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Description Showing my new set up with a Blender Render and the menu system (can we say click ANY where menu system)
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SiathLinux In reply to ??? [2007-09-18 07:16:22 +0000 UTC]

You won't hate it and there are programs (WINE, Cedega, and others) that allow you to run 'Windows' programs (including some video games!) (I'm having some issues on that though - as they are not written for the AMD64 version of Linux which is what I'm running.... there are workarounds, but I'm still learning how to do them.)

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-18 21:40:28 +0000 UTC]

Are these shell/translation programs also free?

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-18 23:11:59 +0000 UTC]

Cedega is $5.00 USD per month - or $55.00 USD per year.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-19 22:33:11 +0000 UTC]

Worth it?

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-20 00:46:47 +0000 UTC]

If your a serious gamer or just really need some newer Windows programs to run - then yeah - for me nah, not right now -

On a side not I finally have WINE working on my kids computer - it installed DAZ but for some reason it won't RUN DAZ yet... (I probably just need to set something or another in order for it to work {most likely something to do with how to do the graphic output of the program...})

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-20 01:30:39 +0000 UTC]

I hate to be a stooge of the establishment, but it really is easier.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-20 07:27:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah - but some are just so put off by Windows they will do anything NOT to use it....

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-21 09:42:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm heading that way myself.

BTW - Who are all these links in your signature?

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-21 17:41:09 +0000 UTC]

Two of them are my great Daughters ( :devDeviantlyEnlighted: and :devBlueSnowGeisha: ) - the rest are my faithful DA watchers (ie they are the ones that have watched me since I rejoined DA (long story but I was actually here back when DA was version 1.0 )

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-21 19:52:48 +0000 UTC]

Joy seems to be progressing nicely in the 3D. Raquel just needs to relax her mind while she's drawing, and let it flow.

I have one faithful watcher, the rest have left DA. So you can tell me what happened during the Jark incident? I've always been SO curious.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-22 00:49:24 +0000 UTC]

The Jark incident - well email me siathlinux@embargmail.com - and I'll get you a list of stuff that you can read to get an understanding of why/what/who did what and when.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-22 13:00:34 +0000 UTC]

Got it. Expect a markopolio@markopolio.com note.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-22 19:34:13 +0000 UTC]

Sending you an email

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-23 16:03:32 +0000 UTC]

Got it!

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-23 18:03:07 +0000 UTC]

Sent another one

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-23 18:34:35 +0000 UTC]

Got it!

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-23 22:51:10 +0000 UTC]

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-18 23:08:15 +0000 UTC]

Wine is free - a newer variant called Cedega is NOT FREE - (but it's less than buying a WinXP sp2 Home install disk )

I forgot the other ones name (never used it) but it's free...

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-19 22:33:46 +0000 UTC]

Free is nice... If it works well...

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-20 00:47:28 +0000 UTC]

sometimes it does and sometimes it don't (see other response.)

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-20 01:31:03 +0000 UTC]

I'm almost tempted.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-20 07:30:50 +0000 UTC]

Really the trick to using Linux for the 1st time - is to get a used computer - and install it on that (not on you main computer) - this way you can 'lay' and 'learn' without having to worry about massive data loss if you crash the system....

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-21 09:36:47 +0000 UTC]

Good thinking. Are the two systems at all compatible? Re:External drives, file sharing...

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-21 17:39:21 +0000 UTC]

File sharing between Linux and Windows - well - a .txt is a .txt whether it's on Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac - on the other hand .exe only works on Windows :/

but image files are interchangeable - most document formats are interchangeable - and most basic 'files' are interchangeable (that is to say if you created a folder/file on Windows or Linux - the opposing system would see it as a file/folder

External Hard Drive formatted with Windows would actually be the easiest way to move files from one to the other - as Linux has a way to read/write to those - and even easier if it is USB - as it will come up on the desktop - and then you 'mount' it and basically you can then go to it the same as you would a data CD/DVD... also browsing files in Linux is not that much different than with Windows....

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-21 20:00:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's my 60gig external hard drive. I backup to it, so it has essentially everything. Programs and all. Keeps things safe, and duplicated.

My main concerns are DAZ Studio, Poser, PhotoShop maybe, and SiteBuilder. Do you use Firefox, or it's equivalent? I've used so many photo editors that PhotoShop isn't as important. And since GIMP is essentially the same...

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-22 00:59:48 +0000 UTC]

I have 3 webbrowsers available to me on Linux - Konqueror, Firefox & Galleon I mostly use Firefox - unless the site needs Netscape (in which case I use Galleon) or if it needs IE (I use Konqueror - which can 'act like' IE 6 running on XP machine)

Photoshop - not on Linux - (not even with WINE) - however Gimp works great.

I've not been able to get DAZ working under WINE yet - but I think it's just a config issue on WINE...

SiteBuilder - hmm it might work under Linux - would have to check to see if it's been ported to Linux yet - and if so which version compliance (Red Hat, Debian, or non-RH/Debian)

realize that Red Hat uses RPMs to install additional software and Debian (Kubuntu is Debian) uses .deb to install ... all others do what is called 'compile from source' which I've been doing lately - due to wanting things not made for Debian - it's a pain in rear..

The best option is to have the best of Both Worlds - a dual Boot system ...

with Dual Boot and Wine - you can access virtually all programs on the Windows side of the computer and RUN THEM...

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-22 12:41:18 +0000 UTC]

On a dual boot system, it would probably be better to add memory, at least. I'm using most of my memory and forget about the processor. I run it at 100% most of the time anyway.

If Linux has a DOSBox type program available, one might be able to wrap PhotoShop, and get it to run. But GIMP, since it's easier to set up, and works...

I'm going to talk to my local hardware vendor. I'll see if he has a used system. Replace the fan, maybe the HDD. I could probably get by with spending $500. Sharing files would be a simple matter of a USB splitter to the external Seagate drive. And a bigger desk...

markopolio@markopolio.com

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-22 19:27:59 +0000 UTC]

I've ran a very nice dual boot on a PIII@450 with only 128MB Sdram before - it was Win98 and Fedora Core 4 - when running a dual boot - only one system boots at a time - the 'bootstrap' tells it which one you want to boot to at the time of boot up / reboot...

I found that LiLo (Linux Loader) was more friendly on getting Windows to boot up than Grub (no idea what it stands for).

So hard ware wise a Celeron 1.7 Processor and 512MB DDR with a minimum 80GB HDD would be a really good system....

I would also suggest on the Windows side (if you can find a copy) to use Win NT or Win 2000 (server version) - as these had the best results for Linux to browse -

Win XP - sometimes crashes during setup of a dual boot due to it's assinine method of watching for changes in the MBR...

When setting up a Dual Boot - ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Load WINDOWS FIRST.... or use two drives (if you do you could get away with a couple of 20GB drives)

ANY questions message me

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-23 17:47:38 +0000 UTC]

Reading the Linux site, it seems that I just might be able to do a dual boot. Hate to suck up even more RAM. I'm almost always at 60% used, minimum. Windows is SUCH a memory hog. All those crappy extras that nobody needs, just sitting there waiting to be used, sucking up memory.

How much of a partition do you think I need?

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-23 18:03:44 +0000 UTC]

What size of HDD do you have?

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-23 18:12:29 +0000 UTC]

80gigs total, with 17% free. Man, I gotta clean house! Plus I've got the 60 gig Seagate external. AMD Sempron processor, with 1gig RAM.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-23 18:20:34 +0000 UTC]

80GB with only 17% free = get another HDD (internal) for your dual booting... a 20 to 30GB would work fine...

Remember - when you boot to Linux - it doesn't boot Windows at all - so all resources will be free'd for only Linux to use.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-26 01:01:31 +0000 UTC]

Ha! Yeah. Hey, at least drives are pretty cheap these days.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-26 01:05:14 +0000 UTC]

a 20GB should be really cheap - being as I've seen 200GB for sell for what I paid for an 80GB 5 years ago.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-27 10:27:42 +0000 UTC]

I'm not even sure you could get a new 20GB drive. Storage gets cheaper by the day!

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-27 17:34:43 +0000 UTC]

Check [link] they have 'small' drives still available (limited amounts though)

Seems the norm is going to be an 80GB drive and average drive sold will have 200GB (which is what my system has in it)

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-27 21:57:51 +0000 UTC]

I just can't believe that a Terrabyte drive is less than $300! Amazing... And the price difference between 80GB and 500gb is insignificant!

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-28 00:24:00 +0000 UTC]

You must be made of cash then - No, really larger drives are getting cheaper - the issue is a 'new' drive in an old computer - well that ain't gonna happen... but, if you happen to find a 'newer' system on the cheap then it'll be good.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-28 09:55:40 +0000 UTC]

I have a budget, it always has to include computer hardware. I keep forgetting to stop in and talk to the hardware vendor. He usually has some used systems around.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-28 17:37:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no that is the place to get stuff - hardware vendors tend to 'take away the old systems' when they install new ones ...

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-28 19:59:03 +0000 UTC]

My guy is my hardware guy. I can call him up, and tell him to keep an old system intact for me. I can tell him I want to play. He usually has one or two a week come in that the person just gave up on. The last one I bought was used. The person had filled it up with viruses, and desktop utilities to the point where it would hardly run.

The only thing it needed was a memory upgrade, and a new fan. It probably didn't need the fan, but I believe that if you open it up, put in a new fan.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-28 21:47:36 +0000 UTC]

My kids systems are actually from a 'recovered' computer from a place that I used to work... All it needed was a ton of cleaning (and a case that wasn't ugly as crap) (course I upgraded a lot when I re-cased them - they each have about 5 fans (new) 512MB Sdram (they are only PIII systems) and better video cards (nVidia GeForce 2 MX/MMX 400) and better sound (Aureal Vortex A3d)

They are both running Kubuntu Linux now and they seem to run fine (although only one is up at the moment for lack of another monitor - one of them decided to start smoking - didn't think that was a good thing.... )

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-28 22:06:27 +0000 UTC]

Ha! Nooo, a smoking monitor is never a good thing. Come to think of it, anything electronic that smokes is probably dead. 5 fans! I figured three in each of ours was extreme! Ha!

nVidia! I went with the GeForce FX 5200 when I got mine... Over a year ago. I probably would get something with better on-board memory were I to do it again. At the time, I wasn't into much in the way of rendering.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-28 22:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Those computers only had a AGP slots (they were old)

I can't wait to throw a REAL vid card in this computer! (and I'm all about the vid card having its OWN MEMORY) I can't stand that this one steals 128MB of my precious DDR...

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-28 23:17:14 +0000 UTC]

This one is SUPPOSED to have it's own memory. But for some reason, my programs can't access it for rendering. For some reason, open GL is unavailable. I've never been able to figure out what's going on that makes it inaccessible. Tried updating the driver, that was all I could think of.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-28 23:18:56 +0000 UTC]

Which card? (ie everything you can tell about it - I'm a guru on making this stuff work.)

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-29 03:04:11 +0000 UTC]

nVidia GeForce FX 5200. DAZ, Windows, and seems like Apophysis all claim it doesn't have any memory. So I can't access the open GL.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-29 14:49:26 +0000 UTC]

If you running XP home or pro try 'rolling back' to the driver listed as 77.77 version.

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markopolio-stock In reply to SiathLinux [2007-09-29 17:21:40 +0000 UTC]

All that to discover that the open GL renderer just plain sucks! Thanks, and sorry to have bothered.

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SiathLinux In reply to markopolio-stock [2007-09-29 18:07:29 +0000 UTC]

lol - That's great! I usually render with YafRay (but for some reason it's not playing nice with Blender)

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