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Is anybody else sick of users making bases? Seriously! No skill tracing idiots. They trace over line work and call it art, or they use their own pixel art stating other people can use it! Come on people, get some skill!!!Related content
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ShadowStriker997 [2011-06-16 14:03:06 +0000 UTC]
Most people who use bases now tend to be losers with no artistic talent what so ever.
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ShelbieStidham [2011-06-15 21:47:43 +0000 UTC]
Using Bases isn't real art. It's just tracing over someone else's REAL work, that THEY came up with themselves. People should make up their own art styles instead of copying.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to ShelbieStidham [2011-06-17 05:21:43 +0000 UTC]
exactly, thank you!!!
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ShelbieStidham In reply to PsychoEvolution [2011-06-17 05:28:03 +0000 UTC]
No problem sunshine. ^_^
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Theyaoigirl149 [2010-12-20 01:17:02 +0000 UTC]
Well, people sometimes make bases for contests. For example, say a user makes a base and puts it as a contest. People that edit and do their own thing with the base send it to said user.
Said user announces the winner and/or winners and awards a prize like, fanart or a fan fiction the winner requested.
Then that'd be a good reason for using bases.
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Theyaoigirl149 In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-12-22 22:01:22 +0000 UTC]
Well really, artists do use bases. Technically.
When you draw/use a simple sketch of a body, put in the details, and color it in, wouldn't that be considered a base? Or no?
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PsychoEvolution In reply to Theyaoigirl149 [2010-12-23 07:22:07 +0000 UTC]
As stated in a previous argument, there's a difference between a base and a reference, looking a person or an object infront of you then trying to replicate it is considered a reference, simply taking a base, and re-using it over and over and over, that theft of original art and proves that you have no skill as an artist
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each of these faggots think "ZOMG I ARE ARTIST BEEKUZ EYE CUN TRACE SHOTTY LONE ART HERPA DERP!!!
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Theyaoigirl149 In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-12-23 17:28:33 +0000 UTC]
Well, I see your point. Don't have to call them names though :c
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PsychoEvolution In reply to Theyaoigirl149 [2010-12-24 20:35:20 +0000 UTC]
Any name befits a thief who wants credit bestowed upon themselves bypassing original credit to the original artist from which they stole.
When they grow a spine I will call them nicer names
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Theyaoigirl149 In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-12-24 20:54:45 +0000 UTC]
But most of the artist ask for the art to be credited towards them. The people that use the art also credit the creator.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to Theyaoigirl149 [2010-12-26 05:23:14 +0000 UTC]
Are you sure?
Not the original original artist. The base creator simply traces the drawing to make the base then *demands* everyone who uses it credits simply him, not the actual artist who made the picture that took them hours/days/weeks to make, then the base maker simply steals the line art in 5 min...
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Theyaoigirl149 In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-12-26 16:12:40 +0000 UTC]
Some base creators actually do make the bases. Yes,people may steal the artwork of a person and make it into a base but people also make the bases themselves.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to Theyaoigirl149 [2010-12-27 20:48:44 +0000 UTC]
In extremely rare cases yes, In those cases it isn't theft, but they still supply a base to no skill idiots who then trace them and call it "art"
the point is that base makers support 11yr old kids who think that anything they crap out is considered art and when they find something easy to trace the jump right on it.
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Theyaoigirl149 In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-12-27 21:16:33 +0000 UTC]
Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Everybody has their opinions on what art is.
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GlamourKat [2010-07-28 08:01:41 +0000 UTC]
I agree completely.
My hatred for bases is unfathomable. Sure, trace over a well drawn ORIGINAL piece and call it your own, then tell people it's "okay to use" in their art?
I mean, really. The only person who can give permission is THE ORIGINAL ARTIST. Not to mention a lot of base tracers don't give proper credit, and think no one will ever find the obscure Pixiv account of whoever DID put in the time and effort. Sneaky.
And then scads of talentless hacks draw all over the bases and are all "What, I credited the base maker! I didn't do anything bad!" ignoring the fact that the person who made the base basically STOLE that work.
I don't have as much of a problem with people who make bases from their own drawings, but I certainly am not impressed by any of the subsequent derivative works. You don't learn anything that way. And it never looks that great, as anyone who can't be arsed to draw an anime human form is probably not going to be much better at fabric and hair.
/end rant
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undeniably-strange [2010-07-27 23:29:12 +0000 UTC]
Now, what if they're original bases made from their own drawings? Hmm?
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PsychoEvolution In reply to undeniably-strange [2010-07-28 06:27:07 +0000 UTC]
as long as its not a base that you give away so other people can trace over it and prove my point that there is no skill, then its all good. As long as its a well made base that has more than just line work and the base has a real point, then thats good.
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MewKitteh In reply to PsychoEvolution [2011-05-15 10:08:52 +0000 UTC]
Actually, any original base is fine. Even crappy ones. Hey, better crappy than stolen. XD
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PsychoEvolution In reply to MewKitteh [2011-05-17 17:45:25 +0000 UTC]
Well, yes and no. yes, an Original base is fine, as long as you dont let other people who have zero talent use it and let them be proud that what they made is considered "art". Crappy ones really have no business being art. That which a 5 year old child made (which is alot of what gets posted here as "art") will not win any awards or invoke human feelings.
I have bowel movements that would make better art than alot of what gets posted here, especially bases that require no skill.
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MewKitteh In reply to PsychoEvolution [2011-05-17 18:22:54 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, you have a point. But it depends on what people would consider "zero talent". Yeah, I hate crappy bases as well. I'm talking about ones that are blurry, have no shading, and have shaky lines. But I still prefer crappy original bases than traced, good ones. At least with the crappy one I could just simply re-outline it and shade it if I edited it.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to MewKitteh [2011-05-18 02:57:48 +0000 UTC]
True, would like to give a professional touch (compared to the rest of these people) to one of these bases, however you'd be stealing that which a professional already made
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MewKitteh In reply to PsychoEvolution [2011-05-18 03:45:06 +0000 UTC]
Oh, no, no. I meant, if I use a base like that, I'd just remove the shaky lines and all. I would NEVER take credit for making the base itself.
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MewKitteh In reply to PsychoEvolution [2011-05-18 13:48:22 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for understanding. ^^
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nebluus [2010-07-27 15:48:43 +0000 UTC]
there are lots of flames here....
I'll just go listen to We didn't start the flame war. XD
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HumbleNewb [2010-07-27 07:12:13 +0000 UTC]
Don't support stamp makers. Seriously, no skill in making a rectangle and putting stupid opinions in them.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to HumbleNewb [2010-07-27 19:15:07 +0000 UTC]
exactly! i didnt even use a base to make my lazy stamp!!!
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HumbleNewb In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-07-28 03:59:24 +0000 UTC]
Everyone uses a "base." You are no exception.
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PsychoEvolution In reply to HumbleNewb [2010-07-28 06:26:05 +0000 UTC]
there's a difference between a base and a reference. a base is line art that is either traced or is used to let someone else trace it. a reference is a photo or illistration that you use to make sure you have your angles and lighting right.
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HumbleNewb In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-07-31 22:13:27 +0000 UTC]
Attempting to justify by mentioning superficial, minute "differences"? I chortled! Greatly!
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PsychoEvolution In reply to HumbleNewb [2010-08-05 06:08:39 +0000 UTC]
Yet again, minute differences are not so minute. Tracing stolen art, and glancing over at a person standing right infront of you, again are not so minute.
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HumbleNewb In reply to PsychoEvolution [2010-08-06 06:38:26 +0000 UTC]
How you got on the subject of "art theft" is beyond me, but regardless, you are still struggling to validate one action over the other just to massage your limp ego. You, like all others, make and use "bases." If you sleep better by telling yourself that there is a "difference," then so be it. Who am I to deny little kids their fairy tales before bedtime? Oh, that's right... I'm the boogieman. Boo!
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PsychoEvolution In reply to HumbleNewb [2010-08-08 06:00:14 +0000 UTC]
Lol, you fail to realize that i'm not the only one who dislikes bases. So it's not my ego we are talking about.
As for the subject of art theft, thats the other point to disliking base makers. Tracing over someone else's art to make a base is art theft. Granted you don't draw very much so you may not know what it is to put a lot of time and effort into a drawing. These professionals will spend hours if not days making some pieces. Then in a 5 minute copy paste on to microsoft paint then a trace over and poof suddenly a base is made and the maker calls it art. So yes, there is a difference between using a live person infront of you and tracing over someone else's art.
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