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My list is nearly complete!Commission for my sister GOOD GRIEF she's OBSESSED with this movie! XD The Thief and the Cobbler. I think we were watching this later
Featured Tack (cobbler) Princess Yum Yum, and Zig Zag (The freak in the back XD)
Its a cute movie
Art(c) *LindsayLatte
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28ear [2017-11-25 03:35:46 +0000 UTC]
I love this even though what happened to it is an absolute disgrace and a tragedy.
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28ear In reply to PhantomLatte [2017-11-25 22:18:06 +0000 UTC]
Wow I don't mean to be rude It's just I assumed if you did fanart of it I just thought you would know all about the movies behind the scenes history inclcuding the fact that it was in active production for 31 years. If you are interested I will tell you more about it's history later but right I can't because I am pressed for time. Warm regards 28ear.
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PhantomLatte In reply to 28ear [2017-11-26 01:40:34 +0000 UTC]
Oh no it’s okay! This was a commission lol I don’t know everything about the movie sadly :/ I did know the film took a long time to make but I don’t know much other than that I’m always interested in movies’ histories though. Warm regards to you as well
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28ear In reply to PhantomLatte [2017-11-28 05:00:09 +0000 UTC]
Thanks warm regards right back at you. Well I have have a pretty big knowledge of this films history and let me tell what ultimately happened to it near the end of the films production is a pretty long and sad however let's start at the beginning you see The Thief and the Cobbler" is considered a true masterpiece of animation and easily the most ambitious independent animated feature film ever conceived. A 28-year labor of love by three-time Oscar-winning animation legend Richard Williams ("Who Framed Roger Rabbit", "A Christmas Carol" (1971), "Return of the Pink Panther"), the film was intended to be his magnum opus; an animated epic for audiences of all ages to experience on a blockbuster scale. Showcasing some of the most intricate and complex animation ever attempted, Williams aspired to create the greatest animated film of all time, while preserving the legacy of traditional animation in the process. Williams' incredible work on "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" helped kickstart the Disney Renaissance and his book, "The Animator's Survival Kit", is considered the best book ever written on how to animate. The film was originally conceived as an animated adaptation of the tales of Mulla Nasrudin, but issues with rightsholders forced Williams to start over with his own ideas, though retaining a few elements (including the Thief character). Early work on "The Thief" was independently funded through commercials, films, and other work from the early 1960s into the late 1980s. Williams funneled millions out of his own pocket into the project, paying his animators to work on it in their spare time. During this time, he employed master animators Ken Harris (Chuck Jones' key animator on the "Roadrunner" films) and Art Babbitt ("Fantasia") to work with him on his masterpiece and apply their methods to his studio. He also hired actors including Vincent Price, Sir Anthony Quayle, Sara Crowe and Donald Pleasance to voice the film's characters. By the early 1980s, about twenty minutes of the film (including the famous "War Machine" sequence) was finished in color to show investors, but the film had yet to secure funds for full production. n 1988, Warner Bros. picked up "The Thief" after the success of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and full production began in 1989. Warner signed Williams to a negative pickup deal, which meant the studio hired a completion guarantor company to ensure they'd be given a finished film in case Williams was unable to deliver one. Williams hired a team of new, younger animators to work on the film and their work progressed for a rigorous three years, squaring away the majority of the film's runtime. By spring 1992, there was approximately 15 minutes of animation left to complete (which at Williams' rate would take "a tight six months" or longer), but the film had gone over budget and missed the 1991 deadline imposed by the studio.
To make matters worse, Disney was working on "Aladdin" (a film (very) closely inspired by "The Thief" featuring work by some ex-Williams animators) at the same time, and at a much faster pace. Williams was asked to storyboard the rest of the film and assemble a Workprint version to screen for the studio. On top of the penultimate reel of film being missing during the screening, the studio left wishing they had a less complex and more commercially viable film. Intimidated by "Aladdin", added to their lack of success with animated features (and their head of animation knowing little about the field), Warner ultimately lost faith in the film and withdrew from the project in May 1992. Control of the film was then given to the Completion Bond Company, who fired Williams from his own film he had dedicated nearly 30 years of his life to, only to finish it cheaply and quickly without his involvement. Now under the production of Fred Calvert (a low-budget Saturday-morning cartoon animator), the film (retitled "The Princess and the Cobbler") was given new animations, voice-overs, and poorly written songs on a tiny budget. The result bears virtually no resemblance to Williams' original vision and fans consider it unwatchable. The film was released in 1993 (albeit only in South Africa and Australia) and then bought by Disney's Miramax in 1995, only to be further butchered by Harvey Weinstein and released as "Arabian Knight." The end result made very little in theaters, was quickly forgotten and is currently only available on poorly-transferred Pan-and-Scan DVD (now under its original title, "The Thief and the Cobbler"), which at one time was packaged inside cereal boxes for free. During the time when a decent version of the film was unavailable, a Workprint version of Williams' original film surfaced through VHS copies, which circulated amongst collectors and animation enthusiasts before being uploaded to the internet in the 2000's. By repeatedly duplicating VHS copies and compressing VHS-transferred video files, the available version of the Workprint heavily deteriorated in quality, along with the film's beautiful colors and details. At the 2000 Annecy Film Festival, Williams screened a VHS copy of the Workprint for Roy E. Disney, who agreed to help restore and complete the film. Unfortunately, the scarcity of original pencil tests and completed animations plus legal issues with Miramax stalled the project. Disney's departure from the company in 2003 (and passing in 2009) led to the restoration (reportedly appointed to Don Hahn) being put on hold.
Since 2006, the film has acquired a cult following on the Internet through "The Recobbled Cut," an unofficial restoration by artist and filmmaker Garrett Gilchrist. This re-edit presents the most complete version of the film in the highest quality currently available, mirroring Williams' intentions as closely as possible. All kinds of rare footage was sourced (some of which was supplied by artists who had worked on the film), ranging from 35mm film reels to VHS Workprint footage and pencil/color tests. The most recent version, Mark IV, was released in 2013 and took over two years to complete, making it probably the most complex restoration of any film ever attempted. More than anything, the Recobbled Cut shows how close the film is to being complete (the film was about 75-80% complete when production ended, with most of the film's more complex and intricate scenes already completed). The film has also gained exposure through a documentary released in 2012 by filmmaker Kevin Schreck called "Persistence Of Vision", which tells the film's troubled story and has received considerable acclaim in the independent film scene.
Within the past few years, Richard Williams himself has been screening a restored 35mm duplicate print of the film's last Workprint version, struck on the day production ended. Billed as "The Thief and the Cobbler: A Moment In Time," William's copy of the Workprint was restored in association with the AMPAS and made its premiere in Los Angeles in December 2013. It has since been screened in London for the BFI in June 2014, at the Annecy Film Festival in June 2015, and at the MoMA in New York City in September 2016. After the BFI screening, he did a 50-minute Q&A. When one fan asked him if he was happy with the film existing as the unfinished masterpiece it is, he replied "...no, I would've liked to finish it." Another fan asked him why he doesn't finish the film now since it's practically complete and the story makes sense. In short, he said that it'd be difficult since they chopped up the negative as well as the original animation, plus he'd need a talented crew like he had back in the early 90s (then acknowledged that some of the original crew were in attendance). He then said the rest of the film would take a year to complete, but that it can't happen because "the rights [are] a nightmare" and "it's become a life with lawyers...no more lawyers!" sorry for saying so much but it's whole history is very long and complicated and I felt it was necessary to explain why what ultimately happend to this film is as I said before a disgrace and a travesty. Please respond to this comment as soon as you can warm regards 28ear.
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PhantomLatte In reply to 28ear [2017-12-03 09:35:14 +0000 UTC]
Warm regards right back and holyyyyyy CRAP. My mind is just...
honestly blown. I can't believe it went through so much! It can't be easy being an animator having to go through all this- my God...still a fantastic movie, it deserves so much more love
(I also apologize for a late response, work has been keeping me busy ;-; )
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28ear In reply to PhantomLatte [2017-12-03 16:14:28 +0000 UTC]
That okay I completely understand I'm just glad you replied at all and thanks for being so nice. Warm regards 28ear.
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PhantomLatte In reply to 28ear [2017-12-06 07:46:19 +0000 UTC]
Of course! I appreciate you telling me about the movie!~ Aww, thank you too :'')
Warm regards, PhantomLatte ♥
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28ear In reply to PhantomLatte [2017-12-06 14:10:14 +0000 UTC]
Any time just glad to be of service.
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tharsei [2012-07-22 23:50:26 +0000 UTC]
asdfjkl; I love that movie, too! The animation in the film is amazing; completely hand drawn.
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PhantomLatte In reply to tharsei [2012-07-25 00:39:27 +0000 UTC]
Its so cute! X3 and that is rather amazing Princess Yum Yum is my favorite <3
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tharsei In reply to PhantomLatte [2012-07-25 01:12:55 +0000 UTC]
It is~! Ah, I like her, Tack, the thief, Zigzag, and King Nod as for all the characters are concerned (heh, it's pretty much the whole main cast!).
One of the funniest parts was when the old lady the thief was trying to rob took him down. Full of pwnage right there.
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PhantomLatte In reply to tharsei [2012-07-25 01:56:59 +0000 UTC]
They're adorable! XD Well. Zig Zag kinda freaks me out
hah, I loved that part The duet with Tack & Yum Yum was rather adorable too
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tharsei In reply to PhantomLatte [2012-07-26 23:06:00 +0000 UTC]
I think the animation did the job there with ZigZag being so creepy~ I mean, his hands are one of those things that make you think..."How do you live with yourself?"
Which versions have you seen? I know the recobbled cut doesn't have that but I know that one of them does have singing--that scene was pretty nice~
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PhantomLatte In reply to tharsei [2012-07-27 06:44:58 +0000 UTC]
And they succeeded with him being so creepy Lol, his hands are just gross
TOO MANY RINGS ON THOSE FINGERS OF YOURS SIR xD
Probably the not recobbled cut xD Since the other had the duet
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tharsei In reply to PhantomLatte [2012-07-28 15:25:49 +0000 UTC]
So true! It's like he has one ring on every bone on his fingers!
Yeah, I've watched all three versions myself~ I wish Richard Williams (who made it all) finished the film before it was taken away from him. ;A; He said it would be the greatest animated film in history...if he got finished with it.
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PhantomLatte In reply to tharsei [2012-07-30 02:18:08 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much xD Actually, I think he had multiple rings on even one finger
Really? He didn't finish it? D: What? I bet it would have been to~! (Next to Lion King! ;D )
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tharsei In reply to PhantomLatte [2012-08-02 00:15:15 +0000 UTC]
Yes, he did!
Nope, he didn't. ;A; I think so, too~ I think it'd be even better. *le gasp*
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reneg661 [2012-07-20 07:43:30 +0000 UTC]
Reminds me of Aladdin a little, but its not. Awesome drawing Lindsay
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PhantomLatte In reply to reneg661 [2012-07-22 01:08:32 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!^^ Yeah, that movie is very similar to Aladdin
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reneg661 In reply to PhantomLatte [2012-07-22 02:35:09 +0000 UTC]
Your welcome and cool I guessed it right since its like The Arabian Knight
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megadaisy1 [2012-07-19 12:47:11 +0000 UTC]
OMG, THIS IS TOO EPIC!!!
You are just TOO amazing!!
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PhantomLatte In reply to megadaisy1 [2012-07-22 01:07:59 +0000 UTC]
Aww thanks so much sweetheart!
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xBooxBooxBear [2012-07-19 08:37:20 +0000 UTC]
Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So fucking adorable!!!!!!!! I wanna shriek so bad but your asleep so I can't Dx but omfg!!!!! Tack!!!!!!! Your style of Tack!!!!! I'm gonna die of how cute tack is!!!!! And this would be in all caps but that's too hard to do on a iPod xD love this!!!
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PhantomLatte In reply to xBooxBooxBear [2012-07-22 01:07:38 +0000 UTC]
LOL Oh my gosh <333333 YOUR VERY WELCOME SIS
He was a pleasure to draw!^^ Already want to watch it again
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lunalovelybear [2012-07-19 06:16:02 +0000 UTC]
awwww its sooo cute!!!! TACK IS SOO CUTE!! XDD great job on this Lindsay!!
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PhantomLatte In reply to lunalovelybear [2012-07-22 01:06:44 +0000 UTC]
Very much agreed he's adorable X3 Thank you very muchhh!
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LakituAl [2012-07-19 06:13:03 +0000 UTC]
This movie... sweet mercy, this movie!! It may not be a record when it comes to how much it delayed, but seriously, this movie is the definition of Development Hell. And to think, what could have been...
I gotta say, you nailed Tack and the Princess perfectly. They're so cute.
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PhantomLatte In reply to rayotennpera [2012-07-19 05:07:00 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! It was adorable
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Loki-Megabyte [2012-07-19 04:40:20 +0000 UTC]
Because its a freaking awesome masterpiece despite production delays!
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PhantomLatte In reply to Loki-Megabyte [2012-07-19 05:06:44 +0000 UTC]
I need to watch it again it was cute!<3
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