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Doctor:" Haha! No need to fret Peri, I was prepared for this very situation, as usual!"Peri: DOCTOOOOOOORRRR GET US DOOOOOOWWWWWN!
Doctor: Will you PLEASE stop squriming! Honestly...
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They blew up something or escaped somthing blowing up.
I think that the umbrella should make a comeback like this. XD
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PinkisPractical In reply to shaneoid77 [2011-12-20 19:22:38 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! His coat took forever, but it was fun. ^^
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sesshomaru1257957 [2011-12-20 18:03:15 +0000 UTC]
That is wonderful. I think that the people writing Doctor Who should listen to the fans sometimes. They know how to please the crowds the best.
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PinkisPractical In reply to sesshomaru1257957 [2011-12-20 19:22:58 +0000 UTC]
I would die happy if I ever got to see this happen in the show. XD
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sesshomaru1257957 In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-30 17:06:56 +0000 UTC]
Most definately! Anything insane to this extent. They made a sonic cane. I think an umbrella is soon to be in order.
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Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-20 03:32:24 +0000 UTC]
Haha, that is awesome! (laughs) You know, I saw an umbrella like that in the store the other day and I _so_ wanted to get it...but I already have a perfectly good umbrella. Heh. Anyway, you KNOW he would do something like this. And I also kinda feel sorry for Peri.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-20 04:16:43 +0000 UTC]
XD Thanks! I wish I had an umbrella like this. I think I'll get it with my christmas money.
LOL Peri and the Doctor. She annoys him. He'd respond. She replies. She whines. Rinse and repeat.
( unbeknownst to Peri, when she really starts panicing the old " your panicking while an inch from the ground gag" will be pulled, and the Doctor shall be most amused.
Poor peri, our bodacious and belitted botanist.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-20 07:58:26 +0000 UTC]
Haha! "Bodacious, belittled botanist". That's like, the best description for Peri _ever_. Yeah, she and Six...were match for each other. Unlike with say, Four and Leela--where he'd insult her as a "primitive savage" etc. all the time and (usually) she'd not get it and smile--Peri would give it RIGHT back to him. Which is what made them such a fun pair--or squared their annoyance factor, according to the majority it seems. Me, I fall on the "fun" side of the fence.
But anyway. Yeah.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-20 14:33:17 +0000 UTC]
Me too. The Fun side is better. XD I love watching six and Peri lash it out at the beginning of their episodes.
One funny moment was in the twin dilemma, after the Doctor changes into his exploding rainbow factory coat ( I saw him in that and before I even saw an episode he was in my top five doctors)where she calls his outfit "yuck" and then when SHE gets into a new outfit, and bounds out expecting praise like the fifth doctor would have done, he smirks and says " Yuuuck."
Plus, him having such a hard time to stabilize was very interesting, b/c despite that he was still a genius and helped save everybody.
( my goodness I could ramble about him all day. XD Him and Matt SMith are tied for my favorite. Matt Smith is my first doctor, I'm a very new fan of the show.)
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-21 02:44:12 +0000 UTC]
Heh. Believe it or not, I haven't properly met Matt Smith yet (I started watching on the new show, then backtracked to the beginning of the old as soon as I realised I _could_, and was then determined to do the WHOLE thing. In order. I'm up to Ten's last season now, but what with all the Sarah Jane and Torchwood and specials, it'll still be a while before I meet Eleven!) but yeah, Six is one of my favourites. He's like, grumpy but you can still he's a _good person_ underneath it--just kinda unpleasant, not actually like, DARK. (Not counting his regeneration trauma...)
Not to mention all the stuff about how poor Colin Baker happened to step into the show at exactly the wrong time...Six had to deal with _such_ odds--from both sci-fi monsters and villians and real-life problems with the show!--that he kind of had to fight his way up as the underdog _the entire time_. And yet, he still managed to be a pretty bloody brilliant Doctor in his own way, anyway.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-21 03:38:01 +0000 UTC]
Brillantly put! I'm watching the whole thing at random based on which doctor takes my fancy. After I finish all the recent ones with Matt Smith/ I figured since I heard that six was the "worst" ( which I know now to be absolute rubbish) that I should test how much I really liked this show by watching him.
Man, you are going to LOVE 11...he's just too funny. Most people think of him as the heir to the second doctor.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-22 23:56:32 +0000 UTC]
Awww, thanks! Yeah, I'll do that skip-around-and-watch-whatever-era-I'm-in-the-mood-for thing as well, someday...but I gotta finish getting through everything in proper, just once, first! (Well, I don't HAVE to. But now that I've come this close...)
With Eleven, it's not so much him I'm worried about liking as...the writing. I've heard certain Things about certain Scenes in season 5, and...it sounds like _exactly_ THE THING that pisses me most the phrack off, when it comes to New Who. So I'm waiting until I get there and find out how bad it really is in context...
I'd say what it is but, that would get into angry argument territory and I don't wanna make the mood unpleasant.
On a lighter note, my _favourite_ Doctor is actually Three. Him, the Brig, Benton, Yates, the original Master, Liz and Jo and some of THE best writing the series has ever had make the early-'70s era of Who just plain awesome.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-23 03:06:29 +0000 UTC]
Is it the melodramatic scenes or confusing plots? XD Don't worry ...there isn't too much drama, the plots aren't messy, but can , admittedly, be confusing. But overall I think it's enjoyable.
MY GOODNESS. I love three. I can't decide who's my favorite, I think I just love the Doctor, all of him! XD
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-23 04:06:44 +0000 UTC]
EEerr...it's more the Mary Sues (Rose, Reinette, etc.) in _the actual canon show_ instead of bad fanfics, where they belong...and the Companions falling in LUV with the Doctor...and worst of all, _him falling in love BACK_. People. That is the stuff of FANFICS. Leave it on OUR side of the screen, and just write proper Who adventures!
...please?
And...there we go with the yelling I said I wouldn't do. It's also, with Davies, the WORSHIPPING the Doctor's WONDERFULNESS, he's so _perfect_, he's the Lonely Angel (seriously, when did this turn into Twilight?!) and basically treating the audience like morons...with Moffat, it's his Special Snowflakes and really _direct_ "romantic" stuff, including, well...he actually wrote the line "Life is long and you are hot" from a _total stranger_ WORKING as a pick-up line. Instead of causing what it _would_ cause in real life: Namely, RESTRAINING ORDERS!
Davies has the horrible "I love you!" whisper! glance! almost touch! violins...! and Moffat has...the above plus Amy _man-raping the Doctor_ (I saw this bit out of context in a funny review somewhere, and I have no idea how bad it actually is in the episode--PLEASE tell me she was posessed, hypnotised, alien-sex-spored or a clone/hologram/android/dream. Pleasepleaseplease?) so I have very little hope that seasons 5 and 6 will be free of the things that bother ME the most.
The show _could_ possibly be improved by putting, say, Gareth Roberts (main writer of the Sarah Jane Adventures, which I LOVE) in charge and perhaps hiring an actual (gasp!) older, _un_attractive actor for hte Doctor and letting the audience figure out for themselves that he's still awesome anyway...but I doubt that'll happen. The god-damned Mary Sue, violins, angels, perfect, LOVE in your FACE!! approach just...makes too much money.
Sigh.
Basically I want a Who back that's for everybody, not just giggling, squeeing 15-year-old girls.
...with lobotomies.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-23 04:56:48 +0000 UTC]
No. she was not possesed, but they ...(slight spoilers)just got out of a very very very deathly situation where she was scared out of her wits, and so turned to the only person around for comfort. He happened not to be "fatherly" looking but attractive...so...she went a bit hormonal (slight spoilers) (Don't worry..the doctor isn't for it. At all. Nopity nope nope nope noppersNOOOOOoooooooo. He sets out to solve the problem and everything works out hunky-dory and Amy is set straight. They are JUST FRIENDS for the rest of the series's.)) I think series 5 and 6 has less of what you hate and more of what you will like. Lots of humor and plot twists. Fun fun fun. Adventures and such like.
I also argree those are all problems ( though I guess that they just don't bother me that much, I'm very character oriented and get sucked in), but for me there is enough good in the series to make up for it. The classic series had a few glaring problems as well (especially at the end b/c of "behind the scenes" problems), the new series solves those problems.... and comes with a whole new set. In the end, for me, it's still better than a LOT of other stuff on TV (especially in the States) and is very very enjoyable.
(I'm also stupidly optimistic, but at least I enjoy myself. XD I focus on the positive even if I have to use a microscope, b/c the negative is just to dang depressing. lol)
If you want to see a good matt smith episode soon to get a taste of him, the newest Christmas Special airs Christmas day. It looks fantastic. It's called " the Doctor, the widow, and the wardrobe" ^^ ( my, what could they be refrencing? )
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-23 07:10:29 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I'm sorry...I didn't mean to yell. And I am PERFECTLY aware of all the problems the classic series has--I could sit here and list them for a good long while. It's just that the new series's problems happen to be more what _I_ personally hate. Stupid plots, fine. Lame monsters, fine. Screaming Companions, fine as long as they can also have brave, spunky scenes. Cardboard sets? I _prefer_ the 1981 TV version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the new movie, so that oughta give you an idea of that. I was _raised_ on reruns of classic Trek and further weaned on Red Dwarf.
But Mary Sues? To somebody who has read and suffered through WAY too many bad fanfics? Ah, HAYELL nah!
Also...the thing with romance and Who. I do not mind the existence of romance towards the main character of almost _any other show_. (Whether I agree with the exact pairings the writers come up with in particular or how they're written, depends on each individual circumstance.*) But with Who...it started off with an actual RULE about no nookie between the Doctor and his Companions, and the show worked fine. It was actually kind of unique--in a sea of...every show ever made, including _childrens'_ shows, where if two people are attractive they ALWAYS get together...by having a man and a woman get into dangerous situations together and hug, and _love_ each other but not THAT way...it was kinda unique.
And then the new series made it just like everything else. See, I wouldn't be so against this if romance + the Doctor had existed right from the get go. But since something special was lost and I _know_ about it, well...
I also wouldn't mind as much if Davies had ever heard of the word: SUBTLETY. His idea of romantic "hints" are about as subtle as being clocked over the head by Superman wielding a plutonium cricket-bat! I have seen things where characters obviously have a thing for each other but don't say it right away, that were written _adorable_, tugged at your heart strings and made you WANT them to get together. You were _on_ the writers' side. RTD seems to only know the basic outline of that, but not what colours go _inside_ those lines...so you end up with swelling orchestral stings every 30 seconds and paranoid-jealous manipulative bitchy Companions who ALREADY _HAD_ A GOD-DAMNED BOYFRIEND WTF doing "meaningful" glances that Linger so long, they could apply for their own TV time slot.
(They could avoided SO many Bitch Points by having her be a lonely, single nerd-girl. And if she was a dreaming, imagining nerd instead of an ordinary average trendy-type, she'd also be more _compatible_ with the Doctor and I'd believe the relationship slightly more, and...a whole _avalanche_ of improvements.)
As for the Amy thing...I know the Doctor wasn't into that, but when I saw it out of context it seemed SO WRONG, it broke my brain. It broke my brain _so_ hard that I almost poured out my bottle of Jack Daniels and vowed never to drink again before I remembered that I DON'T EVEN DRINK. It made me almost wish for a moment that I DID have drug problems, so that I could have an excuse to shrug this off on the next day! But no, as depressed and stressed out as I am lately, I was _perfectly_ mentally competent when I saw that so there's _nothing_ to hide behind. WHAT. THE. FLYING. _FUCK_.
Seriously, the Companion _actually crawling all over the Doctor, taking his clothes off_. That is SO directly a fangirl fantasy come right to LIFE on the screen that it was _surreal_. I couldn't believe I was actually SEEING that.
Look, Moffatt, I know that humans are animals and we all get horny sometimes, but not _everybody_ is an equal amount of horny ALL the time--or lacks the same amount of restraint. Maybe try to remember that shy, cautious, burned, busy or just not looking for that right now people _do_ exist in the world next time, okay? Not just for this scene, but in general. Not everybody flings themselves carefree into instant sexual spontaneity. As fun and fantasy-ish as that may be, people with restraint DO freaking exist.
Sigh.
Sorry...this is a rant I've had pent up for a while, and you just happened to be the one to get it. I tried SO hard to be good and not get into this right at Christmastime when things are supposed to be cheerful, really I did...
Anyway. I'll suffer through that episode, but I'm REALLY wondering whether I'll be able to keep my hand off the stop button and the disc from flying out the window. But, I'll try...
...Notorious
*But there are some basic rules: If you have to wildly write at least one of them out of character, weaken/lower/degrade their personality, and/or the characters showed NO chemistry towards each other before this point so it's completely unbelievable and the new "romance" plot reeks of that _obvious_ last-season, shark-jumping, sweeps-week stench of desperation...You're Doin' It Wrong.
However, in-character relationships where nobody (usually the woman) has to throw away her career/identity/hopes and dreams/_sanity_ for: "A _MAY_ANNN!!!", I'm fine with.
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-23 15:48:51 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind a rant, it's good to get it all out. ^^ Man, you should see me go on about politics. Grr. XD
I didn't know that there was a "rule" for no romance before, that's pretty cool.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-24 01:26:59 +0000 UTC]
Phew...glad I didn't scare or piss you off. Normally I would rant about this stuff at my best friend, but she's been _really_ busy lately. (And I definitely would've done it at some time other than Christmas. Heh.) Oh, I can go on about politics too...but I don't, anymore, unless I HAVE to. Everytime I open my mouth about politics or religion, it seems, messageboards go up in flame. (Not because I'm like, a troll or naturally really loud and rude, but because I keep getting involved in communities where the majority has the opposite opinion of me--and not knowing it until the subject comes up.)
Yeah, there was actually a "no hugging, no kissing" rule in the TARDIS--mainly because the show started off as a _kids'_ show and even though the original creators were long dead/moved on to other projects by the time they came up with this rule (I _think_ it didn't formally exist until Five? but there just didn't _happen_ to be any of that beforehand, either). I read somewhere that supposedly Five wasn't allowed to touch his Companions, but that's totally not true--there's hugs and whatnot all around. Thing is, they're adorable warm _friendly_ hugs--not DRAMA! and SOAP OPERA and OMG, will they get together?! OTP!! type hugs and...that's just _cuter_, somehow.
Mind you, I'm not against romance or even sex in _anything_ at all--I just think plot elements should be where they _belong_--and be better written. It's not just this--basically, I just want things to say at what it said on the tin. In an R-rated movie, I expect R-rated things and I'm not shocked--but if really _directly_ sexual jokes or freaking DARK moments end up in a kids' cartoon that I was watching for its light-hearted humour and loveable characters, _that_, bugs me.
(And yes, I do know examples of these...modern shows have burned me SO many times--sucking me in and then going too dark, too depressing, or too gross--and that's why even Who is on sort of a "probation" with me. I've just been burned too many times...)
Earlier Who had all kinds of subtle, "hmmm, _do_ they have a thing for each other or not?" eyebrow raising moments, where you could _wonder_ and make up your own version. That's a lot more fun than being flat-out told. At loud volume.
I'd even be okay--or at least _more_ okay--with the Doctor falling in love with a Companion for real instead of in a fanfic, if said Companion had been really awesome and seemed legitimately compatible for him, and if the romance had been presented with a little more subtlety and allowance for the viewers' brain-power. You know? I'd be like, "Okay, fine, if this is how we have to do it now..." but I wouldn't be like, ANGRY. Somebody who's a bit of a loner and an intellectual...and I'm not saying this because I'm a nerd. I'm saying this because the DOCTOR is a nerd. Somebody who's ordinary, well-adjusted, social, talks only about family, relationships, jobs and possibly the news is _not his type_. Him falling for Rose, to me, smacks of nothing but he hadn't gotten any nookie for 500 years, so he was DESPERATELY going after the first thing that came by!
If they had given him somebody closer to say, Liz, or Zoe, or Nyssa, or--heck, _Romana_!--I would not complain at all. I'd be kinda sad that the show had lost its uniqueness, but I wouldn't think it was completely whoring itself out to the lowest common denominator.
Mind you, oddly enough...so far I have no problem with River Song. Well, except for her pretentious name. Everybody was telling me "Oh, if you hate Rose, you're going to flip through the CEILING when you meet River Song!" but so far I'm okay with her. Why? _She seems compatible and CLOSER TO THE RIGHT AGE_. Him and _her_ together remind me of more like, his relationship with Iris Wildthyme--a legitimate pairing of two equals, both time-travellers, both adventurers...rather than "Wow, what if the TARDIS landed on _my_ front lawn one day? And he took ME away on his wonderful adventures through the cosmos? And he fell in LOVE with me and we had fifteen beautiful Time babies?!!"
THAT'S why I don't like Rose. She's that generic ordinary-real-life-fangirl-gets-her-wish story that people have been writing since the _'70s_, become canon. But River Song? Fine. She's an _adult_ with her own life.
So anyway. The point of all that was to establish that I'm not some kind of prude or hysterical screaming "YOU CHANGED IT NOW IT'S RUINED!" type who doesn't allow _any_ romance in Who. I just want it to be well-written and plausible, dangit. (Heck, there were several earlier Companions I could've seen him with, really.)
...actually that's my requirement of any romance plot anywhere.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-24 03:43:53 +0000 UTC]
XD I totally understand what you mean.
I ship the Doctor and Riversong so hard for the reasons you gave. And others I can't say
Spoilers!
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-24 03:55:50 +0000 UTC]
Oh believe you me, I _appreciate_ your not telling me the spoilers. New Who fans are quite often the WORST for that! It's nice to talk to a fellow fan who _doesn't_ just carelessly blab everything...
(Seriously, people, I know you want to yell and squee and freak out when things surprise you but...ever heard of spoiler tags?)
Fortunately I haven't heard TOO many spoilers about Seasons 5 and 6, so those'll be mostly new to me. I also know very little about Sarah Jane or Torchwood. So there's that.
By the way, have you heard any of hte Big Finish radio plays? Some of the newer characters in those are awesome. I think so far Evelyn is my fave, with Frobisher and Iris tied for second.
...Notorious
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-24 04:03:17 +0000 UTC]
Man, I want to hear those so bad! A PENGUIN COMPANION! ( okay, technically a shape-shifter alien person or whatevs) The picture of a Little monochromatic friend waddling next to rain-factory-explosion-dressed six in my head makes me ROTFL for all eternity.
I haven't seen sarsh jane or torchwood stuff yet, I wasn't terribly interesting in torchwood but the SJA sounds cool. She was a cool companion.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to PinkisPractical [2011-12-28 06:13:47 +0000 UTC]
First of all, Merry (Late) Christmas! And secondly...yeah, Frobisher is awesome. And even better, what makes him awesome isn't even the penguin-ness or the shape-shifter-ness, but his actual _personality_. He kinda reminds me of...
Well it's hard to describe, but kinda, he has a feeling about him like...a...'40s or '50s comedian? But in a good way. Just...picture a guy on a stage with a cigar and a big loud checkered suit telling jokes to a martini-sipping nightclub audience, in this gruff, fast-talking snarky kinda voice. Like I said it's hard to explain--but basically...like an oldschool kind of funny...that IS actually _still funny_, rather than tired, lame or annoying. Or funny again, perhaps, because enough time has gone by. (Then again, bear in mind, I have been known to fall OVER laughing because of jokes in 19_40_s comic books, so take that how you will.) Anyway he kinda reminds me of a guy from Brooklyn in like, 1959.
...and he's still a shapeshifting penguin. Yes.
Torchwood and Sarah Jane--I've been watching them because I want to be completist and really do _all_ the official stuff that goes with New Who, at least once. I will tell you that although the two shows do both intertwine with Who at least a few times, mostly the sharing goes one way--that is, you have to watch Who to understand TW and SJA, but not the other way around.
HowEVer....I was so glad that I _had_ been watching them because it made "The Stolen Earth" storyline SO MUCH MORE FREAKING _EPIC_ when the characters from both those shows showed up to help! BOTH! Including the kid characters! I had no idea--that's one of the rare things I _hadn't_ been spoiled about before, amazingly--so I swear to you, although I'm an adult woman, the second they even cut to a shot of Sarah Jane's _house_ I started just EEEEEEEE! I was squeeing my _face_ off. Thank god nobody else was around. Having seen those peoples' adventures and knowing their backstory instead of just _guessing_ that this must be some kind of big-deal cameo because of the way they were being focused on, did make it mean a lot more.
Now, what would I say about those two shows themselves? Well, Torchwood is definitely darker and (immaturely done, I might add) sexier than I might like, in the first season...but the second is much better. In fact, I'm not sure if you're actually required to _watch_ the first season in order to understand the second. But I can tell you, if the changes they made were because of fan complaints, then, lo and behold, the fans must've been complaining about the same things as me for a change, because those are EXACTLY the things that were changed. Namely, the sexy stuff that involved slimy, hateful sleeping around on adorable boyfriends that didn't deserve it (not that I'm naming any names GWEN).
In fact, the whole show itself was dialed back a notch on the ratings' scale, too--the team members not only started behaving themselves and talking a _lot_ less filthy, but the storylines went from R to PG-13, too. It's like we had somehow quietly stepped just _one_ universe over...and nothing was ever spoken of it again.
Seriously. Season 2 never mentions A SINGLE THING about _anything_ that happened in Season 1! The disconnect got a little _eerie_ after a while, I mean...did they think the AUDIENCE had been memory-drugged? Whatever, I'm just glad the hateful cheating was done with. It might as well be a seperate show.
Also, Martha shows up and helps them out a fair bit. So that's cool.
Anyway, so, Torchwood is interesting and worth watching once, but I like the second season a lot better than the first and get ready for gore and darkness.
Sarah Jane Adventures, on the other hand, I have come to LOVE. And why wouldn't I? It's essentially exactly what I wanted out of modern Who--proper rip-roaring, colourful, cheesy-but-higher budget adventure WITHOUT all the _romance_ crap*. (Okay, so it doesn't have the actual Doctor in it. Still...)
The first few episodes are just kiddiefied enough to kind of annoy me...but then it starts getting _good_. Some later ones are truly emotional...and also sci-fi FREAKY. Like, blow-your-mind, put-chills-down-your-spine when you realise what's really going on, stuff. (The main writer of this show is Gareth Roberts, which is why I said that perhaps _he_ should be the one to take over Who after Moffat. I...kinda wasn't joking. At all. He can write New Who in a way that is indeed new and trendy...and yet still GOOD.)
Also, it's a show where an OLDER woman is the main HERO. Not just a mom, or a crazy villain, or somebody's eccentric neighbor. She is the _main_ character despite the fact that she is a woman, who actually has (gasp!) visible wrinkles. A lady in her 50s leaps around, jumps over things, uses her wits to get out of tight situations, rescues people and _beats the bad guys_. That--right there. The rarity of _that_ alone is enough of a reason to watch it.
Anyway. So, hope that gave you a vague idea of whether or not you want to check those out, and I will finally shut up now!
...Notorious
*It does have a few romancey elements, actually--but they don't get in the way and even on the rare occasions they're prominent, even THOSE are better-written than the ones in Who!
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PinkisPractical In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2011-12-28 13:43:16 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that sounds awesome! I'm totally going to look into the Sarah Jane adventures, maybe some of torchwood too. I love the idea of a main character being an older woman. ^^ Thanks.
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