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Earth-27 by Westerman & Cho, based on the characters and titles of DC ComicsCharacter Art, as always, by Phil Cho
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Tad little mistake. It's probably been pointed out before, but Raven IS her real name. "Rachel Roth" is an alias used to blend in.
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It is not a mistake, at least in some versions of the character Rachel Roth is her mother given name. That said, it is not a mistake here as as it was a deliberate choice to give her a human name by her human mother in this specific continuity.
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I wonder what ARGUS thinks of her. Β Probably advocate for her to be detained. Β
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Ex-Girlfriend.
Earth-27's Beast Boy is still basically a teenage boy despite his chronological age, the two stopped dating when Raven was college aged. They remain close friends.Β
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So what's Earth-27's Raven doing on the Outsiders? Β She a part time member, and how is with them when Geo-Force/Brion is well...you know....
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Well I was gonna say that he was the brother of Terra, but that works I guess
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But Geo-Force isn't necessarily an Outsider in Earth-27.
The Outsiders of Earth-27 weren't founded by Bruce Wayne, but were founded by Dick Grayson. So, things are different.
Also... I haven't figured out where Tara and Brion fit in the timeline yet. So, they could end up being anywhere from the same age as Dick, Jason, Tim, or even Damian, or younger.Β
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Oooooh, okay sorry for bothering youΒ
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That's kinda harsh ;; He's a Shapeshifter, so why can't they be together? People likely know he's a LOT older than he looks.
people aren't that dumb ;; If they did the guess on when his career started, they'd know he's really late 20s. So the argument kinda dies with the fact of chronology and logic.
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Raven's 28. Beast Boy has the body and hormones of a 15 year old boy. You don't see the problems with that?
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Plus...here's some real world logic:
Him dating a woman who is his age (at least mid 20s) is okay even if he looks young...
if he dated someone who is 15 just cause he looks young, despite the fact that legally he's an adult by human standards....he'd be breaking the law for dating a minor.
Really, Raven or a heroine close to his age is safer for him than jailbait Β ;; Again, he only looks 15, but by all LEGAL standings, he's an adult. M'gaan is an adolescent by Martian standards, butGarfield is a human who is mutated, this is a subject to Earth chronology. So since he is legally 28, no matter his look, he is an adult. Thus dating anyone under 18 would lead to him going to JAIL.
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You are missing the point. It is not a matter of legality. It is a matter of Raven not wanting to date someone as immature as a Beast Boy. That had their time. It's been done.
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Though if it's not that hard, maybe Terra? ;;; Given some of her history, I think someone like Beast Boy could help hre out. 
Though I am also curious on smoething here with Raven: Does she have any siblings? You know, any other half-demon kids of Trigon that represnet the other 6 sins? If I remember the comics right, Raven represents Pride.
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Ah, htat makes more sense then XP Hopefully Terra wrks out better if that is gonna be the case here ;; If not...ouch for Gar.
Just needed to say that
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M'Gaan was 48 and Conner was a few months at most in Young Justice. Diana is technically a few centuries old, but looks and acts like someone much younger.
Heck, Wolverine is at least late 180s and dates women who are MUCH younger, same with Captain America.
Beast Boy is 28 too, but he just looks like he's 15. People can look younger than they are or older. By all accounts, he and Rae are close in age. So LEGALLY, nothing wrong. Plus...she's half demon, where is she to judge?
Need I go on?
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M'gann and Conner is a moot argument. Both were biologically adolescents regardless of their chronological age. That is like comparing apples to oranges here.
Wolverine again, is a grown adult male whole dates grown adult women... as does Captain America. Neither of them date adolescent girls. What's your point?
Beast Boy is 28 years and while he may look 15, for a lot of intents and purposes, he IS still 15! His internal chemistry is still like that of a 15 year old boy. He gets zits all the time, his voice cracks, his hormones are out of control, he probably has some Martian teenage problems, too... So while maybe there is nothing LEGALLY wrong, the fact is it's not what Raven is interested to do.Β
Where Raven is to judge? She's a grown woman who probably wants a grown man.
You might think you're poking holes in my logic, but you're really just poking holes in my patience. This is my continuity and I had them dating when BB and Raven were younger as a nice wink and nod to that shipping, but Beast Boy is just that... a BOY and Raven is a woman in a relationship with someone else. It is that simple. Case closed.
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Okay. Sorry...it's the chronology that got me confused ;;;
Honestly ,it's always the confusing thing with super hero stuff when one is technically one age but looks diferent than theage even if they are a lot older than they initially look ;;
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No problem βΊοΈ. Was it a deliberate artistic choice to make them more realistic or just a result of Phil's artistic style and preferences.
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A little of both. In the details I give Phil for the character designs, I include "body build" and I more than not put things like "Average", "Athletic, but not Bulky", "Slender, but not Scrawny" and even among the men, I specifically gave details for Phil to draw Batman as more of a quarterback's physique so he could look like he could be athletic and strong while also be a ninja, as opposed to the bodybuilder he is usually drawn as... and with Superman I requested that he be thinner and less built than Batman as though he grew up on a farm, that would be anaerobic exercise and with his super strength, Clark Kent would not need to be hitting the gym to bulk up.
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Nice. Great to see how much you love this world you've created!
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Awesome! Someone never skips leg day! Never really knew much about Raven, until I watched the Justice Leagues vs Teen Titans film. Now I love her, such a tormented broken soul which is more compelling as a character than it probably should be. Love it! I'd love to see younger versions of the Titans from when they first became a team!
Also I must say, the women of earth-27 have very realistic body proportions (until power girl arrives that is πππ) which is really encouraging and respectful. If only actual comic book artists drew like this and realised that not every woman has massive breasts!
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Thank you very much, PixarPickle.
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Hmm, so without her demonic heritage, she isn't exactly one of Azarath's more powerful sorcerers, it seems.
Nice to see her be enthusiastic about spending time with her friends.
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It's not easy being the daughter of the devil (or close approximation). Daddy issues doesn't even begin to cover it but hey it's good to know that you can pull together with your friends and send the old man packing when he comes to call and destroy. Also I would go to the poetry reading with Raven, I like a bit of culture and really Victor? Garfield? You sissies!
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You know that scene from Saints Row IV where the player character and Pierce sing "Opposites Attract". I always thought it would be hilarious to see Raven and Gar doing that.
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Then Control Freak hacks into their Comms and sings along as well prompting them to go.Β
Beast Boy: "Hell no."Β
Raven: "He ruined,Β Paula Abdul."
Beast Boy: "Man I can't wait to beat that guy up."
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Nice profile on Raven, Roysovitch. I Like the JL vs. TT reference and Raven taking them to a poetry reading, lol, the titans would not want to spend inside a book club especially Beast Boy
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Poetry followed by Slam poetry. next door to a microbrewery, and a bookstore, I think I put all of Rae's favorite things in a spot.
The laser tag place has a ball pit. We see Gar with Pinkeye a week later.
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I'd love to hear some of Bruce's and Dick's... family conversations...
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I see you brought in some comics and combined it with JLvTT
Poor Raven, it's hard being the cultured one among a bunch of Philistines XD
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Raven, the joys of rooming with barbarians. I love your take on the plot to the TT vs JL movie.
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Proxy is the same girl who took over for Babs halfway during Stephanie's run as Batgirl?
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I think Roysovitch confirmed that in one of the other files, yes - it's Wendy Harris of Wendy and Marvin fame, who may or may not be Calculator's daughter. That's a bit of the Batgirl book I'm really glad made it in.
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Well Starfire, the reason Raven is not finishing her sentences is because... It like this you see, she is, um... The things is, she can't, uh.... never mind.
Those boys are kind of jerks, but then I would probably be in the same boat...
That is a very specific kind of question there Oracle...
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Raven acting oddly nice, smiling and creeping the team out.. Where have i seen this befo--... Oh no...
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Well, of course she's an Outsider - she's a Tiefling.
No?
I'll get my coat then.
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