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Description I couldn't resist filling this out. I'm gonna try and keep myself blunt, because frankly I feel I really don't need to explain myself.

Favourite Game: Pokemon Colosseum
This game stands to be my favourite Pokemon game of all time, given the way it differs from many other titles. Colosseum is such a welcome departure from the main theme of Pokemon games. Collect gym badges, challenge Elite Four, become champion. You'll be bothered occasionally by your rival along the way, and have to make a couple pit-stops to bring to a halt the plot of a villainous team, but otherwise, you follow the formula. I absolutely love how Colosseum abandons this subject. When you first start, your character really has no plans. He doesn't want to challenge any gyms or become champion. There isn't even an Elite Four in his world. Instead, the journey through Pokemon Colosseum is entirely centered on the villains, and aren't villains one of the best parts of a game? Don't we look forward to challenging and defeating the villain, to learning the inner workings of their minds and their dastardly schemes? Colosseum revolves around this. To win the game you must stop the villain. I also like stealing Shadow Pokemon from trainers, as even though the choices are far more limited, it challenges the player. The Pokemon are often obscure, ones the average person would never think to use. The game tosses a challenge at you to try new things, to use Pokemon you never gave a chance. And it's a lot of fun! The final thing I have to praise is the in-game character. Far as I can see, this is the only Pokemon game where you don't play as a child, and regardless of my age, I always loved it. As a kid it was fun to be the adult. I was no longer taunted as a little kid, but I stood equal with the adults who usually ridiculed me. As an adult, I simply like being what I am, fully grown and developed. The character was interesting, cool, and had an awesome past.

Honourable Mentions: Pokemon XD

Despised Game: Pokemon Go
Honestly, I think everyone saw this coming, and I know a lot of people are going to ridicule me for it. Let me make one thing clear, I don't hate people who play it. I can see the good it does for many people, getting them out and about, exercising and meeting new people, going new places. That's a good thing. I'm glad there are so many people who can reap joy from this game, who can find hours and hours of entertainment from it. I hope they have fun. I hope they enjoy chasing their favourite Pokemon and raising them to the best of their abilities. I just don't find that joy in it. To me, it's a boring, mundane phone app that doesn't deserve all the attention it's getting. And the depressing part is that much of this attention is negative. It's scary to think that now I could say Pokemon to others, and the people like my grandmother who will likely never understand it might immediately think of what has been on the new. That they might think "Oh, Pokemon! You mean the game that makes people run in front of cars and jump of bridges? Are you gonna run in front of a car or jump off a bridge?" It's like when the whole Creepypasta thing happened, when the girls tried to kill their friend. For a while, it made all Creepypasta fans assumed to be homicidal and unable to differentiate reality and fantasy. Pokemon Go is becoming mainstream, and I'm not sure I like the idea of anything Pokemon being mainstream. It's also sort of undermining Sun and Moon.

(I've eased up towards this game since the hype about it has died down. Don't get me wrong, it is monotonous as all hell, but the game is acceptable for a mobile game and I've decided there are far worse games, as listed below)

Honourable Mentions: Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Ranger Guardian Signs, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity, Pokepark

Favourite Rival: Barry
Yes, I love Barry. I love his flighty, unfocused, completely distracted personality. I love to interact with the guy. He's one of those people who doesn't really come off as too serious, the sort you can battle and even if he starts acting competitive, you can't take it seriously. I like to think that he's a sort of person I could battle with and just have a good time. He is such a happy guy, and though he can be incredibly impatient, it doesn't seem like much really downright upsets him. I feel bad that he got a lot of negative reception because of his hyperactivity, and I wish I had given him a chance so much faster. He's a charming, funny fellow and I feel him and I would be great friends.

Honourable Mentions: Hugh

Despised Rival: Bianca
Remember how I said I like Barry for being flighty and unfocused? That was the personality done right. A person in such an all-fire hurry he simply isn't noticing what's going on because he's going too fast. If Barry slows down, he can be clever and smart, aware of what's going on. Bianca is how NOT to do this personality. She's just downright not with it. Bianca couldn't be aware of her surroundings no matter how much she tried. Barry can slow down, Bianca can't. She's already going as slow as physically possible, and she still can't figure out what's going on. She's the overly helpful to a fault sort, the one who insists on holding your hand even when you really don't need it. I got so tired of her interrupting my game play to tell me an overly elongated paragraph of information I either already knew or didn't care about. And now that I look at Barry and Biance side-to-side, does anyone else think Bianca looks like a female recycling of Barry's design?

Honourable Mentions: N/A

Favourite Villain: Commander Saturn
The kitty-haired Galactic commander still stands as my favourite Pokemon villain of all time, although to be fair, I really like all of Team Galactic. I simply find myself drawn to Commander Saturn more than others. While he can be a bit easy to aggravate - and who doesn't have their pet peeves - he appeals to me as a generally intelligent and calculating sort. It seems like he's usually got a plan detailed in his head and is willing to do anything to make certain those goals are reached. To me, he appears a very strategic man, self aware and always acute. While he does take shortcuts whenever necessary, he seems to nonetheless have calculated this very cheat into his plans. Charming in both appearance and personality, and a wonderfully strong authority figure, I have to like him.

Honourable Mentions: Cyrus, Ein, Commander Mars, Commander Jupiter, Ice

Despised Villain: Jesse, James, Meowth
I'll be the first to admit it, I was charmed by them at first. When I first watched Pokemon they were a nice source of comedy relief and I enjoyed seeing them. However, they became a major thorn in the side very quickly. Team Rocket insisted on being in every episode, and they quickly felt like a plot device, an excuse to push forward the storyline of an episode that otherwise had no story. I got tired of seeing them and their charm dispersed into an annoyance. Every appearance was the same, and the stupidity I once found comical became just that, stupid. I wondered why Giovanni hadn't fired them yet, why he kept putting up with their crap. Just drop them! It's a waste of funding! All I wanted was for them to blast off and never come back, but like a mosquito, you just can't get rid of them.

Honourable Mentions: Lovrina, The Societea

Favourite Gym Leader: Pryce and Brycen
I honestly couldn't pick, because both of them found some way to charm me with what little they actually contributed to the game. It seems I have a strange urge to gravitate towards ice-themed gym leaders. I felt like both Pryce and Brycen didn't get nearly the attention they deserve. Both were just small spots in a large storyline, there for five minutes, never referenced beforehand, and never spoken of again. And why? Pryce was a smart and kind elderly gentleman. I got so absorbed in his past, his life. Elderly people can be so comforting at times, and Pryce always felt to me like my very own grandfather, cold on the outside, but loving and friendly within, waiting for a loved one to open up that shell. If you every need an excuse to like Pryce, just look at his backstory. Look at his life. Pryce is so old and as such, he's got a lot to tell, he's had more things happen to him. Just think of everything Pryce has seen and done in life. And Brycen, where do I go here? Firstly, I feel bad for him. He was an awesome gym leader in the original Black and White. He was the trainer whom introduced my to Cryogonal, one of my now-favourite ice types. Then Black 2 and White 2 came along and the great creators at the Pokemon Company decided Brycen didn't deserve to be a gym leader anymore. Now, I know he was an actor in the past, but I just don't understand how he can suddenly go back to that after previously deciding against acting. He spent so much time training Pokemon and now what? They don't matter anymore? I don't like the Pokemon Studio segment of the game, but I do actually like Brycen as an actor. I just wish it had been a background hobby, something he did when he wasn't challenging trainers at the gym. Nonetheless, Brycen is clever, quick-witted, and incredibly creative. And can't we all here bond with a creative soul?

Honourable Mentions: Sabrina, Morty, Roark

Favourite Elite Four: Karen
How can one call themselves a Pokemon fan and NOT love Karen? She's got one of the most memorable and thought-provoking lines of dialogue in Pokemon history. She said what many of us trainers thought, hiding behind the overly competitive people. People like me, who would fight with our common, not-as-powerful Pokemon were blessed to hear her agree that our Pokemon were strong not because they had high stats and fancy moves, but because we loved them. I really don't need to say anything else about her. To play Pokemon as much as I and to hear this line will truly light your spirits.

Honourable Mentions: Lucian, Shauntal, Grimsley

Favourite Champion: Steven Stone
Sadly, he's really the only champion I like, and even that hosts limits. Steven is at least a charming and clever man, and I can feel that he's spent a lot of time understand the world around him and learning how it works. He's one of the few champions who is entirely helpful to the player. Yes, yes, Lance battled Team Rocket with you, but think of how many times he simply denoted you'd be totally fine and waltzed off. I like being independent, so I wasn't offended, but if someone's going to claim to be helping me, the least they can do is actually assist me. Steven isn't too bad all around, though I do get tired of his steel Pokemon

Honourable Mentions: N/A

Favourite Pokemon: Gliscor
If you expected anything else, then you clearly have never spoken to me. We all know I absolutely adore the fellow, a vampiric scorpion monster, it harbors everything I look for in a monster of an RPG game. It's intimidating by default, but can host a sweet and cute side of you give it another look. It's fierce, fast, and strong. Gliscor can glide after prey with terrifyingly silent stealth, and when it strikes it will lash out with all the terror a Pokemon could hold. It's a strong battler in game too. All around, I love this fellow, and I really couldn't stop saying these things.

Honourable Mentions: Too Many To List

Despised Pokemon: Volcanion
Honestly, you could see this one coming too. We all know I don't like whatever this thing is. Volcanion, what are you supposed to be? Let me think of words. Mechanical cat with a donut cannon on its back? Yeah, that's the best description I can honestly think of. Aside from feeling ripped off of the much better Heatran, it just looks too stupid to take seriously. I mean, just look at that picture! Look at it! You can't deny that it looks silly, even if only a little. I just can't do it. I can't bring myself to like this thing, whatever it's supposed to be. I'm not gonna bother speaking on it, because I honestly feel like the more I talk about this mecha donut cat the more brain cells I lose trying to come up with clever names for it. I'd love not to think of red donuts - or donuts at all - anymore.

Honourable Mentions: Hoopa

Favourite Starter: Mudkip
So u herd I liek Mudkips? Well, you heard correctly. Memes aside, this little fellow has always charmed me, ever since I first picked up a generation three game. I've always found myself drawn to these ground hybrids, and Swampert made a powerful ally in battle, with only grass Pokemon standing in its way. As a youngling it's a charming and adorable little monster that warms your heart. As an adult, it becomes a source of powerful and strength, with a bulky figure that announces it's strongest traits simply by existing. Hoenn has my favourite starters in general, but I will always find myself inclined to pick little Mudkip.

Honourable Mentions: Cyndaquil, Turtwig, Froakie

Favourite Mega Evolution: Beedrill
Now, I've never owned a Mega Beedrill myself, but I've raised myself plenty of normal Beedrills, and I've found myself quickly charmed by the common and relatively unpopular bee Pokemon. There are so many mega evolutions out there of Pokemon who are already too damn popular, or already very powerful and commonly battled with on their own. I like the idea of taking an unpopular Pokemon, one who is usually not used in battle, and giving it a boost in strength. Trainers everywhere will give this beautiful bee a second look as they notice it's power, it's speed, it's battle potency. Stop beefing up the popular and strong Pokemon. Give power and love to those who most deserve it, like Beedrill!

Honourable Mentions: Sableye, Gardevoir

Favourite Legendary: Groudon
Yes, I stand by this rarely noticed gem. He is a terrifying and bold presence, a Pokemon that commandeers your very attention and holds it with a fierce, burning eye. I love this monster, the way he radiates power. He reminds me of a Japanese monster movie, like Godzilla, and I've always loved those sorts of movies. I look at it and wonder what the full extent of it's power it, it's force, and aura it radiates. What can this great monster do? It's a beautiful creature, a gem in the field of battle. If you've never fought with a Groudon, give it a shot. My Groudon has won me more battles against it's fellow legendaries than I can count. It's bulky, powerful, and can host some awesome strategies. Give it a chance. He deserve it.

Honourable Mentions: Cobalion, Zygarde, Genesect

Despised Legendary: Thundurus, Tornadus, and Landorus
I didn't want to mention Volcanion twice, as having that monster appear once on the list was more than enough. So I gravitated to these fellows, simply because I find them to be so silly. And not in a good way. It's the sort of thing that's a stupid funny, not an entertaining one. I do like their second forms a little more, and sort of wish those were their natural forms instead of whatever these burly things are supposed to be. They look like burly muscleman riding on Lakitu clouds. I like the concept, but the designs were just done incorrectly.

Honourable Mentions: Mewtwo
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Comments: 53

Shadow-Cipher In reply to ??? [2019-03-27 22:42:07 +0000 UTC]

*shrugs* I just felt like they weren't really all that fitting to the game they were in. They felt a little too last minute and none of their boss battles really felt all that unique to me. I know that's not saying much from a game where you draw circles around Pokemon until you win, but still... I just wish they would've had a little more time in the camera before suddenly being a thing. It felt far too abrupt for me to really put much merit on them.

But hey, if you like them, more power to you. I'm glad you can like things I don't.

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ShadowCrystalFox7 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2019-03-28 05:55:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, I agree to one point with the timing and I wish, they was more of them.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to ShadowCrystalFox7 [2019-03-29 02:29:21 +0000 UTC]

It's kinda hard to be invested in characters that appear at the last minute. Not impossible, but hard, especially in a game where there were already antagonists beforehand - not that the antagonists of Guardian Signs were particularly exciting, but they were there, so I kinda adjusted to them more so.

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replay398 [2017-06-10 01:37:37 +0000 UTC]

Do you think Barry and Bianca (B&W) are Cousins?

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to replay398 [2017-06-10 02:00:59 +0000 UTC]

I definitely think they're related in some way.

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replay398 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2017-06-10 02:03:36 +0000 UTC]

They are so similarΒ 

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TheRandom500 [2016-12-18 18:52:32 +0000 UTC]

Hmm cool choices, that and i like how your opinions where detailed here. Now that i think about it Volcanion is the worst event legend. Cause honestly it just feels like it's there i do like the water/fire gimmick but he shouldn't be an event legend. An event legend should be something out of the ordinary like Mew or Darkrai even.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-18 22:32:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you kindly. I tried my best to explain each choice, especially when focusing on negative aspects. It's sort of challenging for me to talk about Volcanion because it was just so very disappointing for me, and I feel like anything I say just comes off as complaining. I do greatly like it's typing, but it doesn't cause me to suddenly like it. Even if I did, I would still agree with the notion of it not needing to be an event Pokemon. It could've just been like Giratina in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (for one of many examples) where you simply had to put forth some extra effort to find it.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-18 22:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Aye tis cool, to be honest Volcanion been like Heatran a normal Pokemon you find in the post game. I honestly think Giratina is more of an event mon than it, then again with that mon you need to find it via lots of time and such.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 01:35:26 +0000 UTC]

That too is an issue. Heatran and Volcanion are quite similar and I find myself preferring Heatran in every way. I personally like how Giratina operates in Diamond and Pearl. Anyone can technically get it, but it requires the effort to find it and possibly either the knowledge it's in that cave or the sheer curiosity to explore a cave that could possibly have little-to-no payout.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 01:39:18 +0000 UTC]

Aye then again i am not sure how i even fought Giratina. Cause i do remember playing the game on holiday and bumping into Giratina by accident, but i am not too sure considering that in order to face it you need to know where you are going. As for Heatran, design wise i prefer it being heated metal, Volcanion is almost as bad as it cause it feels like the two are shoehorned into anything really. But i prefer Volcanion since it has more utility, either it's a huge special attack or a good trap setter.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 02:15:50 +0000 UTC]

I was just a nosy son-of-a-gun who pushed my way into every cave I saw because I had nothing better to do. So I found him and caught him, although I admit to doing it with a Quick Ball. It could be considered an accident, given you can figure that place out on your own, or just get lucky and pick the right paths. I've never been too into looking at Pokemon competitively, at least not deeply. If I can find at least one use on a team for a Pokemon, it's fine in a battle in my book. So me, I'd rather just use Heatran if I had to choose. In the end, though, I'd rather just not use legendaries at all, especially event ones. Even if they're not on an uber tier, it still feels cheap.

When it comes to, Volcanion definitely looks silly.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 11:09:35 +0000 UTC]

Aye it's cool, to be honest finding Giratina in the first place is pretty creepy. I mean you go to this place with the same music as the Old Chateau and really powerful Pokemon are fought there and the places really have a vibe of turn back now for your own good. Aye i mean is Volcanion a natural Pokemon or a mechanical one. Cause with a ring like that you would think humans made it but that's not the case.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 14:34:03 +0000 UTC]

I agree. I always liked to explore an area like the Old Chateau, not knowing if there's really anything there or not, and bumping into a legendary or otherwise rare Pokemon. It's exciting when you don't know something's gonna be there and you find it. Rotom too was an amazing surprise and it grew to be one of my favourite teammates. I'm not entirely sure about whether or not Volcanion is natural, to be fully honest. I think it might be a cyborg of sorts. Because it's definitely heavily inspired by a tank and shows to behave like a machine in certain ways, especially in it's feature movie where it made sounds similar to metal grating when moving. Yet, it's ability to produce hot steam is due to a unique organ it possesses which allows it to instantly convert water vapour into steam. I would like to believe it's a mix, half natural, half machine. That's just a theory, but I don't think there's any way to go beyond theories.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 14:38:00 +0000 UTC]

Aye that and honestly, Volcanion won't be expanded on after Gen 6 which is pretty sad. Aye it is nice to find a Pokemon not knowing where it is Rotom is a mon i have mixed thoughts on. On one hand i like how it has tons of forms but Wash Rotom is an eyesore since you will face tons of them online.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 16:01:32 +0000 UTC]

As much as I dislike Volcanion, part of me wishes it would've been expanded upon just so I could get a better understanding of it. Unfortunately, most event legendaries just got of fade into obscurity once a new generation comes out. Then, it's all about that region's event legendaries and what they do. Oh, I don't deny some of Rotoms forms can get annoying - though I admittedly don't play online much - but I personally love the concept and there are some forms I really love. My favourite is Mow, though I'm also a fan of Heat.

I don't have the patience to breed the specific natures and abilities on to Pokemon, so I tend to just go on Pokemon Showdown and simulate the battles.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 16:05:19 +0000 UTC]

Aye that,s cool honestly though i prefer competitive in the main game and not showdown. But yeah event mons are hit and miss i think the one i will remember most is Gen 4's and maybe 3. Gen 5 was okay but Gen 6's event mons are probabbly the weakest. I mean a supposed evolution to Carbink, a ring genie who could have had more potential and not Heatran.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 16:19:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I do too. I just don't have the patience. Showdown is definitely nowhere near the primary competitive, but it works for someone like me who doesn't want to sit down and try breeding hundreds or thousands of Pokemon. I sort of wish I actually was more willing to breed Pokemon and train up their EVs, but it's just not something I feel like sitting down and doing. I'm sure anyone who breeds Pokemon or EV trains can understand where I'd eventually get tired of it.

Sinnoh was probably my favourite generation all around and I was personally a fan of their event Pokemon. I didn't really get to use generation 6's event Pokemon very much, because I constantly missed out on the chance to own one myself. I saw them a lot while cruising around and learned how they functioned and what they did, but the closest I ever got to owning one was simulating them. Hoopa was quite a shame. I feel like there could have been a lot of merit to the guy, but he ended up unimpressive. I see that thing online a lot - usually by little kids who fill their entire teams with nothing but legendaries and a mega evolution - and it's never that challenging.

I don't own Sun and Moon yet, but I've read into all the Pokemon, and I'm sort of hoping their event Pokemon can give me something to enjoy. Marshadow personally has my interest, so I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being a letdown.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 16:22:10 +0000 UTC]

Thing is i am more of a Gen 3 fan, but that's fine if Sinnoh is your fave gen. The thing is i don't use legends since it's part of my code. That and well Legendary Pokemon are too strong in general. Aye hope Marshadow ends up being good or something that works.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 17:02:35 +0000 UTC]

Generation 3 has my favourite legendary, which is Groudon. Regular Groudon - I'm not a fan of the Primal Pokemon. I'm the same. I dislike using legendaries competitively because they just seem overpowered. Even if they're not in the uber tier, it still feels cheap. I'll just feel like I'm cheating whatever tier they are in. When I speak of legendaries I like and dislike, it's based more on physical appearance and lore than battle usefulness. I think the reason why Gen 4 is my favourite is because I'm a huge Team Galactic fan. Although Gen 3 is probably my second favourite. Marshadow has potentially, so hopefully it doesn't end up as a letdown. I always liked smaller legendaries.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 17:06:04 +0000 UTC]

Aye that's cool, then again i am a huge fan of Gen 3 cause of it's Pokemon line up. That and i like the idea of sea vs water, but i won't lie the primal mons and Mega Rayquaza broke the game to hell and back. I want to like Gen 4 like I am thinking of playing Platinum again someday and giving the gen a fair chance, cause thing is i used to like X and Y a lot but now i am not sure.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 17:23:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, generation three has some pretty awesome Pokemon, and it definitely has the best starters. I find I like Torchic, Treecko, and Mudkip. It's nice to see there are people who agree that Primal Pokemon and Mega Rayquaza are cheap. To be fully honest, I don't think legendaries should get mega evolutions. As such, I equally dislike Mega Latios, Latias, Diancie, and Mewtwo. I like the idea of megas, just dislike legendaries getting them. I think some of the weaker Pokemon should get them. I actually enjoy replaying games. It not only gives you a chance to try out new Pokemon, but to further experience the game. I find I often rush through these games the first time.

I'll be honest, I'm still not sure what to think of X and Y. There are some things I enjoy about it. The starters are pretty good in my opinion, Team Flare is pretty entertaining - by no means threatening, but more worth a good smile. It definitely set a new standard for graphical appearance and gameplay in Pokemon. But in the end, it just feel... I dunno... mediocre in comparison.

Like aforementioned, I haven't played Sun and Moon - though I did play the demo - so I'm sort of hoping it gives me a more clear thought about it. Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire were entertaining - bar the aforementioned primals and mega Rayquaza - and I know I enjoy them. But I do agree, X and Y is more of an unknown spot. I'm not sure whether to love to dislike it, so I end up being neutral.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 17:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Aye and honestly i am that kind of person who wants to see all Pokemon games as equal and the alike or at least the main games. I wanted to like X and Y since it was the first 3d Pokemon game since XD Gale darkness but at the same time X and Y felt rushed. That and X and Y was way too easy even for Pokemon standards, i do like the roster of Pokemon in X and Y i just think that story wise it took a huge step back from Black and White. Still i am glad ORAS gave us awesome mega's like Metagross and Salemence,Β  but yeah i somewhat agreed legends don't need mega's especially mons like Garchomp. Then again i am a huge Salamence fan and he became an Uber in Gen 4's meta.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 18:04:26 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! I don't really want to have a game that I dislike for the primary series. I'm totally fine with having mixed opinions on spin-offs, because you never know what you're gonna get when you make a spin-off, but the formula for the main games is very well set in stone and I enjoy the basic formula. As such, I want to enjoy everything. And usually, I'm happy, but it's always odd when you find something like X and Y that you aren't sure about.

I was a huge fan of XD and Colosseum and personally, I'd still love to see a game forgo the Gym Leader/Elite Four formula. But yeah, I get what you're saying. The storyline in Black and White, as well as the sequels Black 2 and White 2, were just more entertaining than X and Y. It's a real shame, because there was something to work off of. Yeah, Team Flare was silly, but for example, Team Galactic was sort of silly at first, but they managed to grow into a serious threat. And I personally enjoyed the story with Team Plasma and how they sort of regrew with altered goals. Team Flare had potential, and so did Lysandre, but they just sort of gave up at that point.

I was always a fan of the megas like Beedrill, Pidgeot and Camerupt. Some of my most loved Pokemon gained a whole new meaning with new forms and altered functionality in battle. I can accept pseudo-legendaries getting a mega form. It's not the best, but I'd rather someone like Salamence or Garchomp get it than another legendary. Legendaries already have the title of legendary Pokemon - they really don't need the help. Oddly enough, I'm actually a fan of Shelgon. I enjoyed Mega Salamence personally. My favourite mega was probably Sableye. I used Sableye back in Generation 3 and got a lot of strange looks for it, so it was nice for the little fellow to be given some boosts. Then again, even normal Sableye is useful now that it has Prankster.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 18:12:17 +0000 UTC]

Aye to be honest i remember Team Galactic for having a level 40 Wurmple i don't know just can't live that down. I think another issue i had with X and Y is it lacked good move tutors and the champion was a joke, I mean most of her team was weak to Steel get Aegislash and victory is already yours. That and i found Lysandere a bit of a Cyrus ripoff, i mean the other adaptations seemed to bring justice to him and the alike. I just liked XD and Colossuem for having a different feel to the games that is why i still have nostalgia for them. I think what i liked about X and Y was it was at least easy to get into the online battling side, but even then battles got samey with everyone running Talonflames and Mega Khan's.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 18:52:59 +0000 UTC]

The grunts had better Pokemon in Platinum. Not amazing, but better. I'll be the first to admit the Team Galactic grunts in Diamond and Pearl had really stupid Pokemon. But I meant more in their personality, named characters, and goals. Grunts never really had good Pokemon in a villainous team. That's the real only bonus I can give to Team Flare. The grunts at least had functional - something even evolved - Pokemon.'

The Elite Four in general was really easy in X and Y. I just rushed through the entire encounter without much of a strategy and it worked. She was pretty weak to fairy too. Actually, ice was her greatest weakness. She had a whopping total of four Pokemon who were weak to ice, those being Gourgeist, Hawlucha, Tyrantrum, and Goodra. Imagine if we'd had Alolan Sandslash. Haha! I went to the Champion with a Tentacruel and just tore the place apart. Blizzard, Scald, Sludge Wave, and Dazzling Gleam. No troubles at all.

By the end, Lysandre did start to sound a lot like Cyrus, which was even more saddening because I was sort of hoping he was gonna be different. When I first saw him, I was hopeful about where he'd end but, but he just ended up copying everything other people had said or done and had little-to-no original ideas of his own. Real shame. But X and Y does have that benefit, easy competitive battling - at least to get a battle. Everyone was really into it by that time, so there was never a shortage of battles. I disliked how cheap Mega Kangskhan was. It's a real shame.

I still own my copy of XD and Colosseum. They're just that great of games.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 18:56:57 +0000 UTC]

Same here i still own my copies after getting them years ago. That and another reason i keep em cause they are rare and part of my nostalgia. Another issue with Diantha is you barely see her, at least with Cynthia you saw her within the story along with Alder here and there. Wow now that i think about it Tentacruel can easily help you win the fight.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 21:42:38 +0000 UTC]

Same. I regret selling these games when I was younger, because I wish I had my copies of older games. Besides a copy of Pokemon Yellow, I don't have any of my older games any more. I still have my copies of XD, Colosseum, Pearl, Platinum, Black, White, Black 2, White 2, Y, and Alpha Sapphire. I've developed a hobby of holding on to them. I started buying one as my main game and then a second so I could constantly restart the game and play it a second time.

Cynthia sort of bothered me, but I can agree that at least she was present. I just wish she had fought alongside you against Cyrus or something like that, but she's still an improvement over Diantha. I think Diantha has one scene - if I remember correctly - in the Cafe, and when it comes down to it, that scene didn't really achieve much. If anything, that scene benefited Lysandre more than her.

Indeed so. He was awesome. I think the reason why that goes over so many peoples' heads is because of the Pokemon itself. Tentacruel was never a widely popular Pokemon and I feel like with all the new Pokemon, people would rather try out new ones than go back to something like it, especially in a new game with new things to try out. I've always loved Tentacruel. I tossed one in the team last minute and he really paid off.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 21:45:50 +0000 UTC]

To be honest Tentacruel was always a good Pokemon, it's just for some reason it's in every game. To be honest it is best to keep onto games as time goes by.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-19 22:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Tentacruel has always been a team favourite for me. It's a well-rounded Pokemon, very useful. I especially was into using it when I played Heartgold/SoulSilver - a game I totally forgot to mention when listing my owned games, as I have Heartgold. I was just idly surfing across the ocean trying to get to the next city and a wild shiny Tentacruel spawned. Since then, I always have caught and used Tentacruel, naming it after my shiny.

I sell nothing now, no matter how much I like or dislike a game. It feels a waste to sell the games, since you never know what could be of greater value as time passes.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-19 22:16:02 +0000 UTC]

Aye most agreed, to be honest i am not sure if i will replay Crystal some time cause honestly i am mixed on Gen 2. But i think i should play Crystal someday again to give it a fair shot.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRandom500 [2016-12-20 01:43:19 +0000 UTC]

Generation two was a rough spot for me. I was never a huge fan of the older generations, but Gold/Silver/Crystal was just a little left field for me. There were some interesting Pokemon from generation 2, but interesting is a more useful word than powerful.

I was a huge fan of Noctowl. It's become one of my best flying type Pokemon.

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TheRandom500 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-12-20 01:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Aye same, cause i want to get into Gen 2 i mean i like Sneasal and Tyranitar. It's just the main issue is most of the Gen 2 mons back in their day weren't as good as Gen 1 Pokemon. And furthermore they also had really stupid encounter rates, that and the leveling in the games are also a pain as well.

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Metaknightfan202 [2016-11-21 01:34:42 +0000 UTC]

I agree with Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs
It's the only game I have ever actually sold because I hated it so much.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to Metaknightfan202 [2016-11-21 01:39:09 +0000 UTC]

Guardian Signs was a letdown, especially coming out of the far superior Pokemon Ranger titles. I loved the others, so I thought Guardian Signs would be good too.
I'm glad other people agree with me on that.

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Metaknightfan202 In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-21 01:59:19 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 01:45:21 +0000 UTC]

Wait, why do you despise Lovrina?

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 01:50:03 +0000 UTC]

I dislike the overuse of the word 'so'. It just feels like an attempt to make her sound like a teenager, even though teenagers don't do that.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 01:51:28 +0000 UTC]

I don't think it was meant to be representative of teenagers - just of THAT particular teenager, Lovrina. XD

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 14:11:26 +0000 UTC]

I didn't mean all teenagers, but the more cliche approach. Regardless of what it was meant or not meant to be, I just get tired of hearing her constantly throw the word so into every sentence to the point of it being completely unnecessary.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 17:27:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they could have spammed it a bit less. But nonetheless I found Lovrina funny, and SO cool.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 18:03:05 +0000 UTC]

Haha! Clever. I found most of the admins silly in XD. Ardos and Eldes were the only two I could take seriously.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 18:06:06 +0000 UTC]

Well beneath her silly demeanor, Lovrina IS a super genius. But yeah, the admins seemed like joke villains save for Ardos and Eldes. And I couldn't even take Greevil that seriously.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 18:30:01 +0000 UTC]

It made them drastically harder to take seriously. To be fair, Colosseum had some silly ones too, but I have to give XD real credit. It's nice to see someone else who couldn't take Greevil seriously. I have no idea what they were thinking there. I give him bonus points because I couldn't take him seriously despite his Shadow Lugia being a far greater threat then the Shadow Tyranitar of the previous game.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 18:32:17 +0000 UTC]

Only Miror B. was purely silly back in Colosseum - all the others had something intimidating about them. And yeah, Greevil was ridiculous. Those stupid shades and those long buddha ears. XD Plus, he was so obviously the true villain from the moment he showed up as Mr. Verich. Evice was more of a surprise.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 18:55:35 +0000 UTC]

Miror B even managed to pass the radar for me because he was clearly intended to be silly. In XD I feel like the player was intended to take them seriously, which isn't easy to do. Everyone in Colosseum has some degree of a threat to them. Ein and Nascour were my favourites though. Yeah, it was pretty obvious Verich was the big bad. He just showed up out of nowhere with his bodyguards and had no other role besides that up until revealing who he was. Evice was simply a mayor, and kept fairly quiet and to his role.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 19:03:58 +0000 UTC]

He sure was, but then again, I think Gorigan, Lovrina, and Snattle were intended to be silly as well - the issue was that they things they were doing were serious things, but it was hard to care when they themselves were such outlandish, goofy characters. Ein and Nascour were my faves too, and I liked Evice in spite of his own ridiculousness (he seriously literally transforms, levitates of the ground, and TALKS IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS?) - Greevil just sucked. Even his turnaround in the end was bullshit.

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 20:34:45 +0000 UTC]

I don't mind silly characters at all, but I felt like every single admin should not be a total joke. If all the important people are jokes, how are we intended to take anything seriously? At least with Miror B he was the only joke and was easily the least important non-peon character in the faction. Everyone else took themselves seriously and could be taken seriously in return. Some of the characters in XD try to make you take them seriously, but you're too busy laughing to do so - looking at you Snattle. Yeah, I actually grew to like Evice over the years. I particularly liked the levitation. No idea how he does it, but it's pretty cool. Greevil's turnaround was a wasted storyline. I would've preferred something more like Evice. He never really changed. Even in defeat, he was still focused on his plan, trying to escape at the last minute. Not to mention Evice is a cooler sounding name than Greevil. Hell, I even liked his alias better. Es Cade was a cooler name than Verich.

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TheRisenChaos In reply to Shadow-Cipher [2016-11-15 20:38:01 +0000 UTC]

True. I think I can take Lovrina the most seriously out of the silly XD Admins because she is a diabolical genius and did some terrible things in her experiments, not to mention she was actually a bit scary in your second battle with her. Gorigan and Snattle were just total buffoons. And yeah, Evice makes for a lot of headcanon fodder for me - I would have preferred Evice and Greevil have been the same character, with Ardos and Eldes still being his sons. Team Rocket never truly got a replacement leader after Giovanni left, and Ghetsis lead Team Plasma both times, so why can't there be just one supreme leader of Cipher?

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Shadow-Cipher In reply to TheRisenChaos [2016-11-15 20:45:54 +0000 UTC]

I can agree there. While she's still kinda silly in the end, at least there's some merit there. We actually have proof she did something sinister. I have no idea what they were thinking with Snattle and Gorigan. Might say nothing at all. I was always curious about the idea or Lovrina and Ein possibly sharing studies with each other, since they both had similar roles in the games. I fully agree with you on that. I never understood why we needed a new leader. I might say bad reception, but that's unlikely given the very subtle hinting in Colosseum that Evice might not be the true leader. Then that makes you wonder if everything everyone did in Colosseum was a waste of time, both good and evil. What exactly was Evice's role if not leader? Where was Greevil all that time and what was he doing while his team was failing their initial approach? Why did he never step in? Ardos and Eldes being Evice's children rather than Greevil's would've made equal sense. He was clearly an aged man, so the two men could still be his children. You make a good point, every team stuck adamantly with it's previous leader no matter what, even when appearing in a second game. Team Snagem still had Gonzap as well.

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