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Dear Fans,
First I must apologize for my extremely vague status update I made last night I was very upset and I did not feel like explaining why I took down my oc video but in hindsight it only seemed to cause more confusion. For the past two months I have been receiving more and more negative comments and as I have progressed more and more into the school year I have felt more stressed and more depressed. And the reason I am bothered by these hate comments is not because they are something dumb like "OMG KILL URSELF" it's because most of them were usually well thought out. It's because they said things like "you make fun of kids" and "you are making artists feel awful" that made me feel bad about myself. I realized that some of the people who hated me were in the moral right of the situation. Here's the summary of why I am upset.
I don't want to be Leafyishere.
There are parallels between me and Leafyishere that people seem to notice that I really don't want to emulate.
-Being an obnoxious angry person
-Ranting on other people
-Having a cancerous fanbase
People always say I am rude, disgusting, and what I am doing is bad and I have started to believe them. Even as my sub counts grow I feel like my morals shrink. And the more I am told I am a bad person and the more I believe them the more I feel angry and upset. During this time I often get suicidal thoughts and I become extremely angry. And it does not help that I am constantly asked to review bad and stupid things that often make me feel even more angry about the world. That is why I am often obnoxious and rude. And I'm sorry I'm like that way.
But I have this terrible conflict. Because when I do things that are funny and don't actually hurt anyone like "Sparkle Twinkle Sprinkle Dinkle" and "The Edgiest Vlog on the Internet" and "reading bad fanfiction from fans" I feel better about myself and the people who do watch them seem to enjoy them. But those videos get barely any views. And it doesn't help either when people say "okay this was fun but make more Browsing Deviantart." But Browsing Deviantart has become a chore and each time I review stuff there I always manage to offend someone.
And many of you may ask "well why don't you review art from fans?" well that is because browsing stuff from fans is usually boring and to be honest it is really not fun for me. It feels like a chore.
The last thing is that I feel like I am attracting a very misbehaved fanbase. I feel like my entire fanbase is made up of 8 year olds who will attack other people I review even when I tell them specifically not to. And there are so many nuances and explanations in my videos that seem to fly completely past your heads. I once made a joke with the word "Autism" in it. And that joke wasn't even directed at anyone in particular it barely meant anything. And I got many comments saying things like "Do you hate autistic people?" as if they didn't even understand jokes at all. And in my recent "How to make an oc" video many of you got upset after I said things like "I think that having big eyes in a character is overused." When I specifically stated before that statement that "I do not think any of these traits are bad but they are overused" and some people interpreted that as "If you make a character with big eyes that is bad." Which is not what I said or meant at all. I know this might hurt you guys a bit but I am going to be honest. You guys can be really fucking stupid sometimes. And if you are offended by that statement than you can leave because I don't need people that can be so easily offended like that in my life.
These are my problems. And they all stem from Browsing Deviantart. This is why I think I am going to end the series. I know lots of people are going to unsubscribe from my channel but so be it. I have decided that I don't think I will permanently leave YouTube or Deviantart. I will still probably make videos related to Deviantart but I will no longer be pointing out specific users. Another reason I took down the "How to make good Ocs" video was because it had some editing errors and things I didn't like in it. I will probably re-upload an edited version of that video next week. But after that I think I am going to take a break.
Hopefully this explained things for you guys. I'm sorry for being such a fucking douchebag.
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iKunji [2017-09-03 17:37:53 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate that you're open about this stuff. Do whatever feels most comfortable to you, your true fans will understand. You may lose a few subs but personally, I'd rather not have a bunch of kids who are only there to encourage behaviors you don't approve of. Which, it's not all your fault, people always misinterpret my words as well.. It's just hard to understand others sometimes, ya know? Just do whatever makes you happy- I know I'll stay subbed even if you change the topic. The reason I'm such a big fan of you anyway, is because of your thought process.. You actually think about things, I respect that.
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OcMakerNub [2017-07-27 08:14:42 +0000 UTC]
Dude you are not a douche bag, if people dislike your bids and tell you bad things, we all know that they are assholes. Even if you remove the amazing 'Browsing Deviantart' you will always be in my top youtuber. I know that this comment won't make much of a difference but every thing counts in this world. You aren't a douchbag and you are a good person, and all the videos I have watched you do of 'Browsing Deviantart' I have noticed some really fucked up people, and the drawings they make are worse then mine. You are in all respect correct, and besides, any non teen shouldn't be on YouTube anyways. You are amazing and I hope you can die a good death, years from now. Please don't let these assholes and dickheads get to you. One day your biggest fan, -Me
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gabrielgameing [2017-05-19 19:42:56 +0000 UTC]
i feel bad now but when you need us we will be there for you
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JirachiAtSundown [2017-05-04 13:31:11 +0000 UTC]
Holy crap what is wrong with this fanbase
i don't care how often you upload Browsing DeviantArt, as long as you yourself are feeling better about doing it.
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XxGamerGirlxXD [2017-03-24 21:39:56 +0000 UTC]
Don't feel Sad Solar I love your content!
And for every hater you have there are 50 other people who like you stuff!
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DEM-Tec [2017-03-20 23:22:32 +0000 UTC]
too bad dipshit, your fanbase is filled with cringe hunters, unfunny assholes who are like goddamn hornets, like how trolls are like bees.
Trolls, like bees, make an actual benefit to this digital ecosystem known as the internet.
But you filthy fucking cringe-hunters make the internet an impossible place to live in, & you people serve absolutely no goddamn purpose here other than to cause pain & suffering.
I hope you like you life being the QueefyisQueer of this site, asshole.
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OcMakerNub In reply to DEM-Tec [2017-07-27 08:19:10 +0000 UTC]
Can't even think of a reply before dipshit (DEM-Tec) comes with another asshole comment to say*
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DaydreamDragon371 [2017-03-07 10:44:25 +0000 UTC]
I understand this is a tad old, and you have revived the series, but I have an idea: mayhaps you could do episodes similar to your reviews of WalkingMelonsAAA and the like where you go over some artwork of people you feel have talent and need more recognition, or maybe just browse artwork you find decent in general and give pointers. It'll attract less haters (though I totally agree with your stance on fetish art and recolors and such. The former needs to be labeled properly so minors can avoid it, and the latter is lazy and practical thievery), and give underrated artists more views: a win-win situation. ^_^
Stay strong, critiquing sunny hourglass man.
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Tiglillychan [2016-12-15 03:01:15 +0000 UTC]
I... I can understand. You're not a douchebag. I never thought you were to begin with. I agree, leafyishere is kind of a douchebag. With my favourite youtubers, i usually let them do what they want to do and i don't care. I'm sorry your fanbase is like this. I really hope things do get better. I truly do. I know this journal might be outdated, but whatever. I feel like supporting you, even when you don't feel like shit. Just... Don't listen to them. As long as you're happy, i'm happy, too. Thank your for spending your time reading this comment.
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MysticMewReal [2016-12-11 21:28:19 +0000 UTC]
Don't listen to them.
You need to keep making videos...
They're all just mindless bitches.
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AngieFuzzball [2016-11-27 14:09:09 +0000 UTC]
This just tore me apart. Why can't people just keep their mouth shut for once? Don't they now words can HURT people? Obviously not. Solar, I understand your choice. Iv'e been through something like this before. And can I just say, I'm here for you. You ain't making fun of anyone, People who make bad art are just attention seekers.
Some people piss me off, Including the people who say bad stuff to you.
Hope you are feeling better <3
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FnafXOfficial [2016-11-23 18:07:32 +0000 UTC]
Can I just say.. Leafy is great. and You are great. Don't change that for a couple kids..
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milkhorns [2016-11-20 10:46:13 +0000 UTC]
You're corageous dude!!
You intelligently say things that other people are too scared to say, and I like that about you.
Leafy also says things that others would be scared to say, but he does in a selfish, stupid way. You're trying to legit help/criticize and thats awesome : D
Keep your chin up! <3
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cloudvstheworld [2016-11-17 08:13:01 +0000 UTC]
welp, i am going to be honest -- i'm new here, i'm going to be one comment in a sea of what, nearly 400? but, i can understand what you're trying to say because the reason why so many people who are angry and like memes or make them -- we all make that joke about our Crippling Depression™. i guess that's true, haha. we find comfort in memes and anger because we're salty angry fucks who hate the world. it is fine to feel depressed and suicidal sometimes because anyone who only finds enjoyment in memes and laughing at "cringey" things probably feel that way too.
so, i understand, and even though i'm hardly even worth enough to approach you -- (ha, my self esteem is that bad) i'll wish you good luck for whatever mental illnesses through at you.
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Dead-Lee [2016-11-14 04:22:07 +0000 UTC]
I can't help but feel guilty in some way, although I have only ever messaged you once, and in a non-offensive way, and have never left a comment
maybe I'm biased, but I do not see you as a LeafyIsHere type person. I used to enjoy leafy, a lot actually, but at some point between then and now I started despising him. Yet, I really love your Browsing Deviant Art videos. I do not believe that you are becoming a LeafyIsHere.
And about the commenters on YouTube, the comment section is getting worse and worse. Maybe I'm being cynical, but everyone is so over-sensitive these days. It's easy to get to your head, and I don't blame you in the least for it.
i understand if you want to end your Browsing Deviant Art videos. I can't say I relate to the stress that you feel, but I support any decision you make. You shouldn't have to be unhappy to make others happy.
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KaraShickora In reply to Dead-Lee [2016-11-20 06:08:12 +0000 UTC]
I feel the same way ( ; o ; )
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snow-the-elementa [2016-11-03 11:55:17 +0000 UTC]
Okay so, fessing up, I think I'm one of the people he mentions in this. I only sent him a message once, though. I made the point of him possibly hurting kids because children who make bad OCs are still people. Little people, but people nonetheless.
It's horrible to see this and realize that I may have contributed in some way to your depression. I just knew you really are better than making kids afraid of drawing what they want. I wasn't trying to hurt you, and I'm glad you haven't done anything bad or permanent to yourself.
If you want to talk, maybe vent, just note me and I'll send you places you can contact me from. No one should ever apologize for being depressed, and I'm very sorry I contributed to your depression. I truly didn't mean to hurt you, I'm a big fan and you're one of the only youtubers I feel comforting bringing up grievances to. You seem to care what people think and you seem to take criticism gracefully, so I went for it.
I'm happy you're alive, and I'm so sorry all of this has happened.
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toodledeetoodledum [2016-11-03 00:48:25 +0000 UTC]
Take a vacation for a while. We'll find something to do in the meantime. Truly, I subscribed because of your voice. It was nice. I mean, I did like the part about browsing DA first, but then I just wanted to hear you. I've come to care less about content people put out, and it becomes just watching anything they create. So go ahead. Change your content if you want. I'll watch anything. Just remember, there are some people who REALLY do care and aren't here to see DA.
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SweetCupcake765 [2016-10-31 16:35:09 +0000 UTC]
<3 dont worry about the depression and sadness...just remember we are here to support you and give you a hug if you need one :3 <3 Just look at how many people love you! (as a friend or family) They dont want you to be sad, or unhappy...keep your head up and dont let anyone under your skin <3
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MalakMeowz35 [2016-10-30 22:20:52 +0000 UTC]
I know you're probs not going to read this but, if you truly want to leave DeviantArt or YouTube or even stop BD, go ahead. People won't unsub or call you a bitch or douchebag. We're human beings and we can understand people's choices. I'll be honest, your videos are like a getaway from my shitty life. They always make me laugh and smile. Also, DON'T commit. Taking your own life is the worst thing you can do. Welp. If you are reading this, stay strong
~Malak
p.s you're not leafy
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castermo23 [2016-10-30 20:24:03 +0000 UTC]
You probably won't read this at all but i just wanna leave it here just so i can help...
I'm not gonna be like ''OH DON'T STOP BD! IF YOU DO I'll UNSUB''. No. I'll respect your decision. You are human, and NO ONE deserves to feel like this. You are an amazing critic that only wants to help others improve and entertain your audience, you are not an a douchebag, you are not obnoxious angry person and you are definitely not LeafyisHere. Its kinda of sad really... your other Non Browsing Deviantart videos are also really funny, well made and charming for me.
Well... in other words, i hope your future gets to shine and that you get better soon.
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Dead-Lee In reply to castermo23 [2016-11-14 04:23:17 +0000 UTC]
You phrased what I was thinking perfectly. Thank you.
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castermo23 In reply to Dead-Lee [2016-11-15 21:27:59 +0000 UTC]
i just saw your comment and you phrased way better than i did actually XP
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Chara03 [2016-10-30 16:29:21 +0000 UTC]
Please dont stop browsing devianart. I just found your channel yesterday and what i loved its that it isnt satire and if it is YOU AINT LIK LEAFY BOIIII and if you have to go to school GO TO FUKING SCHOOL i dont like being the reason that makes you stop doing what you like. I think that your series are the most creative thing i've seen on youtube and if someone does it too i dont think they are as a good person as you. When i found your channel i was like "wow this person talks his opinion BUT not in a satire way" and you're probably thinking they're going to unsubscribe if i stop this NO i wont i fell in love with the way that you make videos. So please dont even THINK of killing yourself. I know what it feels like. You are precious to this world. You are a very kind human being. Haters are all over the place dont pay attention to them. They are just little pieces of shit that have a fetish that you atacked on the video. I know that you may think that they're very well made but here's a quote "people will try to tear you down because you're above them" thank you for readin this and remember
YOU. ARE. A. PRECIOUS. PIECE. OF. SHIT
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Pilot-Azure [2016-10-29 23:16:39 +0000 UTC]
While i do find your videos entering I have to say I much enjoyed that vlog videos and the videos that's aren't total related to devintART. Much more than your once juts criticizing art and stuff since I mean it just leads to like you said a bunch of people that flag and attack really is more just innocent people doing what they like sure the fetish art should be censored and such. But still the amount of comments those poor people get from your fans just hovering over them like hawk is crazy.
And I have to say its happened to me once on a different site because I have a different and more strange style people can't accept that cus I mean art is subjective and there is no real good or bad art its just how people look and interpret it. But Yea i like your videos Solar but your fans are just way to crazy man for some reason they think attacking people will make you like and notice them.
Your dA videos are entering but i find they lead to super rude judgemental people. So yea I will still watch your content even if its not dA related. Because you have a lot of cool stuff to say.
So yea maybe every now and than a DA video would be nice but I think you should do and talk about things YOU want to do and not what others do. BE SELFISH its not a bad thing and if you loose subs from it so be it they weren't real fans anyways.
sorry if I made you feel bad about your fanbase I'm sure not all of them are like that its just those people are the most common because there the loudest. I mean I've never attacked one of the people you have made a video on so I'm sure there are a ton of nice people like me in it as well.
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jood55 [2016-10-29 20:47:26 +0000 UTC]
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The-Squeege [2016-10-29 15:10:43 +0000 UTC]
I'm really sorry this is happening. It really shouldn't be, you're just giving your honest opinion and people are treating you like shit for using your own voice to give your own opinions, and that sucks. I know there are a lot of people who appreciate you and your videos because of your opinions and your honesty. I'm sorry that it had to happen like this, some people just can't handle real honesty and individual voices. I really hope you feel better, and I hope you know that people are only hating on you because you're not afraid to voice your honest opinion, and the fact that you do that is amazing. Feel better, and don't get down because you have haters- having haters just means that you're doing something right, even if it doesn't always feel like it. Please don't feel bad about yourself, you're awesome and not afraid to give criticism. Be who you are, do what you need, and don't let haters get you down. Feel better!
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hypersonic6 [2016-10-29 14:48:18 +0000 UTC]
You might be an asshole at times, but that's what makes your videos entertaining. It's okay dude. You're just going through something that everyone experiences in their life. Hope you feel better.
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Englahimla [2016-10-29 11:03:48 +0000 UTC]
One thing i think you should do is review some good artists sometimes, or just try and point out more good stuff in peoples drawings?
Still, personally I think you're one of the best youtubers ( especially when you give real constructive criticism which you always do ).
Anyways, if you don't want to continue the series, that's your opinion and I respect it.
^^
I'd still watch your other videos.
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GiraffeSalad [2016-10-29 02:59:07 +0000 UTC]
The people who seem to say you are bullying kids just dont get that you are actually giving them critique to help them improve. They need to get the drift of your channel and stop being so butt hurt.
You are nothing of the sort like a leafyishere. Leafy targets people and actually says rude things about them, without anything constructive. Just a shit load of bs that comes out of his mouth, compared to your helpful critiques. I see no resemblance.
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unluckmi [2016-10-28 22:18:25 +0000 UTC]
Stay cool dude, don't get stressed. Take your time, eat some tasty food, and if it helps really just ignore everything. Sometimes shutting yourself down is really helpful (you still need to talk the bad stuff to someone to get it out of the system) but really it helps, it'll keep you a little bit relaxed and chill. That's my advice
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JoyToyEntertainment [2016-10-28 21:49:27 +0000 UTC]
Solar, I believe you're a good guy, sure you might be harsh, but it's not exactly you that gives off the bad image, it's mostly the fanbase behind it and how they never learn or manage to grow up.
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OmutsuOtakuSkymin [2016-10-28 21:41:07 +0000 UTC]
You're fine Solar Sands. Leafyishere is a drama whore and a sellout, you are nothing like him.
Please don't change your ways because of butthurt little faggots. Just because somebody is a kid doesn't mean they are immune to criticism.
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kirogaraii [2016-10-28 21:27:14 +0000 UTC]
I think your critique can be useful and entertaining. It's truly sad that people on the internet keep on trying to make themselves look like victims and call you out with rumors for a simple joke. Hope you're gonna be happy with what you're gonna do next tho, im gonna stay a fan.
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XxcoloredxX [2016-10-28 19:40:58 +0000 UTC]
Ugh . your vids are not hate
It your opinion and it your right
Don't let MFs drag you down
Let them know what "REAL ART" IS!!!
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OhMyNyas [2016-10-28 15:56:17 +0000 UTC]
Okay, you are not f*cking rude, okay? Nor a douchebag. People just act like a**holes because they can't take criticism. Sorry for cursing.
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TatoDragon [2016-10-28 15:38:09 +0000 UTC]
There's no reason to quit just because a few people can't tell the difference between criticism and hate. Quitting is what those people want you to do. I'm not even sure how you can compare yourself to Leafy. He makes jokes about the kids he comments over, sometimes being a bit too harsh for a kid to handle but all you're doing is saying what you think and giving tips on how they could improve. If you really want to quit, that's fine but quit because you want to, not for a few overly sensitive people.
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Mittz-The-Trash-Lord [2016-10-28 05:36:06 +0000 UTC]
Fuck those people. They can't push you down like this. You make those videos for a reason. And if they can't handle any criticism, then that's their problem. Although you may act like a complete ass sometimes, I still like you because you're just a really relatable guy. Sure, you're harsh, but you're fair too. And that's why I watch you. ^^
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Mindythehuman [2016-10-28 03:48:53 +0000 UTC]
Solar,you aren't RUDE some people get butthurt when you are specifically criticising. You shouldn't have suicidal thoughts cause...your fandom really does love you, the only reason people attack the ones you 'Rant' on is because they feel the need to do anything for you,don't call yourself a douchbag either, and you never were like leafy from the start
If you read this thank you,no need to comment just..feel good...think of encouraging thoughts from yourself or your fans
Sincerely Taffy the bunny (AKA SOLAR SAND FAN)
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bloodblueroses [2016-10-27 23:48:25 +0000 UTC]
Hey Solar? A lot of people may dislike you, but think of all the people who do love you! I do! A lot of people hate on major channels too... Because the haters are clinging to a desperate thread, doing what they can to get subs. Remember this!
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DrGalaxySocks [2016-10-27 23:32:38 +0000 UTC]
Solar.... It's better that you give constructive criticism than having the kids not know what they are doing wrong. It's better than mindless compliments, or worse, a troll. Don't put yourself down because you are trying to help these artists improve.
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PinkHairedFreak [2016-10-27 19:13:16 +0000 UTC]
Maybe you should put a disclaimer in the beginning of videos that say it's meant as constructive criticism and not hate? Also, I believe that for every review that may not be nice you could point out something good about the drawing which, you kinda already do, but IDK maybe people will like it better? And also, you're not Leafy, because you don't say "fucking" every 5 seconds and you're actually funny.
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DoodlyDoodles [2016-10-27 18:02:59 +0000 UTC]
We totally understand and there's no need for you to apologise. Just do what makes you feel better.
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IndicoliteFluff [2016-10-27 10:29:36 +0000 UTC]
No need to apologise, you're no douchebag, all of your points within your videos make complete sense.
Your videos are your choice, and creating them should not feel like a chore. Nobody can force you to create certain videos, it all up to you.
If you are scrapping the browsing deviantart series all together because you no longer feel comfortable doing so, I understand. It is your channel.
Thank you for explaining, I was quite confused with the update you had left, and it really worried me. Glad to see that you're okay!
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DeadACCNoteForNewOne [2016-10-27 10:08:04 +0000 UTC]
I'm fine with any decision you take, it's your channel. And as a fan, I will like anything you do.
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xToastedMarshmallowx [2016-10-27 02:27:11 +0000 UTC]
Oh solar.
Please understand that the 8 year olds will be 8 year olds. Maybe when you make videos related to DA don't mention the artist's username.
But honestly, I love your videos and I know that a lot of other people do too.
Most people can be mature, and accept your choice gracefully, but a lot of people act as if they are 6 and want everything done their way. Understand that people can be mean out there. Just because the way you look, act, speak, anything.
Most youtubers get hate on everything that they do. All of their videos at least get 1 dislike or comment that says, " OMG YOU SHOULDN"T HAVE AN OPINION JUST BECAUSE I LIKE THiS FANDOM AND I THINK I'M A KING/QUEEN SO I CAN DO ANYTHING TO YOUR VIDEOS AND PERSOnaL LIFE!!!!"
Just know that you aren't a bad person.
A lot of people support your opinion
Hope ya understand, buddy.
~xToastedMarshmallowx
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CervineBlue [2016-10-26 23:08:58 +0000 UTC]
We all do our best to make a difference in the world, or we should, and you are certainly someone who is doing your best to do what you do. To the point where it's negatively affecting your physical and mental health. Critiquing artwork (HONESTLY) to help others improve is not something you see often anywhere. Some people say you're too harsh but after watching nearly all of the Browsing Deviantart series, you're merely giving your opinions as a human being should be allowed to do and giving pretty good advice for those with potential that you can see to improve Unlike most people who criticize artwork, it's good-intentioned and entertaining and honestly from where I'm standing. You and everything you do is important and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. They don't know you, you know you.
Sorry, I meant to keep this short, oops!
Just keep doing you, Solar, and I promise there will always be people who will support you for doing just that <3
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