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Objectification -- ignoring the deeper emotions and perceptions of the objects of desire, because one is unable to deal with their own emotions and deceptions. Here we see objectification taken to the conclusion of its end logic.Related content
Comments: 30
ameliastro [2011-03-18 19:16:52 +0000 UTC]
really great work, i normally can't stand most the anthro i come across on da, but there's so much to like in this it almost makes me want to let up on my guarded apprehensions. then i read some of the comments and remember that those walls are up for a reason. nonetheless, great work, you're now on my devwatch.
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Kalamari [2010-12-25 23:18:17 +0000 UTC]
what does the first sentence say? "it was the only way i could ????? you"
i cant read it to save my life! sorry
beautiful piece though seriously good.
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pseudo-manitou In reply to Kalamari [2010-12-26 04:03:54 +0000 UTC]
"it was the only way i could belong to you... it was the only way you could enjoy me... it was the best way this relationship could end..."
Rather bitter of me to write that, and not really linked to anything recent or that I have experienced. But certainly a quality I've witnessed in some who feel a relationship must include some victory over those they are involved with.
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Kalamari In reply to pseudo-manitou [2010-12-26 04:09:25 +0000 UTC]
well...its beautiful. and im glad you put it there. it applies to more people then one would initially think. its honestly the best way to describe the relationship i just got of.
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NeonEscapist [2010-11-17 21:55:21 +0000 UTC]
Poor you. Some of the comments you receive are pure "gold".
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pseudo-manitou In reply to NeonEscapist [2010-11-18 04:43:02 +0000 UTC]
No worries -- you shouldn't underestimate my ability to find humor in even the most bitter response
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Libberachi [2010-11-16 03:26:52 +0000 UTC]
I love this. I love this very much. I couldn't agree more.
It's sad how often these selfish man-children (as well as their female and intersexed counterparts) chase their idiotic dreams to the point where they end up as violent, hideous nightmares where no one truly gets what they want.
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ohsnap-son [2010-11-15 18:28:04 +0000 UTC]
This is pretty powerful. The choice of the cow as the animal being depicted here also brings attention to the objectification of animals "Their purpose is food". I have no trouble eating meat, as animals and people must consume others to go on living, but trying to numb themselves they only begin to fabricate insane justifications for their treatment of others (blame on women for misogyny being a good example). Comparisons can even be made to the mindsets of abusers.
I also love how this piece ties together human and animal objectification, as an animist, I see them as essentially being the same. I love this, because I think it's very powerful and effective. The strong violence in the image really shows the consequences of an objective view of the world. Excellent work.
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fragmeister [2010-11-15 13:04:19 +0000 UTC]
PM, I have missed your work. It is always inspiring and gives food for thought for the day.
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politocali [2010-11-15 07:13:44 +0000 UTC]
this relly gross dude n it not very accurate atall if sumone get there head chopped off then there body would be dead n i dont think there headf would look like there either it look alive still but i not happy about killin anthro that TOATALLY uncall for
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pseudo-manitou In reply to politocali [2010-11-22 05:13:29 +0000 UTC]
Communication is not one of your better skills. This artwork is VISUAL communication. Please study both in great detail before passing judgment on others.
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Libberachi In reply to politocali [2010-11-16 02:45:54 +0000 UTC]
.... o.O Not only is your lack of typing skills an absolute eyesore, but this post makes NO sense whatsoever. You also seriously need to look up the word "symbolism". This is not a literal piece of art. Most of PM's work is symbolic. Sheesh.
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revpermin [2010-11-14 19:55:17 +0000 UTC]
When women stop vainly objectifying and worshipping themselves, treating and displaying themselves like meat on display; might see a change.
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ohsnap-son In reply to revpermin [2010-11-15 18:08:27 +0000 UTC]
Blaming it all on women is not going to bring about a change.
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ohsnap-son In reply to revpermin [2010-11-17 03:02:03 +0000 UTC]
Actually, no it isn't. The behavior your blaming women for is taught to them by this culture, implying that women are expected to please men (it's subtle, but it's there). Blaming women for something that is imposed on them from a young age is backwards thinking and misogynist. If you want a real solution, how about rejecting the actual action of viewing of people as objects.
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revpermin In reply to ohsnap-son [2010-11-18 12:58:44 +0000 UTC]
It is. By their own culture, women RUN the magazines that are lapped up by girls, women now act as direct role models and steer others on the same path.
There is no hidden 'male' agenda.
Women do this to themselves.
Why?
Because they are taught men are after these things, that a man looks at a woman's breasts like a woman looks at a man's wallet.
Women are arguably naturally submissive.
Naturally cater to men's whims by dressing themselves as they do, not necessarily 'for' men, but because it gets them further, it's a social tool.
The alternative?
Women are vain and vacuous.
I'd like to think there is a little more pre-meditation.
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ohsnap-son In reply to revpermin [2010-11-18 19:36:25 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I guess there are women like that, and I don't like them either. But what I don't appreciate, is that you say "Women are like this" which basically is grouping me and other women who DO NOT fit your description, into a stereotype.
I didn't say it was a hidden "male" agenda, I said it was a flaw of the CULTURE, which includes men and women. Don't put words into my mouth. I'm not in the mindset that only one group can be to blame, like you are. Like you said, women perpetuate it as well, but it's not fair to say that ALL women do this. You can't just lump all women together and say they're the same. If you don't like women saying "Men are this, men are that" then stop being a hyprocrite, because that's how you're talking about women.
You said: "Women are arguably naturally submissive.
Naturally cater to men's whims by dressing themselves as they do, not necessarily 'for' men, but because it gets them further, it's a social tool." First of all, stop grouping all women into this group of yours. Obviously you haven't tried to really get to know many women, or you wouldn't be grouping all women together with your assumption. I understand that you're saying this based on what you've seen or experienced, but I have to say, you must have few real experiences of your own with women if you think all women are like this. If you've only ever met women like those you've described, you've been looking in the wrong places.
I would like to think you'd look further into an issue before deciding that you're assumptions about the world are right. Maybe try talking to different women before thinking that you're right about them. As a man, you can't understand what it's like to be a woman (I'm not saying that as some man-hating bullshit, that's just how it is, like how as an American I can't really understand what it's like to live somewhere else.)
And don't assume that I have something against men. I just don't like close minded statements and arguments.
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revpermin In reply to ohsnap-son [2010-11-18 23:20:28 +0000 UTC]
Not in the mood for this.
You're wrong.
Also I didn't say 'all women' on either point, I said 'women' which does not freakin' indicate 'all'.
YOU read it as all.
And I followed up your comment with a sarcastic rebuttal since your reply was daft and trying to reword what I'd said.
So your whole little spammy reply there is based on an assumption.
And based on your own over-defensive female insecurity complex.
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pseudo-manitou In reply to revpermin [2010-11-22 05:22:00 +0000 UTC]
I don't see how the sarcastic rebuttal worked in your favor considering that the internet is a poor substitute for communication, and the internet also harbors many people who would not say such a thing in sarcasm.
In the future, please control your temper long enough to rephrase the statement so as to clear the miscommunication and not start a chain reaction of off-topic points.
As it stands -- this whole thread could be misread by someone much later, resulting in yet more foolish remarks from others who do not take the time to read the entire thread. Perhaps I should hide this thread to spare you from getting late responses? Your call.
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revpermin In reply to pseudo-manitou [2010-11-22 14:04:16 +0000 UTC]
No response was necessary to my original post.
If people want to contradict the truth, their call.
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pseudo-manitou In reply to revpermin [2010-11-23 00:18:48 +0000 UTC]
And THAT is the attitude that doesn't help.
Feel free not to contribute again until you can leave that childish chip on your shoulder out of it.
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revpermin In reply to pseudo-manitou [2010-11-23 23:03:09 +0000 UTC]
Son.
It's provocative art.
If you can't handle the fact that it evokes criticism and provokes debate then maybe you're not ready for the big wide world of art.
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pseudo-manitou In reply to revpermin [2010-11-25 05:01:37 +0000 UTC]
I have over a decade of graphic design experience -- criticism is not something I take personally. I can pass on the tiny insults (like yours, for instance), evaluate what I need, swallow what I don't want to hear, and use it all constructively...
...assuming the criticism has anything constructive to it.
But that's not what's happening here.
This is critique of YOUR methods. You're choice of language is poor. It causes needless confusion. It cluttered up my post with useless back-and-forth due to an argument that never needed to happen. At best, your cliches and slight banter is more revealing of your own insecurities. And this isn't the first time.
If you have something to say, say it PROPERLY. If you have something to prove, go join a gym or climb a mountain -- whatever -- so long as you quit trying to start pissing contests on my art posts. It makes you small.
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revpermin In reply to pseudo-manitou [2010-11-25 11:13:23 +0000 UTC]
I repeat my first post:
"When women stop vainly objectifying and worshipping themselves, treating and displaying themselves like meat on display; might see a change."
Disagree all you like. Doesn't change the straight up facts.
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ohsnap-son In reply to revpermin [2010-11-18 23:47:00 +0000 UTC]
Well, I feel like an ass then.
Sorry about all that.
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pseudo-manitou In reply to revpermin [2010-11-14 20:21:07 +0000 UTC]
Same of all genders. No point in singling out one, even if my main skill is only in drawing the one.
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