you understand, and also that we're in the same boat. And while I do think Derpy is cute, the whole "Derpy loves muffins" wasn't really a thing in the show until the fandom made it an actual thing. After a while, I got so tired of that meme that I decided to make my own headcanon where Derpy doesn't like just muffins, but also other baked goods, like cookies and pastries.
And I don't know how the whole "Derpy's a mail carrier" thing got started. That one wasn't initially canon either, and in my headcanon, Derpy is not a mail carrier. In fact, the show staff has stated her cutie mark represents her talent of blowing bubbles, but a lot of fans seem to ignore or forget that.
Yeah, Noteworthy is pretty underrated in my book. I think he's just as great as the other popular background characters.
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I admit I can't really rate background ponies from best to worst or who's better than who...I never was fond of them in a first place, so their popularity and amount of fan fics and fanart was always a bit mind-boggling to me. I mean, hey, at least it motivates some people to be creative, which is always a good thing, at the same time, I prefer focusing on characters with clear and defined traits and see if they resonate with me or not. Of course some of those bg ponies got fleshed out a little bit more over time, but I don't think it either helped or hurted them in the grand scheme of things. They already had big traction as it was. That said, yeah fandom definetely have their mascots.
Also, I'm not 100% sure, it's only a guess but perhaps it begun with "Feeling Pinkie Keen" in season 2, where Derpy's shown with other ponies doing some delivery service -
perhaps that's what started that idea, but that's just me guessing.
As for your headcannon, hey I guess anything is a fair game when it comes to background ponies, most of their characteristics are still pretty much a uknown which leaves space for plenty of speculations, so hey, why not going against the trend.
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Same here. I mean, I see why many fans are intrigued by the background characters, but they never resonated with me either. For a while I wondered if there were other fans like me who weren't into the background pony idea, and glad to see others who feel the same way.
For me, I prefered to also focus on characters who were fleshed out, like the Mane 6 and also Shining Armor and Princess Cadance. I wanted to be an example how not every fan is into things that many parts of the fandom treat as canon. Ponies like Vinyl, Doctor Whooves, and Octavia just never drew my attention.
And yeah, since I feel differently as an MLP fan, I choose to be a trend-setter and not blindly follow the fan trends just because a lot of fans are into it. 
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Yeah, it's rare to find someone who isn't really that much into background ponies, isn't?
Oh, I absolutely get what you mean, I feel like MLP can offer a lot for people and everyone
can find character up to their liking. The weirder it is how some ideas are treated as cannon even
if they are 100% fandom-made. It's very understandable if one prefers to follow what he/she likes
rather than going with same tropes and memes copied over and over.
I admit I don't have such ambitions as being a trend-setter ^^' I just come up with ideas and if some
people like them, that's awesome but I would do various drawings regardless of how popular
characters are since it always motivates me more to focus on characters I like, I mean a lot depends
on idea rather than how popular given character is
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Perfect summarization there. I think a big reason why many fan ideas tend to get treated as canon is because of how many fans want to sort of feel like part of the show. Since the show has a positive and feel-good atmosphere, it's easy to see why some small details in the show like Derpy doing delivery service tend to become popular memes.
And an interesting thing is that many popular fan theories have actually been disproved by the show itself.
Like for example, many fans used to think, or still think, that Queen Chrysalis is the literal mother of her former changeling subjects, but that was proven incorrect in season 8 of the show, when we saw the changeling Ocellus, one of the students at the School of Friendship, have a regular mom and dad.
So yeah, basically the show staff have told us that many fan ideas that are or were believed to be canon are in fact not canon.
And I enjoyed learning about that. Also, when Starswirl the Bearded appeared in the season 7 finale, it disproved the theory that Discord was actually Starswirl.
I never believed the "Discord = Starswirl" theory myself, because the show gave us literally no supporting evidence for that. So it was interesting to see that I was right about Discord and Starswirl being entirely separate characters.
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Oh, that's very true, at the same time, since writers changed
every now and then, I wonder if even writers at the time of
introducing Chrysalis thought about that paticular aspect.
However I always liked when they tried to come up with some
answers on their own rather than relying on fandom ideas
to appease fans no matter how some of the answers may turn
out to be unpopular xD
Ah, I remember hearing the Discord/Starswill theory here and there,
but never gave much thought about it. Indeed there was no
evidence for that. Could it work? Yeah, but I feel like it would be
VERY weird to learn about it as late as, say, season 7 for example (when Starswill
finally appeared in person). This show already had instances of that.
Since FiM always had more of a a-story-per-episode format,
it always made it look bit weird when they finally tried to explain
certain aspects, as it always felt as trying to appease the fandom.
There are shows that have big arcs expanding over entire series and
require a lot of planning ahead, but it was clear that FiM never
was intended to be one like that. The funnier it is when people
refer to some episodes as "filler episodes". Which would be about 95%
of the each season since most of them tell standalone stories and only
few have some common thread that is started and ended within
certain season xD
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Long time since last reply, but yes, I am glad that the writers came up with their own ideas, because honestly I'm not one of those fans who demand "explanations" or want something to be canon, since the show has foremost been for kids, and isn't designed to always pander to adult audiences.
And indeed, I feel many fans don't realize that FiM had more of a story per episode format. And that writers don't always have to appease or pander to certain fans, especially if the pandering irritates other fans like me. XD
Besides, since the show staff didn't anticipate for FiM to have such a large following among older viewers, and since most of the seasons have standalone stories, I bet they get a kick out of debunking common fan theories as a way of saying "Sorry fans, but WE are in charge of writing the show". XD
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Hello again, yeah it's been a while, sorry that this time it was
me leaving you hanging, but as stuff happens, I wanted to
have enough some time to write a proper reply
Yeah, agree, if we get answers to some questions, I'm ok with
those but never felt like it's a must. Let them just write stories they
feel like writing. If along the way they explain a thing or two, that's
ok but it shouldn't really be the defining criteria. Same goes with what
notion when certain character reach their goal and some fans claim that
once given character reaches that goal - like say, RD becomes one of
the Wonderbolts - it means there no more stories to write for that character.
It's another notion that striked me as weird since the stories were always
relationship driven rather than about achieving life-goals per se, and
even if character achieves certain goal, it doesn't mean there's nothing to
tell. It's very easy to end here, sure but this would feel like lazy move.
Yeah, you tell me about pandering xD I don't think I will never stop
to hate "Slice of Life" xD
Honestly, I always liked that approach: Don't let the outside push
to steer the story instead of you just to appease the viewer.
Certain ideas and events should take place only if they make sense,
not just happen "by popular demand".
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Perfect way to summarize that! It's true that the series was always focused on friend relationships more than
about achieving any of character's said goals. It's ridiculous to think that there won't be any more stories to write for
one character if they reach their goal, just like how in real life your life doesn't end once you reach a huge goal. The writers managed to find a way to keep writing stories for the character aside from their life's goal, anyway.
And agreed- let the writers write what they feel like writing, not because of popular or outside demand.
Yeah, while I don't hate "Slice of Life", I admit I'm not really a fan of the episode because I'm not among the
large portions of fans who are obsessed with the background ponies. I just never saw what was so appealing about them.
On the other hand, I did like how that episode disproved the whole fan notion that Lyra is obsessed with humans, since she did not mention humans at all in the episode (the trend that I was getting sick of seeing all the time).
For me, a lot of MLP fans just blindly follow trends without thinking if it makes sense or not. XD
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Well I think people are conditioned to think that, since
most stories are written with trope of "achieving goal x"
and most of such stories end after such goal is achieved.
But since the show was mostly story-per-episode
with hints of continuity, it hardly applied. It's definetely
easier to end the story there and then, but applying
same logic to every kind of fiction is bit lazy
Wow, someone after my own heart. I remember when this
episode was announced. There was some big hype
around it in the fandom. And then I realized...I don't really
care. I really prefer stories with characters I
grew to know and like due to their characterisation and
personalities, so yeah I never shared affinity for BG ponies myself.
Yeah, Lyra's human obssession just wouldn't make sense.
The Bonbon/Lyra scene was actually one of the very few
moments I actually liked since it did include some characterisation,
and was pretty funny without being too over the top.
People like to follow trends in general, you can see that with memes
for example ( I swear some people lost ability to formulate sentences),
but I think it was with MLP when I noticed just to what absurdity it can go
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Hmm, that makes a lot of sense. I guess a lot of fans just didn't notice the "story-per-episode" format that
the series ran on.
Hee, hee, glad to see you feel the same way. I admit, one background pony that is fairly popular
and who I do like is Minuette, who was also nicknamed "Colgate" by fans. When she got a good characterization
in "Amending Fences" in season 5, she was just so cute and sweet that I immediately loved her. 
And yeah, true. And there's one character whom I feel needs MUCH more attention and love, and that is Princess Skystar from the 2017 MLP movie. She's just super adorable, playful, and loveable that I can't help but feel there isn't enough fanart for her.
You can check out some drawings I did of her on my art gallery.
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Well, like we discussed people desribing episodes as "filler episodes" whenever
a slice-of-life episode happened 
Oh yeah, I enjoyed Minuette's character too, it was much better work on background character than anything
100th episode did imho. It was probably best case of how to utilize background character
without fan-servicing too much if at all. Heck "Amending the Fences" is one of my favourite s5 episodes on itself too.
Princess Skystar, yeah she was nice, although yeah she defientely didn't resonated with people as strongly as say, Tempest did.
Which is a shame, she has this bubbly attitude but it wasn't annoying. Also just check your gallery, really nice! keep it up 
Hmm I must rewatch the movie sometime to remind it to myself.
I admit I watched it only once, although I enjoyed it
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