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Published: 2017-10-09 13:11:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 8943; Favourites: 116; Downloads: 0
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Description Even though Celine isn't Ally, they have similar character designs, and it's interesting to use them as a point of comparison between my skills in November 2003 and my skills in October 2017.

I was pretty proud of Ally when I first drew her.  I had to use a few photo references to get her pose right, and I spent huge amounts of time trying to get all that shading so it looked okay.  Ehheh, the things I didn't know I didn't know.

So what's changed in the almost exactly 14 years between these?  Quite a lot, obviously!  Some of the more notable differences:

  • I'm way better with proportions now:  Instead of looking like a girl attached to a hooved mastiff, Celine looks like a girl on an actual full-size horse.  Even Celine's human torso looks like it's better-sized for her.
  • The "anime influences" are pretty toned-down, at least to the point where I don't accidentally draw characters that are 8000% chibi-fied anymore.  Interestingly, when I first really started drawing again in the early 2000s, it was a screen capture of an anime eye (Téa from Yu-Gi-Oh, if you must ask) that really got me inspired to do so; now the eyes are scaled back almost to "realistic."
  • The shading is much better:  The highlights are softer, the shadows are sturdier, the lines are softer, and I do a lot more with a lot less.
  • For all their failings, those hands on the right had no references.  I was still using references for every hand in 2003.
  • Also, backgrounds!  I'm starting to paint those now.  And while the farm behind Celine is far from perfect, it's a long way from the simple "pink wash" behind Ally.
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snore23 [2024-03-19 03:22:36 +0000 UTC]

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phantom-inker In reply to snore23 [2024-03-19 05:15:25 +0000 UTC]

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snore23 In reply to phantom-inker [2024-03-21 00:27:14 +0000 UTC]

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phantom-inker In reply to snore23 [2024-03-21 01:33:41 +0000 UTC]

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GogglesPaisano [2017-10-21 18:55:29 +0000 UTC]

Great progress in your work.

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bluegill [2017-10-14 04:19:06 +0000 UTC]

neat pic again.

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Krigstein [2017-10-10 09:24:37 +0000 UTC]

A definate improvement.

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Chibi-Fisch [2017-10-10 00:12:30 +0000 UTC]

 

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Mavraster [2017-10-09 22:41:26 +0000 UTC]

Ha!

I remember that one thinking, 'this artist (you) deserves keeping an eye on'.

Toldya.  *sniff*

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phantom-inker In reply to Mavraster [2017-10-10 03:11:52 +0000 UTC]

Glad you think I'm worthy of at least one eye. Maybe in another 14 years I'll earn the second one

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MensjeDeZeemeermin In reply to phantom-inker [2017-10-10 06:19:20 +0000 UTC]

o_o

And now you can draw hands.

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phantom-inker In reply to MensjeDeZeemeermin [2017-10-10 12:32:47 +0000 UTC]

It took awhile to learn it, and I don't always get it right (Celine's left hand, out beside her, is pretty iffy still, I think), but yes, I can now draw hands, more-or-less.

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MensjeDeZeemeermin In reply to phantom-inker [2017-10-10 22:57:52 +0000 UTC]

You've become a unique and talented artist.

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EarlMcClaw [2017-10-09 21:34:56 +0000 UTC]

Do you prefer the (as I understand them) Roman opinion of a human-sized upright on a horse-sized horizontal (what I call trunk and barrel, respectively) or the Greek opinion of scaling one or both so the hips/shoulder mid-joints are size-matched?

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phantom-inker In reply to EarlMcClaw [2017-10-10 03:10:33 +0000 UTC]

I generally go for something similar to the Roman design: A normal size human torso on the body of a smallish (but still realistically-sized) horse. I used to prefer slightly smaller for the horse, but never "small," and as I look at that old drawing of Ally I wonder what I was thinking for her proportions. I drew Allya second time for the New Year's Eve picture in 2014, and by then, her proportions were much closer to those of Celine here. But a number of my earlier works have odd, much smaller equine halves like you see here.

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CentaurWorks [2017-10-09 17:48:45 +0000 UTC]

Wow! So much progression!

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jahnah [2017-10-09 17:21:24 +0000 UTC]

It's very nice seeing a person improve and this looks super nice.  Although maybe its just me and my love for strong centaurettes but I think the human torso actually looks a little (not a lot) too small for her horse body.  like her hips need to connect a little lower?  Or that her shoulders need to be a little wider?  Maybe its just me but typically due to how tough centaurs are depicted I don't think centaurettes would be on the skin and bones side of bodytypes.

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phantom-inker In reply to jahnah [2017-10-10 12:31:02 +0000 UTC]

I adjusted the position of her torso several times before I colored it; the proportions and position both look right to me.  She's not intended to be bulky, or muscly, nor is she skin-and-bones:  She's a well-proportioned female of her species.

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Kathalia [2017-10-09 16:01:03 +0000 UTC]

It is always cool to see how much an artist like yourself improves over the years.  Great job, you should be proud!

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phantom-inker In reply to Kathalia [2017-10-10 12:31:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, Kathalia!

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joshpoint0 [2017-10-09 13:15:00 +0000 UTC]

very nice :3

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