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Published: 2013-08-06 07:01:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 3146; Favourites: 5; Downloads: 10
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Description This is an edit by ~Katheryn-Liza .

This PMD model actually has a nice color scheme but has a whole series of issues that spoils its overall appeal.

MMD:
[1] On loading the model and turning on physics some physics fall off or out of place and one piece just doesn't move.
[2] The model needs to wear a bra - too much jiggling in the chest area - there's a physics problem here.
[3] Shoulder joint looks awkward - no easy fix for this.
[4] Elbow joint looks awkward when bent; needs re-weighting.
[5] The feet/ankle/shoe/toes have problems. The bone structure is broken down in this area and I'll cover this in more detail below.

Appearance-wise, she's got awfully broad looking shoulders - almost makes her look like a male cross-dressing as a female. In general, the proportions on this model are not elegant.

Motion used here to test the model is FREELY TOMORROW. This is a good motion for testing purposes as it puts the model through a wide range of standard type bone movement without extremes and will make glitches immediately apparent.

PMD:
[1] Bone labeling incomplete.
[2] Facials have no English labels.
[3] Group list need to be redone/cleaned up.
[4] The foot (see insert above): This area is missing the bone structure required to stablize the IK bone structure. It basically needs to be rebuilt. As is it spazzes out and there's nothing controlling where the toes go which is one of the reasons why it's going through the floor.
[5] Mother bone is below the origin point as is the view cnt bone - both need to be at 0x,0y,0z.
[6] Center bone requires an anchor bone for stability reasons.
[7] Same applies to the groove bone.
[8] Breast physics need to be redone - there's two sets of breast physics going on in there and this is what is causing the issues with the hyper-active jiggling. There's too much junk in this general area to see what's really going on - recommend to delete everything in this area and redo from scratch.
[9] Junction between legs and hot pants needs to be closed.
[10] Hair texture is patchy. Can't see it in the screen shot but it is very apparent from the back.

Other issues:
There is one huge texture map in the folder: body00_MikuAp.tga (16MB) - it's not even used on the model and shouldn't be in the distribution package. I think there are a few other unneeded tex maps in the folder also which should also be removed.

Readme.txt (RULES,txt) ~ wholly uninformative. Needs a re-write.


MMD 8.03
PMD 0.1.3.8
Photoshop 7
MME: Serious Shader / Mirror Floor

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Comments: 25

memesarecool [2017-08-21 20:27:00 +0000 UTC]

i know this is a really dated post, but i have the same problem with the feet. in pmdeditor, they look just fine, but when i load it up in mmd, the feet twitch! i'm pretty close to giving up. could you possibly help me? not as in me giving you the model to fix, cause i know you might have heard that so many times, but could you give me a guide to helping/fixing this problem? thank you for your time.

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Trackdancer In reply to memesarecool [2017-08-22 03:13:07 +0000 UTC]

Here's the fix: trackdancer.deviantart.com/art…

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memesarecool In reply to Trackdancer [2017-08-22 03:14:38 +0000 UTC]

thank you!!

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Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-06 13:59:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for reviewing I start fixing it

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-06 16:45:22 +0000 UTC]

NP - hope this helps.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-07 02:39:26 +0000 UTC]

FREELY TOMORROW where did you get it

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-07 02:52:11 +0000 UTC]

From the Internet

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-07 19:53:14 +0000 UTC]

I been trying find download. I looked but can't find it.

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-07 22:08:52 +0000 UTC]

bowlroll.net/up/dl2573

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-08 14:25:51 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-09 23:08:28 +0000 UTC]

The note system isn't working. I got your note. Sounds like something got messed up. You'll need to redo from the last good saved version.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-11 16:00:12 +0000 UTC]

Wow, works now. I play motion c lip before It say normal stuff but nothing happens. For everything I put once to pmd even all did change language of it.

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-11 16:18:13 +0000 UTC]

Good to hear it works for you - keep a back up as I don't have the model on my system anymore.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-12 17:39:07 +0000 UTC]

I figure out what did wrong before didn't work before. First I made everything English and some thing need stay Japanese. The other is my old old model had to many errors to run.

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-12 17:52:18 +0000 UTC]

Yep - the Japanese labels on the Japanese side of the Interface needs to remain Japanese.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-09 23:18:55 +0000 UTC]

I did but same happens and model post devainart won't let me use motion data either

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-10 02:18:59 +0000 UTC]

The start off with the Deviantart version (just d/l) your own file. Yeah, word of warning. And I forget this myself sometimes. BUT ... whenever you:

[1] Mess with physics
[2] Mess with IK bones

Make sure you have a working backup copy - as if you mess up with [1] & [2], basically you're screwed. Sometimes, you can salvage it because the model still loads in the PMD editor, but if it doesn't - well that's what the backup is for.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-10 03:20:21 +0000 UTC]

No says same bone name and when click ok. Freezes sec and when hit play nothing happens

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-10 03:41:38 +0000 UTC]

Check your model's bones - sounds like you have a duplicate of a critical bone and that's what is giving the program fits.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-10 13:25:12 +0000 UTC]

all did I though is change bones names

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-10 16:09:07 +0000 UTC]

Just revert back to your last good saved version. Sorry, it's going to be a "redo from start" but even I get models into a "no can fix" mode and have to waste hours of work going back to a backed up good version. Yeah, its a pain, but that just comes with the territory.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-10 17:59:31 +0000 UTC]

I keep doing that but same thing happens.

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Trackdancer In reply to Katheryn-Liza [2013-08-10 19:49:55 +0000 UTC]

I downloaded a copy from your gallery and fixed almost everything in about an hour and a half - no problems. Fixes included:

- Bone structure corrected - incl. rebuilding the entire foot/toe bone assembly / added tail bones where these were needed / corrected pos of other bones.
- Group list corrected - everything more or less where they should be.
- Physics cleaned - nothing falls off anymore.
- lines removed - helps to make her look better.
- minor material tweaks - more than that needs an almost complete rebuild which isn't what I was aiming to do.

I really don't know what you're doing wrong, but the basic model is structurally fine to work on.

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Katheryn-Liza In reply to Trackdancer [2013-08-10 20:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know that thank for helping. I was talk about just some random part or model work in mmd. I was trying figure out way to test them

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BlakeJX [2013-08-06 07:19:46 +0000 UTC]

LOL, 'Needs to wear a bra', 'Hyper-active jiggling'.

The body looks like a muscular male build with a big top and small bottom.

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