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Every time I see a Brony complain about how the G3 counterparts to the G4 ponies are different, all I can think is "Oh yeah? How do you think we felt seeing our favorite ponies changed into what they are now.I remember when I watched the first episode of FiM for the first time. My reactions were: "Why did they give Rainbow Dash wings? And she's the cool type now?", "THAT'S Rarity!? Why did they change her design? I liked the old one!", "Aww... they changed Pinkie Pie's voice"
You're not that special, and it's not funny.
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railpony120 [2022-08-10 20:15:16 +0000 UTC]
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VW-Dmitri [2022-03-31 00:16:54 +0000 UTC]
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to VW-Dmitri [2022-03-31 15:31:42 +0000 UTC]
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Brachiosaurusbot9009 In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2023-01-12 10:40:01 +0000 UTC]
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SweetDreamsMonkey [2018-06-05 19:09:49 +0000 UTC]
Funnily enough, it seems the G4 fans are starting an uproar over the coming G5. This stamp was my thoughts exactly.
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Brachiosaurusbot9009 In reply to SweetDreamsMonkey [2023-02-17 23:19:02 +0000 UTC]
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dark-kunoichi92 [2017-08-30 23:48:32 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, G3 Rainbow Dash was the only thing I liked about G3 itself. Β Plus, without G3 Rainbow Dash, we wouldn't even have G4 Rainbow Dash (the same goes for G3 Pinkie Pie).
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SuperMarioFan [2017-03-09 23:53:00 +0000 UTC]
In all fairness, I don't think they were necessarily changed for the worst just because it's not what you grew up with. First off, just because characters like Rainbow Dash and Rarity were changed from what we knew in G3, doesn't necessarily mean they were meant to be the exact same characters. They could be like descendants of them or something. I'm sure MLP wouldn't be the first series to do this, changing some of the character designs and/or personalities with a new gen. I've heard some complaints about G4 Rarity being basically a ripoff of G3 Rainbow Dash, but I don't think that's entirely true. They're both into fashion, but the difference is, G3 Rainbow Dash liked to buy her clothes and "dress in style", whereas G4 Rarity actually owns her own botique and makes the clothes, and often gets recognized by top fashion ponies. Also, she's contributed and done some useful stuff outside of her fashion business. Now I know they both use the word "darling", and are a lot alike, but I wouldn't say they're quite identical. And if I recall correctly, Rarity's role in G3 (in which she was known as Princess Rarity) was fairly small.
Besides, I heard that the G4 mane six were meant to be more like the G1 mane six, but they lost the copyright to most of the G1 names, except for Applejack and Spike. Heck, I actually prefer some of the G4 roles, such as Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle being part of a group, along with Applebloom, that are all sharing/seeking a common goal. It also takes Scootaloo's love for her scooter, but gives her more talent with it. Sweetie Belle is bad at cooking, unlike her G3 counterpart, but like I said, could be descendants. Plus, the fact that they all have bigger sisters to look up to also adds a nice touch. Although, Scootaloo doesn't have an official sister and instead looks up to Rainbow Dash as one, whereas Cheerilee was her sister, but her current version is instead a teacher, I still think it works. Don't get me wrong, their G3 roles were kinda cool too, but it just feels like they have more purpose and more to work with overall, despite being different.
I still do respect all the characters' roles in G3, but I also feel that their G4 roles work well in their own way.
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Seiya-Meteorite [2017-02-24 19:08:59 +0000 UTC]
Though I didn't grow up with G3, I can understand and feel ya. I even like some G3 ponies myself (Minty, Rarity).
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CarasDrawings22 [2016-11-14 06:02:00 +0000 UTC]
I love g4, but some bronies just have no empathy.
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GalaxyPixies45 [2016-09-22 13:01:48 +0000 UTC]
My sister and I like the G3 ponies but my sister doesn't like G4 ponies except for me
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RefreyarecSaga77 [2016-07-07 00:47:32 +0000 UTC]
yes. i used to LOVE MLP, and literally bought all their merchandise...then they changed the characters :/
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LuciferianPrincess [2016-05-31 15:34:31 +0000 UTC]
I was the same, It was embarrassing when I was at a convention talking to an MLP fan, she was talking about G4 and I was talking about G3.
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AzamiMatic [2016-04-11 07:13:46 +0000 UTC]
I agree, honestly I prefer this feminine sweet rainbow dash. I don't really like the sassy bossy tomboy g4 rainbow Dash.
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poolel In reply to AzamiMatic [2019-02-27 10:35:37 +0000 UTC]
You have such boring taste, darling.Β
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Lighteningrider [2015-11-29 07:34:08 +0000 UTC]
It took me a little while to get used to Rainbow Dash, I thought Pinkie Pie was still the same, and for some dumb reason, I forgot about Rarity.Β
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SterileRitalin [2015-09-12 17:51:42 +0000 UTC]
"Oh yeah? How do you thinkΒ weΒ felt seeingΒ ourΒ favorite ponies changed into what they are now."
You mean good characters with good personalities that weren't one note?
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-12 19:12:48 +0000 UTC]
I see you've never actually watched the show outside of bronies' anti-reviews.
The characters in question did have personalities that were different from the other ponies, and were good characters. "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" didn't come along until the end of G3. The "real" Rainbow Dash was wise, motherly, and mature.
Pinkie pie was actually kind of similar to her G4 personality, only not so hyper.
Rarity was bursting with personality, she was a young unicorn who didn't like to follow rules, and it was made clear that she didn't understand the responsibilities she had, and this got her into trouble in her movie.
Fluttershy didn't have a character in the show, even though her name existed in the toyline. However, there was a character named Wisteria whose personality was very much like modern Fluttershy. She didn't like attention drawn to her, which caused her conflict in her movie. She even cared for flowers the same way Fluttershy cared for animals.
There were other characters as well who didn't make it into G4. There was Minty who was clumsy, didn't always know when to admit her mistakes, and tried to fix them before anyone noticed, even though fixing it didn't work out and then she had to admit her mistake. And there was Starcatcher, Skywishes, Lily Lightly, the first Cheerilee, and more. All who had real, unique personalities that were far from one-note.
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-12 19:21:54 +0000 UTC]
I've seen the show, i've seen all of it because I have little cousins and my aunt thinks that G4 MLP is 'too scary'
I've seen the entire show, and the movies.
Also whats wrong with the reviews who say it bad? They have many valid points, or do you not like it because its not your opinion?
G3 is the lowest point of the MLP fanchise, G1 was good and laid the foundation, G2 went down a bit but was still watchable, G3 is when the franchise took a nose dive into shit creek, and G4 is G1 but with morals and less humans.
The only brightside to G3 is that its not EQG, which is quite a fucking achievment.
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-12 19:45:32 +0000 UTC]
If by "valid points" you mean "OMG IT'S TOO PINK MY EYES!" or "And they did this... because reasons". They hate it because they want to. None of them actually review the series.
What's wrong with the reviews that say it's bad? They're all cringingly biased and have no actual points to make. They're wrong that it has no conflict, and that none of the characters have personality (which I just proved you wrong). All they see is "girliness" and have nothing of value to say about it. They're immature about it. Their only reasoning is "it's not G4, and it's not aimed at me, so it's bad".
Unless you actually understand what goes behind a kids show, a grown man is not going to understand a show made for little girls. You can't compare a show made for little girls to a show made for a unisex teen+ audience and then say it's bad when it doesn't add up. It's not a fair judgement.
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4-Chap In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2017-04-03 21:27:17 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I like G3 as well when they review it they're sort of just bashing it
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-12 19:58:34 +0000 UTC]
Yes and the bronies who make those reviews are like the ones who dislike Alicorn Twilight because princess, and I acknowledge that their reviews are shit. But the difference between those bronies and the bronies i'm talking about is that the bronies i'm talking about make actual arguements
I'm going to link you to a Mr.Enter video, say what you want about him but his G3 reviews but he has more variety to his arguments.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSfaU4β¦
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgT4Toβ¦
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tki6bDβ¦
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIWHw3β¦
And if you're a good little boy/girl and watch all the reviews like how I read your monoliths of text I won't end our conversation with a 'tl;dr'
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The-Syreth-Clan In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-21 15:39:33 +0000 UTC]
>he has more variety to his arguments.
>'Minty, there's an open space there... why aren't you standing there?'
>'The Pink Menace will catch you, it's going to infect and murder you.'
>'STAHP GIVING THE SHIPERZ EMO!!!'
Yes, definetly good points that changed my outlook on the series entirely.
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-12 20:52:01 +0000 UTC]
LOL Mr. Enter. Yes, I've seen his reviews and he's at the top of my list of biased bronies. In fact, he's the one who inspired every single defending-G3 post I've ever made.
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-12 21:30:51 +0000 UTC]
Apprently coming up with good points is now biased.
again, G3 is the lowest point, i'm actually surprised that people are defending G3. Like how masocistic to you have to be to defend one of the worst things to come out of the MLP franchise.
I have not met a single person who thinks that G3 was actually good, well not anymore, I am having a conversation with you.
You're telling me that the generation that gave us Newborn Cuties is a good generation, at least when it comes to G4's miss-steps bronies are able to acknowledge that its bad, G3 fans seem to be under this impression that there is little to nothing wrong with G3. Which of course is fucking insane.
G3 is not a generation of MLP, it is a form of torture only to be used on the most deserving of victims.
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GySGtGibbs In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-23 23:59:54 +0000 UTC]
"G3 is not a generation of MLP, it is a form of torture only to be used on the most deserving of victims."
That is exactly what AnScathMarcach is pointing out. You bronies do little but insult the show and degrade it's fans. You're "reviews" are more like the most vile Westboro Baptist Church letters, not an actual form of criticism or analysis.
Lastly, when you say such things, it is little wonder why more and more people hate the bronies every day of the year.
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SterileRitalin In reply to GySGtGibbs [2015-09-24 00:15:10 +0000 UTC]
Maybe because G3 is the bottom of the barrel, no no, it's not even in the barrel. Its six feet deep under the barrel.
Oh grow some fucking balls. "Oooh you're insulting what we like, oooh you're degrading us! Whine whine whine!". Wow, the WBC, I was expecting something more cliche like the nazis or something.Β
What do you expect reviewers to suck your fucking cock and praise G3 to no end? No, it fuckings sucks. The characters have no personality, the episodes have no conflict, it thinks that all little girls need is flowers and rainbows to keep them happy (which is insulting to their intellegence), and frankly the fans (inculding you) are like fucking brats! Oh and 'you bronies' like we're the fucking boogieman, you're so goddamn thin-skinned. At least G4 Bronies are able to take the fact that people don't like MLP FiM, you pussies throw a hissy fit and whine with "You don't like G3! You're just a G4 fan! You don't understand how GOOD G3 IS!"
Like, you're the 5 year old brats who watched G3 and were fucking hypnotized by it, because it panders to people with the lowest expectations, and you fuckers eat it up like the TV dinners your parents made because they were too busy to give you real food. Yeah i'm going there, G3 is like shitty TV dinners, you eat it and eat it, and when you're shown real food, you throw it away and go back to eating your shit.Β
No, fuck you, you don't get to say shit like that and expect it to work. All it does is make you look like brats. And thats the honest to god best way to describe you G3 fans, Brats. At least G4 bronies know when to ignore the Anti-Bronies, you people cannot take negative critisism of your precious G3. Bronies were like you guys when the fandom started out, nothing but thin-skinned adult-children who couldn't critisism even if it was valid. But then the fandom grew up, but not you wimps. You wanted to stay in the childish state, but G4 was too mature for you, so you went to G3, and there you stayed. Now whenever people bring up the very obvious flaws with G3, you act like a toddler, you throw a fit: "OH ITS NOT G3'S FUALT, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT G3 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT G4 WOULDN'T EXIST". Yeah but if old people can be intolerant, G3 can be shit. And it is, it is pure shit.
I'm glad its over, its a pimple on the face of MLP.
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-30 02:44:34 +0000 UTC]
"The characters have no personality, the episodes have no conflict, it thinks that all little girls need is flowers and rainbows to keep them happy"
I love how you keep using that argument after it's been proven wrong.
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-30 10:42:23 +0000 UTC]
The characters have one note personalities, the conflict in the episodes are as mundane as possible, and it despite being aimed at little girls, the little girls have better shows to watch. Instead of little girls, it has braindead men and women in their teens and 20s and 30s fawning over it like its the next coming of jesus.
That better smart ass?
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-30 14:25:54 +0000 UTC]
I proved to you in my first comment that the personalities are not one-note. You are wrong.
Now I will prove you wrong that there is no conflict:
In Princess Promenade, the main character is pushed into being a princess when she doesn't want to be. Conflict. In A Very Minty Christmas, Minty breaks the Here Comes Christmas Candy Cane and not only can Santa not find Ponyville without it, but Minty has to deal with the internal conflict of what she has done, facing her friends, and going to find Santa herself, practically getting herself and Thistle Whistle killed! HUGE conflict. Runaway Rainbow, Rarity gets teleported away from Unicornia and has to get back or there will be no rainbows this year. No rainbows means all color will be drained from the world and one of their food sources will disappear. You are wrong.
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-30 18:54:48 +0000 UTC]
Its funny because you inflate these 'conflicts' to be of G4 standard.
Princess Promenade was done better in Twilights Kingdom because her being doubtful of being a princess was built up over the season and it amounted to something other than "You get to be a princess, you get to be a princess, EVERYBODY GETS TO BE A PRINCESS"
A very Minty Christmas's conflict of "if theres no magic candy cane then we don't get any presents!" was shot down when Santa came to the town anyway. And again, G4 did a Christmas special better with Heart's Warming Eve, because in that episode all three races of pony had to work together or they would all die. Plus I think it would be better if Minty and Thistle Whistle died, because then it would be able to keep me from falling asleep.
Runaway Rainbow was just boring, since the characters are comparable to cardboard, I never gave a shit about their endevors, it was just bland.
G4 gives us episodes like Tanks for the Memories that can subtly teach kids about the greiving process without killing off a character. G3 gives us Two For the Sky, which has the message of a bad anti-twilicorn fanfic.
To be honest (and possibly insulting) your whole inflation of G3 bare-bones conflict reminds me of something from TTG where Raven talks about Pretty Princess Pegasus's (which has more substance than G3) newest episode like its the best thing ever.
Your inflation makes me think of TTG, thats pathetic.
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-30 23:04:55 +0000 UTC]
It's not inflation, it's you dumbing it down because you want so badly for it to be bad and you don't want to accept that your accusations are flat out wrong, as I've proven so time and time again.
Nobody is saying G3 is the "best thing ever", we're saying it's not bad. It is you that wants to paint it as the worst thing ever. Femininity is not poison. Both feminists and people like you need to realize that.
You are wrong. Deal with it.Β
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Seiya-Meteorite In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2017-03-08 05:42:18 +0000 UTC]
Don't listen to that Sterile guy, he's a rabid hater/brony and is a reason they are hated.
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SterileRitalin In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-30 23:39:15 +0000 UTC]
Actually no, it is indeed inflation. You're making it sound much better than it actually is. If you were dumbing it down you would have said the actual plot, as they are indeed the dumbest thing ever
"Femininity is not poison." I never said it was, I was saying that even little girls know better than to watch G3, its not that its girly, its because its the bad kind of girly, the insulting kind of girly. The kind of girly that talks down to girls and thinks that it needs nothing but rainbows and ponies to keep little girls entertained. And thats just horrible, giving little girls this is like giving them socks for Christmas, it makes them feel under-aprechiated. Its like the people who made G3 are saying "We could put some real effort into this and make it worth buying and watching, but since we care nothing about money we're going to just overload it with stereotypical girly things so that we can trick them into buying it.". Theres this thing called 'The Illusion of Movement' (coined by the Nostalgia Critic) and what it is having the movement of the characters be safe and by the book and static so that it can hypnotize kids instead of entertaining them, and thats what G3 is, static by the book girly things that Hasbro used in G3 so that the poor girls who watched it just sat there numbed by its soft and cutesy images. The characters are one note because pfft girls don't need complex characters because little girls love perfection and giving the characters flaws would be damaging! the conflicts are cutesy girly shit because tough conflicts that have elements of exploration, monsters, and adventure is for the boys and we're marketing towards girls! Lets never let them out of the 'girl' box, lets just numb them!
No, you're wrong. G1 told the little girls of the 80s that they could go on grand adventures and go to the ends of the earth to save their friends and defeat monsters on every stripe, even if it meant doing it peacefully. G2 did tone down the adventure, but it still had some good lessons and had the balls to introduce boys and not make them the main antigonist/extremely gross and crude. G4 gave us the best of both worlds, balacing the adventure with the girlyness, it had adventure and could still be a slice of life show at heart. G3 gave us the bottom of the barrel, boring character, boring conflict, and talked down to little girls saying that all they needed was rainbows, pretty colors, and a happy ending with no climax or rising arc or anything a story needs to be a story. yeah, the reason why G3 sucks so much ass is because it doesn't go through the main points of a story, it makes the illusion of doing so, but if you actually use your fucking brain and take off your fantard classes you'd see that theres nothing there. Another reason why G4 is so good is because FiM fans aren't sheep, we have an analysis community. "BUT IT FLAWWED!!!11!!" I don't care, for every Jerry Peet and Joshscorcher theres two Silver-Quills and two Goldenfoxes and two Keyframes. G4 has people who know when something is bad and when something is good and when something is average. G3 can't have an analysis community not because G3 is too short of a series, but because all the fans act like theres nothing wrong with the show, they act like all critizism is hate, like a spoiled child who thinks that just because they like it means that its good. Its not, it sucks, and its all because theres no diversity in fans, not the 'poc' or 'lgbtq' type of diversity, but the "i think this is bad" or the "i think this is ok" type of diversity.
Seriously, name one G3 reviewer who doesn't 'blindly hate' G3. You probably won't find one, mainly because they don't exist.
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GySGtGibbs In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-24 00:20:30 +0000 UTC]
Keep it up man, you're only making the brony community look worse. (sarcastic clapping)
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SterileRitalin In reply to GySGtGibbs [2015-09-24 00:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall with brain damage.
BTW dumbass, G3 is a part of the Brony community, so therefore you're a part of the 'worst'.
Also its '*sarcastic clapping*' not '(sarcastic clapping)' you moron.
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GySGtGibbs In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-24 01:29:13 +0000 UTC]
G3 isn't part of the Brony community; you bronies have made it clear that we are not welcome among you. Your response to me have only reinforced that. Β
Besides, after those insults you gave me, it's little wonder why I am no longer a Brony.Β
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SterileRitalin In reply to GySGtGibbs [2015-09-24 01:48:50 +0000 UTC]
"You bronies"
Firstly, I am not a Brony. You don't have to be one to see that G3 fans are thin-skinned brats.
Secondly, there are many Bronies who are fans of G3, so yes, G3 is a part of the Brony Community. They shouldn't be, but they are.
Oh i'm sorry cuppy-cake, did you not like my insults? Maybe if you grew some balls and got a thicker-skin you wouldn't give a shit like normal people on the internet.
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DrawingGirl4 In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-11-14 21:14:12 +0000 UTC]
Alright while I will say that most G3 fans are whiny butthurt idiots, the person that your basicly harassing isn't one of them.. She's simply putting out that bronies go WAY to far with the G3 hating and the fans. You want to see bad G3 fans? Look no further thrn here misskillersparkles.deviantart.⦠and this creampufflol.deviantart.com/ar⦠.
And before you say ' it's not harassment' well if Enter saying Fluttershy getting hit by Angel is domestic violence, then I have the right to say that you putting her and this other person down for liking it since you put G3 on WAY to big of criticism and all you do is copy and paste enters arguements... Another thing that ruins the credibility of all your argumentes is your constant comperison to 'FIM'. G3 was not trying to be 'FiM' hell FIM wasn't even in production until 8 YEARS after G3. So comparing G3 to a generation that Hasbro probably wouldnt never guessed would exist is very unfair,And it's funny that another one of Ans stamps mentions that anscathmarcach.deviantart.com/⦠. Also you seem less like your trying to defend your point and more like a self entitled 8th grader using insults and long words to win his debate class. You can hate G3, you can hate an's opinions and think her points are stupid, that's perfectly fine, but when you compare liking G3 to eating crappy TV dinners and make her feel like shit for liking it, and use comments towards the user user that debated you like ' talking to you is like talking to a brick wall with brain damage' is where it crosses the line. But I think the biggest problem with your comments is that they sounded less like interjections and more like you were offended that someone liked G3.. Speaking of which anscathmarcach.deviantart.com/⦠, I've been able to find THREE reviewers who like G3.tuxedo-guy2.deviantart.com/art⦠and www.pony-palace.com/a-very-min⦠and matteonl97.deviantart.com/art/⦠. Also, before you tear through my arguments for being a 'G3 fan' I'd like to say I found G3 to be the more dissapointing times of MLP with all of them being medicore except for 2 which I actualiy found okay, one short that was alright,and 1 which was a Guilty pleasure for me. Lastly, here's a preview of my G3 commentaries where I talk about Enter, The G3 Specials, his arguments, and WHY G3 exists.
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GySGtGibbs In reply to SterileRitalin [2015-09-24 02:25:20 +0000 UTC]
*yawn* ... Oh, you're still here? Whatever. Do show yourself out when you are done drinking that semen cocktail. *yawn* I got a scene to finish writing.
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Razberry33 [2015-09-12 00:04:10 +0000 UTC]
I still want to know why they DIDN'T INCLUDE MINTY ONE OF THE GREATEST G3 CHARACTERS EVER. Also others like Starsong, etc..
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Brachiosaurusbot9009 In reply to Razberry33 [2023-01-09 08:57:43 +0000 UTC]
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to Razberry33 [2015-09-12 00:08:22 +0000 UTC]
I know. They do have toys of her still, but she never appears in the show.
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Razberry33 In reply to SammyJ-Studios [2015-09-12 00:13:07 +0000 UTC]
Wait- You're telling me:
They have G4 Minty toys but she isn't in the SHOW?
Nice move there Hasbro..
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SammyJ-Studios In reply to Razberry33 [2015-09-12 00:22:32 +0000 UTC]
Yep, she's a blind bag, and in a Fischer Price(?) playset.
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Stinkek In reply to Damoops [2015-10-11 10:15:36 +0000 UTC]
MLP:FiM got me into G3. In some ways I like G3 better than FiM, e.g. I like G3 Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash better than the G4 characters of the same names.
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