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Published: 2012-08-10 02:21:21 +0000 UTC; Views: 5155; Favourites: 121; Downloads: 3
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Because a Noah and a piece of Innocence can't get along very well. Particularly when playing tug-of-war with a host. It may only be a matter of time before one gets rejected completely (and with Neah's little monologue last chapter, I think Crown Clown may get booted out first).D.Gray-Man Β© Hoshino Katsura
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Somehow I Can Imagine Them Fighting Instead For Allen's Affection Instead~XD
GOOD LUCK!
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Tug of war, Allen version!
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Hmm... Yes, I've been wondering how this tentative peace between Nea and Crown Clown has lasted so long. However, the only problem with Nea booting Crown Clown out is that it's actually keeping Allen alive. Without his Innocence, the hole in Allen's heart could cause some serious problems. (Then again you'd think it would ALREADY be causing problems. If Crown Clown is feathery outside on the wound Kanda gave Allen, it might be on the inside as well... *Shivers* Just imagining those feather-like tendrils in a person's heart....) D:
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That's a very good point, I hadn't even thought of that! You'd think the Noah regeneration would kick in at some point, but maybe the Innocence is interfering...(Yeesh, that sounds kinda painful...)
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Oh! That's right. I forgot about the Noah regenerative abilities. So that means Nea actually could kick Crown Clown out without it killing him... as long as he heals really frickin fast. (Just a tad...)
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Here's a theory: Neah can't kick out Crown Clown, because the Innocence has already gotten deep into the wound. It's influence is going to remain even when the substance itself is removed- look at that injury from the sword he gave himself. If that sword had been meant for flesh, he would've died. As it is, it wasn't stuck there for very long, and left a nasty scar. The Noah regeneration can't work on something that's been infected with too much Innocence.
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Oooh that could be possible. Tyki's wounds are having trouble healing, too, if I remember correctly, so that may be Neah's only restraint. Sounds like a good theory to me!
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It is only a theory, for all I know Neah's really just letting it stay so he can use it against the Earl instead.
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Yeah... it could be a mixture of things. 
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I think Nea's motives are a misguided sense, like he's not really evil, the thinks he's doing the right thing
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Exactly! I think he took the only options available at the time, and while that's gotten him into a load of trouble and depression now, he still believes so much in his goal that he's going to keep forging onward, even at the cost of his old friends. From what I gathered, he was actually kind of frustrated that he had to fight Allen.
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My Guess Allen will try to talk to him but Neah wont listen
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Or maybe Neah will listen but won't be able to find a loophole. But then again, maybe he will find some solution and run with that. I think Allen meant a lot to him back when he was alive.
Maybe the real problem is that Allen won't actually talk to Neah? I know Cross told him to talk to the Fourteenth, and Tyki told him to sort out what he was, but while Allen's been thinking 'maybe he isn't such a bad guy,' I haven't seen him really try to communicate. Perhaps he's scared that making that connection will break him anyway?
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yeah I think what Neah plans to do is bad, but Neah is completely oblivious of seeing the evil his motives are
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Ah, but Neah and the Black Order have the same plan: defeat/kill the Millenium Earl. They have different ways of doing it and perhaps different reasons, but they share that common goal. The evil is all in the eye of the beholder.
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I mean he wants to be the new earl and he thinks its a good thing, but I dont think he knows how much harm he will do to the world
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Or perhaps he wants to be Millenium Earl to change the direction of the Noah clan. Think- if Neah becomes the Earl, he could try to reverse all the damage done. He said the Earl had become a mad puppet of destruction or something along those lines.
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we will have to see
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The piece of innocense reminds me of Acid from MMSF3.
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Aha, i see it! But I think the Innocence is a bit more⦠I don't know, fluffy?
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I BEG TO DIFFER. :I Who's to say they won't magically get along in the end? It's Crown Clown and Neah. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT.
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I would be so happy if they got along! I love them both, I'd hate to see one kicked out.
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Indeeeeed. I feel like, there'll be some arguments in the future, but I don't really think one or the other will win. Allen will just be, screw you guys it's MY body. Tyki did mention learning to control the monsters inside a couple chapters back... LAST YEAR. ;;
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Maybe the entire function of Apocryphos in this story is to get Neah and Crown Clown to team up against a common enemy ('What? Hey, Allen's ours! Screw you, you can't have him!' or something along those lines)?
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That's a possibility but I'm more of the mind Allen is actually going to learn to control both, earning the Innocence's full loyalty and it stops telling Apocryphos where he is and earning Neah's respect so he's just, you got 'dis bro. The Innocence actually wants Apocryphos to find Allen so... Neah is also, I think, more of the mind of just cutting of the damn arm and being done with it, like Tyki. BUT. idk. Also, have you read the new chapter? 215 not 216 which is coming out September /sob
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That would be even better! (Though that whole "you got 'dis bro" made me laugh pretty hard when I imagined it). But I didn't realize the Innocence actually wanted Apocryphos to find him, I thought it was being forced to do that- it's been going into that feathery form I tend to associate with unsynchronized Innocence.
Of course I've read the new chapter! I really hope the next one comes out before I leave...
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Aha. xD Glad I made you laugh~ Well Apocryphos said the Heart was worried about Allen and that the Heart wanted their union, because let's face it at this point it's pretty damn obvious who has the Heart and omagawd Hoshino if you throw a loop in this my mind will be blown, but yea as far as I can tell the Innocence wants Aocryphos to find him. For me I feel like Allen's arm can turn that off whenever it wants so... Because the Heart is technically supposed to be more powerful, but you may be right. I've never associated the feathery form with desynchronization, so you may be on to something and I may have to rework my theory. BUT. The new chapter should be this September.
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You mean you think Allen's got the Heart? Dear god I hope not. My headcanon says otherwise and at a point in the anime the first time I watched it, I was getting some 'Mary Sue' vibes from him. Being the Heart would only enforce that and while I'd still love him, I'd like him less... The main source of my feathers=unsynchronized is the arc with Alma Karma, since Alma and Kanda didn't have complete control over the weapons back then, and when Crown Clown goes all feathery, Allen is very much fighting it.
I hope the new chapter gets translated fast. As i recall, the last chapter took forever to get posted.
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Indeed, Allen likes to have some Sue vibes doesn't he? I personally think he has the Heart, will end up getting it or has a connection to it. For all we know it could be a version of Innocence like Apocrophys... idk even know if I spelled that right. I DON'T CARE ANYMORE. /shot/ I think he tends to have those vibes just because of that polite mask he wears, but as he regresses back to his normal persona he let's off less of those vibes. For me anyways. Your feather explanation there had me come up with my own, I think that's when Innocence is trying to be activated and sometimes it's like screw you in the case of Alma and other times Allen's tied up with mystical spells or completely emotional screwed over. So both may be correct? I don't think Allen's unsyncho'd with Crown Clown though, he went over 100% and I feel may have reached 200% so. idk. Hoooopefully it does get translated fast. Depends on our translator's speed and time. ;x;
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I would like the connection option. Maybe it is like Apocryphos, if it's sending him messages the other Innocence isn't getting. But I would be sad to see all of the politeness go away- it may be the mask, but it's something that's been associated with Allen so long, it's strange to see him without it. As for the feather thing, that's a valid point. But isn't the very fact that it's trying to activate without permission rebelling against the accommodator and desynchronizing in that way? Heck, I don't know.
Chapter is out! But I'm still so terribly confused and sad! Tim better not die!
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I don't think the politeness will go completely away, after all he probably legit had that back before he was "Red" or "Allen", so parts of will probably still be there but he'll probably still start acting more like a punk around Kanda and certain others. The Innocence could be trying to resist Apocryphos and not Allen but as you stated, IDK. That chaaaapter. Month break yo. ffff. My theory is that Neah will rebuild Tim so. I AM DENYING HIS DEATH. Also. Allen got his Innocence some point AFTER Neah implanted his memory. There is no way that the Innocence didn't know this. Pretty sure anyway. SO. THEORY. Innocence can synchronize with a Noah. His arm turns into Neah's sword yo. IT'S A LEGIT THEORY I SWEAR.
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Informal around friends is completely fine by me, but losing it all would, again, be sad. Maybe if Apocryphos has some sort of connection to the Heart, it has more power over other Innocence, even to the point of destroying the connection between them (Cross and Judgement)? Oh my god, that chapter was awesome amazing and torture. I think somehow Allen/Neah will repair Tim... or maybe Road's hiding in that golem??? In all likelihood, no. Ignore me and that random theory. But I propose another theory for the Innocence! Either Allen had it already somehow or he came in contact with it after gaining Neah's memory. Long story short, the opposing powers didn't like each other, started fighting and had the result of forcing Allen's body to regress in age. It was slow, and only stopped when Innocence came to the fore when he as a 'child' killed Mana. Once the Innocence had the upper hand he began aging again. And for the sword, it was able to access the memories Allen had forgotten, and chose to form its new weapon after something else it had viewed as powerful: the sword wielded by both the Earl and the 14th. THAT'S MY THEORY IT SUCKS BUT THERE YOU GO.
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