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(No longer true. G9 is now in presale.)
Those of you who have read some of my FAQ journal entries are aware that I often known things I can't tell, because the Publishing Partner Agreement at Daz3d basically contains a non-disclosure agreement. I can't discuss these issues until Daz3d has mentioned them openly, or risk losing my relationship with my main broker.
But as I understand it, I am allowed to discuss this today because it was mentioned on Daz3d's Facebook page (as well as on the forums). It's roughly that point in the product cycle where people would start saving up for Genesis 9, because we're approaching roughly the time span between Genesis 3 and 8.
Well, don't do that. Daz3d is not releasing Genesis 9. In fact, as far as I know they're not even working on Genesis 9. Currently their plan is to keep developing the technology of the program before they worry about making another figure generation.
And this is good news, and I'll tell you why.
Genesis 8 was not a big leap in tech from Genesis 3. They're practically the same figure in different poses. Even their base FBMs in the body pack are the same. The only real improvements are in Genesis 8's better facial expressions. The eyelashes are separate, but I don't know that this is an improvement for anyone but us content creators. This is not a V4 to Genesis gap. It's barely a gap at all.
So, rather than release a Genesis 9 that is basically the same tech with a slightly different shape, I would rather see Daz3d continuing the path of developing technology to a point where it's possible to create better, more lifelike figures. Because as much as I love Daz Studio, we are not at that point yet; as great as the devs are, they can only work so fast.
The second reason this is good news is that it gives us content creators more time to develop deeper G8 catalogues. Genesis 8 might well be the first figures to have as much content for them as good old Michael 4 and Victoria 4 (if not more!). And artists like me, who specialize in utilities, have more time to give you even more options for interconversion between existing figure generations.
Customers will have more compatibility options than ever before. And that can only be a good thing.
So don't get worked up over Genesis 9 just yet. Genesis 8 is here to stay for a good long while.
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SickleYield In reply to ??? [2022-11-30 17:38:23 +0000 UTC]
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Cosmics-3D-Angels In reply to SickleYield [2022-11-30 17:43:09 +0000 UTC]
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TheVertexDoctor [2022-10-23 15:34:18 +0000 UTC]
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DrgnMaster83 In reply to TheVertexDoctor [2023-01-15 04:38:26 +0000 UTC]
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inception8 [2022-09-23 13:39:06 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to inception8 [2022-09-23 18:14:48 +0000 UTC]
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inception8 In reply to SickleYield [2022-09-23 18:29:26 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to inception8 [2022-09-26 18:01:54 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to inception8 [2022-09-26 18:01:02 +0000 UTC]
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inception8 In reply to SickleYield [2022-09-26 19:18:47 +0000 UTC]
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HaraSurya [2021-04-07 06:50:56 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to HaraSurya [2021-04-07 19:40:31 +0000 UTC]
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TheVertexDoctor In reply to SickleYield [2021-09-05 23:11:49 +0000 UTC]
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quaPX [2020-11-04 23:53:52 +0000 UTC]
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Daveybird16 [2020-10-19 14:04:37 +0000 UTC]
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Crysis328 [2020-05-22 19:00:38 +0000 UTC]
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RavenDiablo In reply to Crysis328 [2020-09-18 22:07:20 +0000 UTC]
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Crysis328 In reply to RavenDiablo [2020-09-18 22:24:26 +0000 UTC]
i want highly detailed displacement maps to finally replace normal maps. This is the only way to make characters more realistic, yet they dont even offer good displacement maps for money. maybe gen 9 will have it.
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RavenDiablo In reply to Crysis328 [2020-09-18 23:01:34 +0000 UTC]
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Evil-WitchDoctor In reply to Crysis328 [2020-05-23 04:24:56 +0000 UTC]
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Xzenorverse [2020-02-19 00:44:26 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to Xzenorverse [2020-02-19 03:30:52 +0000 UTC]
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Metrocles [2020-02-15 11:28:34 +0000 UTC]
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ShadowRx [2019-12-31 04:07:42 +0000 UTC]
Good. Maybe they'll start converting features over from Bryce, Hexagon, and Carrara... would be nice to have at least some basic modeling tools and atmospheric effects for 3Delight or even OpenGL. Iray just doesn't seem to be worth the headache... hell, while they're at it, why don't hey grab one of the ray-tracing engines and add it as an option for those of us who prefer not to give nVidia $500+ for a new card.
The terrain, tree, and texture labs would be nice too.
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nimzomania [2019-12-06 21:03:11 +0000 UTC]
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LenioTG [2019-11-08 14:05:45 +0000 UTC]
I'm happy they've decided to follow this direction, and we've already seen some improvements in Daz Studio, while the Genesis 8 library grows bigger and products become more affordable. Nowadays I don't even need to use G3 products anymore.
Do you think they're going to update the OpenGL version?
PS: I know this is a old journal, but Google sent me here today xD
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SickleYield In reply to LenioTG [2019-11-08 19:58:29 +0000 UTC]
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LenioTG In reply to SickleYield [2019-11-08 22:26:20 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for your answer SY
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Playful3D [2019-10-27 22:27:19 +0000 UTC]
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Porkie-Rottenham [2019-10-09 18:15:27 +0000 UTC]
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RoaringTitan [2019-10-07 10:36:12 +0000 UTC]
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FritziesMag [2019-09-10 18:43:42 +0000 UTC]
Imagine how many official G8 figures and bundles there will be. I feel like I can already extensively modify G8 and G3. Both are still worth continuing to expand libraries for in a major way. This is exciting.
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dd2050 [2019-08-29 03:32:07 +0000 UTC]
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honormacdonald [2019-08-14 03:27:58 +0000 UTC]
Well, I"m late saying it, but good to know, thank you.
Clearly, I need to get onto DA more than two or three times per year >.>
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botdog3 [2019-08-04 10:49:11 +0000 UTC]
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SickleYield In reply to botdog3 [2019-08-04 21:18:55 +0000 UTC]
We all hope squash/stretch body physics are an end goal.
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RDP451 [2019-04-28 00:04:53 +0000 UTC]
I've always been curious as to why content for older Genesis figures suddenly dries up when the new figure arrives. Is it that the older figure gear doesn't sell or is the new stuff more compatible than I realize? Footwear never mixes well for me. That kinda bums me out when i want to use some awesome v4 boots on a gen 2 or even 3 and, can't find similar boots for the new figure.
I do want to take a moment to thank you for your years of hard work, great products, and tutorial vids. Switching over from 3 delight to Iray would have been much more painful if not for your videos.
(yes, my profile pic is still a g2m in 3 delight. No, I'll never change it)
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SickleYield In reply to RDP451 [2019-04-28 03:19:23 +0000 UTC]
You are very welcome!
Supporting a new figure is usually guaranteed income, because a bunch of people immediately start buying for it. The users of the older one that don't adopt at once often already have a lot of content for the older figure, and therefore they won't jump on new products for it as eagerly.
There's been more dual support for G3/G8 because that is easier for these two than any previous pair of generations (they're very similar to one another). Usually dual support is just not viable because it takes too long and time is money. So we then have to choose the old vs. the new.
I did not like Genesis 2 at all. I preferred the unisex Genesis 1 model. But I switched, because I knew that was where the money was. I did not really want a Genesis 8, either. I dual supported for a while. But again, new was where the money was.
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ProtocolZero [2019-04-16 00:08:39 +0000 UTC]
Awesome. Thanks for the info. If you have DAZ's ear, you might mention that improved dynamics, physics simulations (gravity, wind, particles, etc.), morph brush, and multiple/self-collision detection are all on my wish-list.
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SickleYield In reply to ProtocolZero [2019-04-16 06:46:03 +0000 UTC]
Oh, they know all of those things are on our wishlists. Because I nag them about it.
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Kat2107 [2019-04-12 07:33:49 +0000 UTC]
Genesis 8 is, let's be real, damn near perfect. So yay. Freaking good news!
Thank you! Let's invest some more into some real nice figures for G8!
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RavenDiablo In reply to Kat2107 [2020-09-18 22:01:48 +0000 UTC]
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fallenboy84 [2019-04-05 06:45:57 +0000 UTC]
Yaaaaay! I actually noticed tonight that my G3 Male catalogue is surprisingly smaller than G8Male. I was ecstatic over that, because that means vendors are actually paying it much attention.
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Estroyer [2019-04-04 11:33:04 +0000 UTC]
I haved stopped working on some characters because if G9 would come out, it would be this summer, so no use in investing in something that is soon labelled as older content. Glad to know I can take them out of their closet again!
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daveerwin [2019-04-04 04:26:54 +0000 UTC]
I still play around with Mil 3 figures because I've got tons of stuff for them. Still looking forward to Daz Studio 5. Always a lot of gosh wow factor to a full version release.
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ClockworkEros [2019-04-03 01:40:56 +0000 UTC]
This is great news! While the better expressions of Genesis 8 are great; Genesis 3 by no means obsolete. I'm not sure what they could add to a Genesis 9 that would be a worthwhile upgrade at this time.
They do need to keep the revenue stream flowing to fun Studio development, so I'm looking forward to some interesting and useful products along the way.
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SnowSultan [2019-04-02 16:16:27 +0000 UTC]
Very glad to read this too, I am quite tired of remaking my characters over and over and over. New Studio improvements would be better overall anyway. Thanks for this update!
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SimonJM [2019-04-02 12:24:56 +0000 UTC]
Make advances IN the program first: bug-fix and expand the current technology, such as dForce before more 'pretty new dolls'. I am, thus, happy to hear about G9's no-show!
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