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Well I tried, but I couldn't find any Anti-Human Names stamps anywhere. I guess that's just how popular they are.I'll be completely honest with you all. I absolutely dislike the human names in Hetalia. I will admit that some are clever. Ludwig is a good German name and Arthur especially is perfect for a typical British name. However, the reason why I was so attracted to Hetalia in the first place was that it was about the countries depicted as people. That's why I find Hetalia so fascinating. I feel like the human names just ruin that. They're countries, la~! I don't live in the United States of Alfred.
That being said, I wouldn't really have a problem with the human names if they were more like undercover names (like in HetaOni) and NOT their real names. That would be more interesting, to be honest. However, there are a few names that I absolutely dislike. For instance, though the name "Francis" sounds more like "France", it's actually not a French name. o-o I'd prefer something like "Jaques" if he were to choose an undercover name. That'd make more sense. Another name that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is "Alfred". Seriously? If this is a show about stereotypes, this is a terrible name for America of all characters. For one, Alfred is the name of Batman's butler (note: America likes to dress up as Batman, not his butler). Secondly, Alfred is stereotypically a nerd name. This name certainly is not for the "hero" if you ask me. I don't want you to think I have a thing against the names themselves. I just don't think those specific ones suit these characters.
Also, one thing I've discovered recently is that the reason why Himaruya gave certain countries names in the first place was because it was a request. He didn't do it because he felt like he needed to (from what I heard, at least). So the names aren't even canonical at all. Someone asked him what he would name them if they were people, and he gave a select few fake human names. Kind of like when you ask your mom what she would have named you had you been born the opposite gender. That does not make that name your name. It's silly.
I feel like I said enough. Feel free to use this stamp if you are one of the few Hetalians out there who supports the countries as countries.
P.S. I also don't want you to think I have a thing against Hetalians who do like the human names. I have friends who use them. I, however, just don't like them. So just a warning, try not to use them with me. I won't really understand you. There are a few that I know, but a lot confuse me.
P.S.S MY FIRST STAMP AND GIF! Yay me!
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Comments: 92
TheReapersApprentice In reply to ??? [2017-12-31 22:28:38 +0000 UTC]
Doesn't change the fact that I don't like it nor does it fit him imo.
It's all good, thanks for your input!
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Cringinqq [2017-09-09 03:53:15 +0000 UTC]
this may be old, but i agree. It got too confusing. remembering the country names is easier. adding human names confuses me.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to Cringinqq [2017-09-09 04:44:00 +0000 UTC]
It's never too late to add a comment!
Yeah, I'd just rather keep their names as they are. The show is about countries, so...can we keep it that way maybe? ;7;
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Cringinqq In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-09-09 04:44:36 +0000 UTC]
yeah. i agree with you on that ;w;
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darkfrost-star [2017-08-09 19:05:56 +0000 UTC]
My least favorite human name in Hetalia is Norway's usual human name, Lukas Bondevik. I get the Bondevik part because it is a Norwegian last name but Lukas isn't a Norwegian name . I wish that people would use Bjorn a lot more often because that is actually a Norwegian first name.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to darkfrost-star [2017-08-10 03:39:40 +0000 UTC]
You know, before I finished reading your comment I thought, "they should use Bjorn." Then I saw you thought of Bjorn, too, and am now very proud of you. Of course, I'd only ever accept it as an undercover name, but Bjorn is just...it's like the Scandinavian name! Perfect for Norway.
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darkfrost-star In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-08-10 05:21:04 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I'm actually neutral to human names in Hetalia, btw, I just usually refer them to their country name. But I still think that Bjorn would work a lot better than Lukas.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to darkfrost-star [2017-08-10 14:47:16 +0000 UTC]
I'm just so picky about only using their country names cuz that. Is. Their. Name! xD But despite that, I 100% agree with you on Bjorn.
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darkfrost-star In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-08-10 18:09:45 +0000 UTC]
I also have a similar problem to Iceland's fanon human name "Emil", Emil isn't a Icelandic name, as a matter of fact the name's origin is Latin (ironically enough, Lukas is also Latin-based but spelled in a Germanic way), and it's just ridiculous that the personification of ICELAND doesn't have an ICELANDIC NAME but instead has a LATIN NAME?! WHAT?!
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to darkfrost-star [2017-08-11 01:05:55 +0000 UTC]
Yeeeahh...some of those names just...why? Did those people, fans or Himaruya himself, put no thought or research into those names?
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darkfrost-star In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-08-11 03:32:38 +0000 UTC]
IKR? There's so many awesome Nordic names, yet people give Norway and Iceland Latin names. -.-
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to darkfrost-star [2017-08-11 04:12:29 +0000 UTC]
Such a shame and a waste.
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YoBro9000 [2017-07-23 15:57:59 +0000 UTC]
i like the human names kinda (i sort of have to if i read fanfics) but there is one name that TICKS ME OFF TILL I SCREAM
that would be japans first human name, kiku
kiku is not as much of a "unisex" name as it is pretty much an entirely female name. eventually i ended up using my own name when i rp
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Dumuzinky In reply to YoBro9000 [2017-12-30 19:58:06 +0000 UTC]
www.babycenter.com/baby-names-…
Unisex actually, not just a girl’s name just thought I’d point that out. It is indeed both.
Who cares is the name is usually used for girls anyways? Plenty of girls names were originally for boys only till later they get popularized as a girls name.
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YoBro9000 In reply to Dumuzinky [2018-01-01 01:36:16 +0000 UTC]
I doubt Babycenter is that much of reliable source (then again, neither would Behind the Name)
I think it matters because there is practically no place besides anime that a man is called Kiku. If there is, it would be nice to see
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Dumuzinky In reply to YoBro9000 [2018-01-01 01:40:23 +0000 UTC]
It’s probably just uncommon name but it does happen from time to time..
nameberry.com/babyname/James/g… James, a typically male name was popular for girls back in the older days actually.
Kiku is cute for a boy and for a girl, so I’m not sure why it’s such a problem for you but perhaps try to be more open minded? No offense or anything just stating my two cents..
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YoBro9000 In reply to Dumuzinky [2018-01-02 04:40:32 +0000 UTC]
No worries. It's more that it becomes concerning when people think it is only male, which is becoming less common. I alologize for being so adamant on my position.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to YoBro9000 [2017-07-23 18:51:43 +0000 UTC]
I didn't know it was a female name, but I was always curious as to how to pronounce it. In Japanese, vowels like i and u are often silent when in between soft consonants (such as p, k, and s). So would it just be pronounced "Khkh"? O.o
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Dumuzinky In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-12-30 19:58:59 +0000 UTC]
www.babycenter.com/baby-names-…
Actually it’s both they were incorrect, to be frank, a lot of girls names today were originally males names..
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YoBro9000 In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-07-24 20:50:03 +0000 UTC]
n-no, definitely not.
it would not for those, as they are not voiced, and the only parts ive sen that happen are in s, sh, or tsu. (never have i seen a contracted "ki" to "k", only "shi" to "sh". but theres probably more im forgetting. but definitely not k.)
i dont know if IPA symbols show up here, but in case they do, its something like /kikɯ/, which is somewhat pronounced "kee-koo"
not only this, but everywhere ive looked except for the hetalia wiki says it is feminine, while the hetawki says it is unisex
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to YoBro9000 [2017-07-25 02:05:03 +0000 UTC]
Hm...true...about the "i", I suppose. A "K" would definitely make the "U" silent at the very least. So it would make more sense for it to be "Kikh". "Keekoo" definitely sounds better, although it doesn't comply to the rules...either way. It shouldn't be Japan's name for his name is...Japan.
Curious, though, what name did you chose for him?
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YoBro9000 In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-07-25 02:41:07 +0000 UTC]
the u is not dropped entirely. it is shortened at most.
also the name i chose was ryuunosuke, which looks hard to pronounce but isn't if you try hard enough
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to YoBro9000 [2017-07-25 15:00:12 +0000 UTC]
Mm...true...it's just so shortened it sounds silent.
Oh no, I get it. It's cool! How did you decide on that name?
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YoBro9000 In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2017-07-25 16:48:38 +0000 UTC]
in a way, i suppose so.
i was looking for another name on a name website thats really good and i found ryuunosuke.
(i gave him a different last name too, which kinda worked. doing stuff like this is common for people doing roleplay)
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to YoBro9000 [2017-07-25 22:59:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh ok. It sure sounds cool!
It's pretty fun coming up with names, huh?
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felicianose-art [2016-12-31 06:46:54 +0000 UTC]
Lately, I have been growing to strongly dislike the name "Lovino" for Romano. It is not a real name, it means "the wine" in Italian, and the Japanese variant, "Rovino" means "I ruin" in Italian. If you ask me, "Luigi" would make a better human name for him and I heard "Lovino" is like a nickname for Luigi.
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darkfrost-star In reply to felicianose-art [2017-08-09 18:59:04 +0000 UTC]
And then Northern Italy can be named Mario so then the Italy Bros can be like the Super Mario Bros XD.
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tissuepaper4 [2016-12-25 05:35:21 +0000 UTC]
I only use human names in Human AUs, or like what you said, as undercover names.
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ufd [2016-06-07 04:12:51 +0000 UTC]
I like to think of the human names as undercover names. As for Alfred, while it may not be common today, it used to be a common name at one point, particularly during the 1800's, early 1900's and during the colonial days as well. It's an Anglo-Saxon name, so it makes sense it would be common during a time America was under England. This especially makes sense to why Alfred would be a smart choice for America. America isn't just living today, he lived for over 300 years and a century and a half of it was under English rule. If we were to go with the idea of America having an undercover name, wouldn't it make more sense for his name to be something that was given to him as a colony by Britain? Better yet, wouldn't it make sense for America to choose a name that was common during the time period of the American Revolution?
Not to say I don't see your point, I do. Francis isn't really a good name for France and was probably assumed to be French (it's more of a European name, I think). That being said, there are names I do see fitting the countries and I do see Alfred being a fitting name for America. Sure, it's not a common American name in this day and age, but it was at a time when America would've been given a name, if using the undercover name headcannon. It was especially common during World War 2 and where does Hetalia: Axis Powers commonly focus on? My point exactly. Hetalia hardly focuses on the things of what happens today. It focuses on history and so it only makes sense Himaruya would choose names for the fans that would fit the timeline they would've been given the name.
Are they perfect? No and I do see your point and agree with you. Though, I've always found Alfred F. Jones to be a really smart name for America and it is because of what I had mentioned. It was common at a time when America would be given a name from Britain or himself during the time period Hetalia commonly focuses on, World War 2. Here's some references:
www.ssa.gov/oact/babynames/dec… Alfred was number 90 on most popular names during the 1940's with 31,989 males named this and this is universal.
www.behindthename.com/name/alf… This shows the graph and shows the decreasing number of boys named Alfred during the 1930's.
With that said, as I mentioned, I do agree about the human names thing. They're only fan names and nothing more. I just wanted to bring this bit out, since you mentioned your dislike for the name Alfred for America being a bad name. It's a small thing to nitpick about, but I did want to bring out my take on the name and honestly, I love the name Alfred for America. It's not a common name today, but it's expected, in my opinion, for Alfred to have a name that was common during early America. I don't think it'd make any sense for a country to be named something that wasn't popular during its early stages.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to ufd [2016-06-07 05:04:26 +0000 UTC]
Hm, well you certainly make a good point. I mean, I've always liked the idea of "[A-name] F. Jones" but not particularly the "Alfred" part. My original argument would be that, if they were undercover names, wouldn't he want to change it to fit with his timeline? But I see you have already covered that by bringing up the fact that the majority of Hetalia does in fact take place during the 40s in which Alfred, as you have shown, would be popular. However, it's all the way down at 90. That's not really high...That being said, though, it being on number 90 wouldn't really bother me so much if it weren't for the fact that Batman's butler is named Alfred and America likes to dress up as Batman. So that still gets me. xD Not like it's a big deal, but still.
Also, them being undercover names, I more imagine the countries giving themselves their own names, so England wouldn't be the one to name America. But that's my own view on the whole thing.
To be fair, though, I guess I can understand a little more why his name would be Alfred, now, but I still can't say I'm super big on the name. Either way, I guess you've convinced me to not hate it as much.
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ufd In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2016-06-07 06:30:22 +0000 UTC]
90 is still up there, because there are over 200 of popular American names at the time that were common, so even being placed on 90 is still far up there. As for Britain giving America an undercover name, I was talking about if we were to say he was given one as a chibi, because guardians often give names to their children, unless they want the child to choose.
But yeah. I suppose it is the same name as Alfred from Batman. I would say that America gave himself that name Alfred before Batman existed. Again, 1940's. This would be the Golden Age of comics when Batman first started and the butler wouldn't show up for another several issues. I don't think America would change his undercover name just because it's the same name as Batman's butler. In fact, I'd think it'd be in character for America to find it awesome that a character from one of his favorite comics has his human undercover name. It may even be how he got into Batman. I got into a book when I found out a character had my name. I also read poems by a poet that had my name.
I'm glad I made the name seem more likable. I like that the name is one that would be common at the right time period it needs to be. If I was to think of human names for each country, I'd expect it to fit the common timeline. Alfred and Arthur are names that fit. Arthur is timeless and Alfred was a common name in early American history.
Now, the headcannon I use for human names isn't undercover. It is cannon that the countries did start out as normal humans before being declared countries. They can also revert back to humans like Nikko-Nikko did. So, the human names were the countries' original names before becoming countries and only use them, if among close friends or other humans without being identified as countries.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to ufd [2016-06-07 21:59:45 +0000 UTC]
I guess that's true.
And yeah I can also kind of understand England giving him that name, because I lived in Hong Kong for a long time and they all have their real Chinese names, and sometimes their parents will give them English names, as well. Though if not, they'll be given an English name by their teacher in school because you know...English. And Hong Kong being once a British territory. Either way, I can still see them choosing their own UC names.
Haha and there's another good point. xD When was Batman created, speaking of which? Do you know? O3o
Yeah I can't disagree that Arthur was a perfect choice. xP
Ooooh okay I can understand that. But like...what about their real parents, then? o0o I'm just a deep thinker sometimes. xD I still view them as rarely used UC names, but it's an interesting headcanon, either way.
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ufd In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2016-06-07 22:26:18 +0000 UTC]
I agree.
May 1939. Googled it.
I would think the real parents raised that child until they died, but because most of the countries became countries as toddlers, the countries don't remember their real parents or a few of them remember them. Sometimes I would think a parent would give their child away to be a country like how a parent sends their child out for adoption. I have an OC named Liberia, the first US colony, and have a backstory where her mother was a runaway slave and had been attacked before America came to her rescue. The mother had a little infant in her hands and made America promise to raise her daughter as a free child. America kept to his promise and declared the child as Liberia when she grew older. For Sealand, I would think his parents are the ones that own Sealand, since it is owned by a family, so Sealand's boss is probably his daddy. Sometimes, the country would be blood related to another country like the Italy's with their Grandpa Rome. I do believe that Ancient Rome got himself busy, had children and their children gave birth to Italy and Romano, whom he declared as countries. Same with Germania with Prussia and Holy Rome, Ancient Greece with Greece, Ancient Egypt with Egypt and Britannia with the UK brothers and Ireland.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to ufd [2016-06-09 01:53:26 +0000 UTC]
Cool! Haha I guess I could have done that, too. =w= Anyways that's really old! o0o
Hm, interesting headcanon. =3
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ufd In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2016-06-09 01:55:08 +0000 UTC]
Yep. My grandpa was a kid at the time.
Thanks XD
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to ufd [2016-06-10 02:44:18 +0000 UTC]
Wah so crazy! o0o
No prob. Headcanons like that are always fun.
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TheUnknownMistres [2015-12-21 08:23:44 +0000 UTC]
I agree for the most part, like if im reading a fanfiction i want the country names to be used not the human names. There are some acceptions though, like im happy that the human names are there for people who want to make AU fanfictions, but the human names seem really overused to me.
"United states of Alfred" XD
i acctually have one american friend named Alfred, but its very uncommon and i think they could have used a better one. Honestly though, it doesnt bug me too much. i mean i dont reallylike them either, but i have nothīng against them. I can imagne how confusīng they must be to some, though. It was REALLY confusing for me when i first heard them, and to me a while to learn and get used to them.
Sorry for all the typos, typing on a tablet is hard ;-;
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to TheUnknownMistres [2015-12-22 02:42:36 +0000 UTC]
Yeah they're DEFINITELY overused. You know, that could be one reason why they're kind of annoying to me. Because quite a bit of people use them and it just confuses me a lot of the time. x.x I wish we could just keep them in AUs ;w;
Haha! xD Well it kind of prooves my point, eh? ;D
Oh do you? xD I've only heard it used for Americans in fiction for nerds and stuff like that. Otherwise they're British butlers, haha!
Honestly, it wouldn't bug me as much if people didn't use them all the time. Such as in comics or anything like that (especially regular conversations x.x). They're definitely overused and I don't think Himaruya intended the human names to be that important at all, really.
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TheUnknownMistres In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2015-12-22 06:15:42 +0000 UTC]
Did Himaruya even make the human names??? i heard he didn't, but i don't know for sure
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to TheUnknownMistres [2015-12-22 06:28:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah he made a few. There are a lot of fanmade human names, but he did make a big chunk of them. But I've never seen him use them at all. He probably was just making them for the fun of it without any serious intent behind it. Fans just grabbed them and ran. xD
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MonochromeTypewriter In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2016-01-27 22:20:32 +0000 UTC]
Actually, the human names were a request. They weren't even something he intended to do, but someone asked what their names would be if they were human so he wrote up a quick response. And then, like you said, fans just grabbed them and ran.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to MonochromeTypewriter [2016-01-27 23:21:53 +0000 UTC]
Wow...well that's nice to know. o-o They're just totally a fan thing. Wow.
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MonochromeTypewriter In reply to TheReapersApprentice [2016-01-28 14:53:54 +0000 UTC]
Well mostly, yeah. So overall the human names are pretty pointless. The only use I've ever had for them is that it makes them easier to search sometimes.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to MonochromeTypewriter [2016-01-28 19:15:08 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, and even that's annoying. =T It shouldn't be what makes it easier, but whatever. I'm still totally cool with them being undercover names, though. But still...some just HAVE to change
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Chickadde1 [2015-12-19 03:30:29 +0000 UTC]
Hm, well this is new!
I kind of have to agree on this one. Although, I don't really mind them, but I don't use them. Not even the countries themselves use them in the show.
A few names are good, but most of them aren't. I'm glad you pointed out Alfred...Seriously, I don't know a single American with the name Alfred...
But I think for sure, the most annoying one out of all is "Iggy"... ugh.
Human names also get to be problematic when it comes to siblings, and ancestry.
For example, sometimes, people misspell Russia's 'last name' and that actually turns his name into a Polish last name... People often give Liechtenstein and Switzerland the same last name, but they can't do that because of their religion differences...
And then there are people who just 'make up names' for the characters?? I don't mean people who research names, I mean people giving them names because they 'sound good', when really, those names don't exist in the country at all.
For the most part, I think human names should just be used in human AUs.
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TheReapersApprentice In reply to Chickadde1 [2015-12-19 05:38:02 +0000 UTC]
Well look what we've got here! I didn't think there was another person out there who didn't like the human names. This just made my day, haha!
Yeah, Alfred is, by far, my least favorite. It's a big no no to me. Iggy, on the other hand, is actually a nickname that France does use in the canon Japanese version of the anime. That's because England in Japanese is "Igirisu". So sometimes France will refer to England as "Iggy". So I do understand that one.
And yeah, the last names get to me, too. In fact, speaking of Russia, he doesn't even have the same last names as his sisters! I mean, I do realize that in the Russian culture there is a feminine and masculine name of every surname, even if you're siblings, but if I remember correctly, Russia's and his sisters' last names aren't even similar. o-o And even with America and Canada. They're brothers, right~? Then why don't they have the same last name???
And yeah, the made up names confuse me even more. x.x I just can't with them. Haha
And I totally agree with your last comment there. Like I said, I'm totally fine with them using human UNDERCOVER names, or as you mentioned in some kind of AU (which I'm not a big fan of, either, but if you just keep it in the AU, then I'm not bothered too much). But just...can we not use them all the time? >w> Too often am I in a conversation with another Hetalian and suddenly a human name is used and I'm just like, "....Who now? ;7;"
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