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NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET: INNOCENT DEMONChapter II: "Déjà Vu" REVISED EDITION
Written by Abri Isgrig and Diane N. Tran
"You, me, alone," grinned Freddy sinfully, laying out his easy charm unmitigatedly thick, like marmalade, while he curled his tongue under her ear. "Spread eagle between the Babies Alive and the Barbie Dream Houses. Faces lit. Bodies entwined. Our screams echoing across the halls. Whattaya say?"
"Tempting," Loretta forced back a moan, attempting to pull away before she did something she would really regret. "But the answer's no."
"Loooorretta," her name was drawn from his lips in a slow, low murmur, as his hand slithered under her dress and teased at her skin, watching her squirm and shiver with a throaty chuckle. "Do you really mean no? Cause you know what? I can hear," his fingers cupped between her legs and curled, causing her to cry out, "and I can tell that you really wanna say yes."
"I said no and I meant no!" and she slapped his hand away, hard, which caused him yelp and rub his injured hand. She winced at the sound of his pain and looked up at him with a pair of sad, puppyish eyes. "I—I'm sorry, sweetie, but you didn't leave me much of a choice. It's just that I don't want to risk anything. Either of our jobs, or the baby."
Freddy grimaced at her and emitted an irritable growl just behind his throat, as he stood up, pushing his hands in his pockets, in defeat: "Looks like I'll have to go one-handed for the next seven months, huh?"
She couldn't help but scoff. As if her condition was her fault! "You brought it on yourself, Frederick Charles Krueger," she waved an admonishing finger at him, like she would with one of her students. "When it comes to sex, you tend to get... Well, uh..."
He offered with a lopsided smile and a shrug. "Overenthusiastic?"
"I'd go for dominant, but alright."
He couldn't help but raise a thick eyebrow and secret smile at that.
Sex wasn't a normally gentle with them. Loretta had a small, delicate frame, more girly than womanly, and Freddy had an affinity for rough sex. His ego demanded it. She often had to wear high collars to hide the various hickeys and teeth prints, or long sleeves to cover the burn marks on her wrists whenever he tied her up, and her hips and legs were regularly imprinted with bruises. But there was something she always did find odd about him.
Although he enjoyed the habitual hand and blowjob, he, unlike other men, hated her on top. He preferred being the controller rather than the controlee. When she did attempt to ride him, his mood would suddenly deflate and he'd shove her off him in objection, only to have him push her down and pounce himself on top of her. Loretta could beg and plead, but she had to ask his permission first and foremost; even then, it was rare if he allowed it at all.
As they left the building and locked the door behind them, a streak of white over Freddy's shoulder suddenly caught her eye.
"Oh, afternoon, Sister," greeted Loretta.
He froze and paled when turned and saw Sister Mary Helena, clothed in her all-white habit with large cross dangling on a black cord around her neck, warmth radiating from her smile. A pair of blue, soothing eyes revealed a certain youthful beauty that hid beneath the cruel, aging lines upon her face.
That was another thing Loretta found odd. Freddy was not a religious man by any means — he considered himself a sinner of the first degree — and never acted pious around any other member of the clergy he came into contact with, except for Sister Mary Helena. There was just something about the woman that spooked him and she never fully understood why.
"H—hullo, Sister," Krueger muttered, removing his hat and crossing himself.
"Afternoon, Frederick," greeted the nun, patting Freddy kindly on the shoulder. "You look well."
"I—I've got some... stuff... errands to run before I—uh, we go home, honey," he said, talking rapidly, running his words together, as he tugged on his faded, black trenchcoat and perched his grimy fedora over his eyes. "Gotta get to the hardware store before it closes and get some take-out for lunch—I mean, dinner! I'll be in the car," with that he bolted out of the conversation towards the parked vehicle, as though his life depended on it.
"Has Frederick always been so jumpy?" inquired the holy woman.
"I'd like to apologize, Sister," Loretta replied with a sympathetic smile. "He's often told me that he feels very uncomfortable around you."
"Oh?" the nun's voice elevated slightly in surprise. "Why is that?"
"Not exactly sure why. I think he said that there's just something about you, something in your face, like he knows you from somewhere, but he can't seem to place it."
"I... knew his mother."
"Freddy never talks about his family, particularly his foster family. He did once mention something about a nickname he was called as a kid. What was it...? Son of—," the schoolteacher tapped her chin thoughtfully. "Son of a hundred or thousand something or another? Whenever I ask him about it, he goes quiet. Anyway, what brings you here?"
"Well, I had recently heard that you and your husband are expecting," Mary Helena's soft hands tenderly cupped her face. "But I can see that already. Loretta, my child, you're positively glowing."
"Word travels fast in Springwood," she smiled with a blush in her cheeks, resting her hands upon her belly. "We only found out a few days ago ourselves."
"Almighty and most merciful God in Heaven, in His infinite goodness and wisdom, has blessed with a new child. There's no greater moment when a parent learns of the gift the Lord has given them. I know you and Frederick will cherish this child, watch over it, and provide for all its wants of body and soul, just as you have for each other. I am happy for the both of you."
The nun's tone suddenly became serious and continued: "However, I know that pregnancy may be difficult and frightening at times, but it is a spiritual experience that will test you to your limits, like no other. It is the ultimate journey of transformation and discovery. Push aside your inadequacies, fears, and self-doubts. Take the opportunity to prepare your mind, body, and spirit for this new life."
"Thank you, Sister, for the advice," interjected Loretta. "I will take them to heart."
"I would like to be there for you and Frederick. And, if you are interested, I myself am a midwife, and can offer guidance and perspective."
"Thank you for your offer, Sister. I will consider it when I get farther along."
"That's all I asked," the nun nodded in understanding with a smile. "And what of your classes?"
"Good. I graduate this winter, but I'll be the size of a whale by the time I wear my cap and gown."
Sister Mary Helena chuckled. "You'll look beautiful. I should take my leave from you now. And tell Frederick that his mother says hello."
Krueger watched his wife and the nun part ways from afar, safe in the sanctity of his truck, and tapped his nails impatiently along the steering wheel. He felt like an idiot for allowing some stupid church-broad get under his skin. He had a strong urge to rip the seats underneath him and chuck them at her. There was something about her, something about her eyes, like looking into a mirror, that unnerved him. He needed to calm the fuck down.
He scrabbled at the hatch to the glove compartment of his truck, pulling out a flask. He unscrewed the cap and took a lengthy swig of whiskey, feeling the alcohol burn his stomach, warm his cheeks, and slowly milk into his bloodstream.
What was it about that nun that bothered him so? Why did she seem so familiar? He'd only met her four years ago and yet he avoided her every chance he got. For some reason, after every encounter with her, he was suddenly struck with the childhood memory of being taunted:
- SON OF A HUNDRED MANIACS! SON OF A HUNDRED MANIACS! SON OF A—!
The gardener choked in surprise, hastily hid the flask in his coat when he saw Loretta. He gasped and hacked, as the whiskey went down the wrong tube and snorted into his sinuses.
"Were you drinking?"
"Ack—nuh—hack—no, honey...," Freddy coughed. "I'm fine."
"Are you sure you're okay? Because—"
"Goddammit, you stupid fuckin' bitch, didn't you understand a fuckin' word I said?! Why the hell won't you trust me when I say I'm all right?!" snarled Freddy, his voice bitter, slamming his fist against the horn. Suddenly, he caught the look his wife's hurt, angry stare fixed upon him and quickly understood he'd lost his temper again. It was one of the major issues of their marriage. "I—I'm sorry, Loretta," staring down at his hands in guilt. "I didn't mean to... to snap at you, like that."
Something told him that he'd be sleeping on the couch tonight.
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Comments: 167
tranimation-art In reply to ??? [2013-08-14 10:36:39 +0000 UTC]
We did our best to keep everything in-character as possible to the reboot and, if you read the artist's comments, we did our best to to keep everything well researched as well, changing things only for the purpose to expand the universe or to take it into a new, fresher direction.
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-03-31 22:47:59 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I find it rather amusing that you find Chapter II "disturbing" because it's one of the tamest chapters. It just gets darker and darker as the chapters from here on end. I'm interested to see how you take on Chapter III, V, and VI go.
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the-sand-prince In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-01 12:06:50 +0000 UTC]
i found this one disturbing becuase of all the sex talk
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 12:35:45 +0000 UTC]
I can see that. It's pretty "normal" talk for a married couple, but there is a lace of "perversion" to it and I'm glad you noticed that. Because it's done on purpose. Nothing I write is flippant or insignificant, because every word, every sentence, every definition, every paragraph, every indention, has at least three and five different purposes/reasons behind it. I labour intensively at each of these words to make them clear and comprehensible, yet emotional, symbolic, allegoric, metaphoric, subtle and/or obvious, really just certain conviction and depth behind them. I actually toothpicked little red flags throughout this entire story. I know for a fact that some people have not noticed them, but others have, and the reason why they're there is show they have ALWAYS been there:
With our conversation about how Englund's Freddy, remember how I said that pedophiliac subtext of him were ALWAYS there, but they subtle enough to be glossed over the first time, but then you might notice them the second time, or third time you watch the film, but essentially they were ALWAYS there. This reflects aspects of real life: Pedophiles/serial killers live among us, you can laugh with them, talk to them, they have all the appearance of normalcy, and then it's revealed what they have done, you wonder how you were fooled. How did they fool you? Then you look back, you notice little red flags that clued you in, little clues that were a little...OFF in their behaviour. You brushed them off, but they were little warning signs in which you ignored and glossed over, and the frightening question is: Why didn't I notice them before? Why didn't I do something before? And if I knew what I know now, could I have prevented this from happening? And that's a very REAL reaction to REAL life.
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the-sand-prince In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-01 12:49:02 +0000 UTC]
do you wanna know a cool horror series with a lot of subtext
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 12:54:07 +0000 UTC]
There's a lot of them. FRANKENSTEIN is one, DRACULA is another, any Hitchcock film, Cronenberg film, even the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET film series has a bunch. So...you need to be a little more specific.
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the-sand-prince In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-01 12:55:16 +0000 UTC]
im talking about the puppet master films
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 13:05:09 +0000 UTC]
Brrrrrrrr... I have actually a pediophobe (a psychological fear of dolls). I've seen the films, I admit the first one is an excellent film, but I watch the films through my fingers the whole time. Funny when it comes to horror films I have watched.
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the-sand-prince In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-01 13:09:37 +0000 UTC]
i dont fear puppets but i do fear porcelin dolls,my sister tramatized me with them
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 13:45:48 +0000 UTC]
(flails) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Oh, I despise those things! Particularly the ones with the EYES that move on their own! (runs away) I'm out!
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the-sand-prince In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-01 14:40:29 +0000 UTC]
have you ever seen repo the genetic opera or the devils rejects
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 14:50:55 +0000 UTC]
I have. I don't really like DEVIL'S REJECTS. I thought it was a good film, but I didn't like it. Same with HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSE, which was a better film; again, I didn't necessary like it. I'm glad I (at least) saw them once.
REPO! THE GENETIC OPERA I'm a fan of. In fact, today I just posted the second chapter of a pastiche (fanfic) I've been working on, with the same co-writer I worked with INNOCENT DEMON on. (I try to post a written work on the first of every month.) You can read it here: [link]
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tranimation-art In reply to the-sand-prince [2013-04-01 15:06:40 +0000 UTC]
All my literary works can be found here: [link]
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GeekGem [2013-03-29 07:58:04 +0000 UTC]
Hmmm good good. A very nice next chapter. Yet I can't bevive I'm gotta say this I was surprised when I saw the words blowjob, and f**k. But really I haven't read any chpaters in a while. But yes this is good as it seems. And from what I learned in the info below and first comment. Nice idea you guys are adding characters from the classic series.
Another yeah I guess was just surprised at this well indeed. Sorry if I say too much of any words. But a good chapter. Mostly I have learned Fred or shall I say Freddy has temper problems. On the crouch heh heh.
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tranimation-art In reply to GeekGem [2013-03-29 16:21:09 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! For the most part, I wanted to bring a poetry to the story, but it's not a "clean" kind of poetry. It's a REALISTIC form of language; it's very matter-of-fact, even blunt, at times then twists into flowery and elegant at times, but it always keeps you guessing. It's matches to how suspicious and direct Freddy can be, to the point of being blatantly offensive and downright politically incorrect at times, and yet how he evangelizes other things, pastoralizing them, over-idealizing them. Freddy does this to very, very specific things and specific persons he encounters. I did this specifically to lace everything with a cruel but subtle irony, things that makes you arch an eyebrow because these are things "normal" people don't generally perceive in that manner. None of these words are flippant. They are chosen for significant reasons.
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GeekGem In reply to tranimation-art [2013-04-05 03:57:42 +0000 UTC]
Np and hmmm quite intersting. Really that's nice to know then. But really a nice idea.
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Slashphoto [2013-03-12 04:43:41 +0000 UTC]
Again, I did not fave? Ahh, I love it! He needs to be this evil. He'd Freddy! Somehow we seem to see him alike in a lot of ways. Mine swears more though, LOL!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-12 11:06:11 +0000 UTC]
Admittedly, I don't make my Freddy swear enough. Of course, JEH's Freddy didn't swear much. He really doesn't need to. You can say so much more without four-letter words. The sex scene in Chapter III isn't graphic whatsoever. I never really describe the act itself. I don't say "And he slipped his cock inside and fucked her her brains out." That never worked for me and it will never work for me. Because what you don't "see" distrubs one more than what you don't "see." I'm not going to "show" it, describe it, but I allude to it: I use metaphoric imaginary and interaction, I describe reactions and sensations, but I'm not going to romanticize or idealize it either. I simply say what needs to be said and the imagination supplies the rest. The words are chosen with extreme care. My intention is not to gross out the reader by using words like "cock" or "cunt" or "fuck" that leave a foul taste in your mouth, I'm not going to use scientific description as if I'm dissecting a frog either. My goal is play everything out almost like a romantic dialogue, like playing a romantic lead for a romantic film, and that's more unsettling and disturbing that way, I feel. This becomes clear when I travels down the pedophiliac road. It's all about choosing the right words.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-13 01:18:56 +0000 UTC]
My Freddy just swears so much because it is one of the signs he is about to go off. Admittedly, he's ready to go off all the time. I try to avoid too much description in my own sex scenes, just giving enough for readers to draw back in horror. I don't think I use the words for body parts, but I expect readers to know what phrase like 'inside me' mean.
I wouldn't even go that far, but for some reason he has to be that repellant. I do not want readers loving him. That way they feel rather sorry for Elizabeth since she CAN love him. He's still my romatic lead, just a very messed up, foul-mouthed one. Mine thinks swearing gives him power. I don't know why, he just does.
I always got the sense of Freddy being a greaser in the right era, stuck in his hostile teen years forever, so maybe it is that. I think his stepfather swore, and so unwillingly he adopted the habit, because the man had power over him for so long. Dang Alice Copper and his fine acting skills, LOL!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-14 20:18:39 +0000 UTC]
Englund-Freddy is a bit of a greaser, yes. It makes sense. He was a rebellious kind of youth. One of things that bugged me about the scene with Alice Cooper is that here's a HUGE different between what is a sadist and what is a masochist. Oftentimes, they don't run together: Some sadists, while they love cutting others, cannot stand getting cut themselves. Some masochist, while they enjoy cutting themselves, are intolerant of the thought of cutting others. Then there are others that swing both ways. I always found that fascinating.
I met Alice Cooper at a horror convention. Sweet man. Shook his hand. Wanted to play with his hair, but thought it best not to ask that.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-14 20:37:45 +0000 UTC]
I don't think Freddy likes the pain, he just learned to embrace it because that broke his stepdad's power. If you like something, or can learn to embrace enduring it as a strength, it robs it of its power. My Elizabeth does it too. Most people would scream if cut, anyone would. But she learns to embrace the pain not as a masochist, but to show how tough she is.
You are so lucky! He seems like a total sweetheart.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-14 21:31:30 +0000 UTC]
I always sneer that the scene because the psychology is completely "off" to me. But I like your analogy of it. That makes that sneer turn into more of a blank frown. I'm sadden that your Elizabeth goes through so much, as understandable and logical as it is. I assume her reaction is like "It's a cut. It will heal. There are far deeper cuts, not all of them involve a knife." (starts singing Cat Steven's "The First Cut Is The Deepest")
He is a complete sweetheart! He's a teddy bear! Very squishable! Just like Robert Englund!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-14 21:44:01 +0000 UTC]
Awwww! Robert is such a cutie!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-14 21:49:40 +0000 UTC]
Robert Englund is an ADORKABLE man! I've met him several times. He talked to be for 15 minutes and the line got upset with me. Like I cared, I just swatted down and grinned from ear to ear, listening to him prattle off about my favourite role of his, which incidently isn't Freddy, but Erik Destler of 1989 PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. It's amazing how he went from dork (with his ever adorkable nerdy looks) to studmuffin (BAM! PREGNANT!) overnight!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-14 21:53:47 +0000 UTC]
I LOVED him in that. Only he could make an implied rape scene look romantic, because you get where he is coming from. He's pissed she doesn't love him. Man, I'd sit and listen to him talk forever. I play clips so I can make sure my Freddy has his voice in my stories. You are so lucky, he's quite the charmer. Lol, preggers!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-14 22:30:17 +0000 UTC]
"Only he could make an implied rape scene look romantic..." It's SOOOOO true! Most people prefer the "romantic" Phantom of the Webber music, I was one who prefer the darker "horror" Phantom of Chaney and Englund. I love the musical, don't get me wrong, but the "phans" of the "romantic" Phantom turn me off, I think. Also...it's Robert Fuckin' Englund! He's a stud! I'll take him over the watered-down whiner any day!
Seeing that I've met Robert several times and have gotten his autograph several times, I strangely don't have a Freddy among them. It's been his Erik (two autographed photos) and his Dr. Andover (poster, which I received in a FEAR CLINIC twitter contest, and one autographed photo) and his autographed biography (which I won unautographed). Someday, I'll get a Freddy, but I want a Willie from his V before that. Krueger-graphs are a dime a dozen, so I suppose that's why I want his lesser known roles first.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-14 22:46:48 +0000 UTC]
I do too, he was so cute in V! Then what was it, Motel Hell where he played Buck? Har, har, har. Plus him in Strangeland and Danse Macbre. Now that I want a damn poster of.
Oh Gawds I know, phans drive me nuts. True I had a POTO site with some of that stuff on it, but it was the original man and the Chaney versions I still adore. I want a man who acts like a stud. Most of the stage Phantoms cry so much you want to bitch slap them. Ahh, instant Rick James powers. Mwahahahaha!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-14 23:25:44 +0000 UTC]
Oh, Buck! I don't know how to feel about that character, whether to be turned on by him or be turned off by him; I think it's both. Same with STRANGELAND, although that scene where he fistpumping dance the air in his leopard-print undies just cracks me up to no end! Oh, Robert, you can't dance! Don't even try! The only time it worked if when you had choreographer in PHANTOM and DANSE MACBRE! Speaking of which, I find his extremely attractive in that film, particularly with the scar, slicked-back hair, the beard, and GUHHHHH! Ironically, I do find his "woman" guise strangely attractive, too. He is a physically UGLY women, but...there's a tragic beauty and an eternal sadness to the character's personality that just makes him/her attractive.
I think the only Webber Phantom I had any true attraction towards was Colm Wilkinson of the Canadian Cast. Wilkinson's Phantom wasn't a WHINER. He was a happy compliment between the "romantic" and "horror," "passion" and "hate," "sadness" and "rage," the "tragedy" and the "truth" of the character, which is why I prefer his version. The Phantom was written originally as a villain, which is why Chaney's and Englund's Phantoms appeal to me because they were the closest to the original book. Wilkinson's was the only one of the Webber versions that did that, too. Everyone else plays the character like Romeo; he played it like Iago.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-15 05:38:19 +0000 UTC]
Well said! I used to go to Toronto and adored his Phantom. I even have posters and such from the production and an autograph somewhere. He will talk to you online, squee! That voice! I have five or so of his albums.
I don't mind sad sometimes, but yeah, it gets old fast. Iagao is a lot mor fun than Romero any day and smarter too. Did you ever see the rewritten happy versions of Shakespeare's tragedies? God! Our professor used to read the happy endings to us in this high mincing voice.
Not only is Englund's female self attractive for her pathos, she is just dang attractive in her own way. I seriously expected a scene with the protege kissing her in that chair and I don't mean in a gross way, but a sweet one.
No he can't dance. That was so unsexy it was sad. Unless the idea was to turn the fangirls off, because I couldn't watch Freddy anything for two weeks after that. He was a lot sexier in 2001 Maniacs, so I forgive him.
Heck, he was sexier in that Sci-Fi gator movie. XD
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-15 07:23:40 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I'm sooooooo envious! I've never met Colm or seen him live! He sounds like a sweet man and I'm told he is. Before then, I had only the photos on the CD and a few clips from a PHANTOM documentary, so my imagination had to supply the rest, as well as studying his "acting" in other productions, like LES MISERABLES. The only time I saw his Phantom in action was in MR. PRODUCER tribute to Harold Prince; therefore, seeing the voice, the production, and the acting finally all together made me cry because it was everything I imagined and more. I was right about how he was that happy compliment between the "romantic" and "horror" Phantoms. I knew it just from hearing the "weight" and "depth" of his Phantom via audio, so seeing it all come together was emotional for me to know this is the only time I will see a Webber's Phantom done perfectly and it's a recording and not the entire stage play. Everyone else is infantile in comparison. Everyone seems to love Michael Crawford; I think he sounds like a wailing cat about how he's going to drown in two inches of water. I hate Sarah Brightman with a passion; she always has this need to show off and go above her range and she cracks horribly when she does; and she still does this and her voice is sooooo flat. No emotions there. Her expressions alone speak this, let alone her "acting": She always looks like I threw a brick and her head and she took her 10 minutes to realize something hit her in the head in the first place. She has this "dead" expression and it shows in her voice, so I dislike her immensely. Yet...I love Rebecca Caine of the Canadian Cast; she was a better singer, better ranger, better acting. I tolerate Brightman in REPO! because she stays within her range because she duets with people who aren't at her register. Once she does her solo, I skip it! I just CANNOT stand that song! It's not that the song is awful; she just makes it SOUND awful because it's Sarah Brightman being Sarah Fuckin' Brightman, grrrrr!
Oh, I adore Iago because he's such a motherfucker, similarly is with my love for Richard III. No! I haven't see the re-written "happy versions" of Shakespeare! That sounds HILARIOUS! I laugh hysterically over the "Sassy Gay Friend" of Shakespearean stories because there's so much truth in what that "sassy" man says that I just fall over laughing!
Yeah, I wanted that kiss between Englund (as a woman) and his protege, too! It is sad that he can't dance, but hysterical all the same. It's true that I didn't know how to react to the "fist-pumping dance in leopard undies" other than laughter, knowing I should be disgusted, albeit it was, but I laughed it off because the scene was utterly ridiculous. YESSSSS, he's extremely sexier in 2001 MANIACS. Same with ZOMBIE STRIPPERS for being "sassy" and "cute," even if the character was as "fae" to the point of political incorrectness, but that was the fun of the character because he was a "parody."
NIGHT TERRORS is an awful, awful film, but I love it because of Robert Englund. His modern-day character and the period pieces with his Marquis de Sade, which were actually exquisitely done, are what makes the film watchable. Everything else can go fly a kite!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-15 19:15:17 +0000 UTC]
Oh Lord, have you ever seen the old POTO toon about Brightman;s Christine? All her expressions, happy, suicidal, everything are the same. That damn squeaky voice of hers! Then you get good singers thrying to sound like her, arrgh! We've had some truly lovely Amrican Christines that wrecked their voices trying to ape her.
Yes, Colm on stage was wonderful. He is broken-hearted in his deus ex machina scene, but goes to lividly pissed for the rest of the play, as well he should be. I sum up the play with what one fan said her nephew shouted at the end, in perfect Estonia "Stay with him, you bitch!"
I love Richard the III, Of course I once saw a Richard so bad he played the part for comedy. It was the damn funniest thing I ever saw, but we in the Shakespeare class were also fuming and grandly humilited. We'd spent weeks building up about what a great role it was, and Henny Youngman comes on stage instead. Gods.
I love Englund in anything really. He could just read a grocery list for two hours and I'd watch that. Throw in Peter Cushing just standing there and Christopher Lee brooding in the corner and I smell Oscars.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-16 19:45:06 +0000 UTC]
I may have seen it. It sounds familiar. But yeah, that's her "acting" ability, just...blankness. I'm not surprised that people have wrecked their voices in attempts to outdo her, but she isn't any good! There are such better singers out there!
I loooooove that! I'm glad he portrays the Phantom with such rage; I can FEEEEEEL it in the audio. It's great to know how pissed off he was, how betrayed he felt, through the rest of the film. That "Stay with him, you bitch" is a masterpiece!
Luckily, I haven't see a BAD Richard III yet and I hope I never well. I've seen a questionable performance, but it was very amateurish production, so I forgave it.
OMG, Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee! (foams in the mouth and melts into butter) I admit being a larger Cushing fan that Lee. Don't get me wrong: I adddddore Lee, but I crushed on Cushing, first and foremost, because of his Van Helsing and his Baron Frankenstein. I blame the ring in his tie, the ruffles, those cheekbones, balled up fury of energy of his, along with the fact he was such a sweet nerdy gentleman in real life! Lee was more the aristocratic type, but...I love my sugary-sweet little nerdy types (with a dash of darkness), mwhahahahha!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-17 00:13:50 +0000 UTC]
We have the same taste in men. For me it is that gentle voice, and his hair tbat puts Cushing over the top. You know, he'd get beat up in a fight, but he's still man enough to go for it. Yes his Frankenstein is lovely! You can ieve hs is aristocracy. He dresses a tad better than Lee too, but Lee wins it for male magnetism.
I wish I had a boot of Colm to send you. The Christine there was also lovely, you got an idea she was in love with the Phantom, bad boy that he is. People go to those things all the time, and one time she would just not leave the stage at the end, just stood there looking at him. Colm had to break character and tilt his head at her, but that's how magnetic he was. God, he's still perfect.
Then of course everyone in the whole damn audience, including me started to cry. I need to get a hobby, that's what I need.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-03-20 12:29:10 +0000 UTC]
One of the amazing things about Cushing is how diverse he is as Van Helsing. The Victorian Van Helsing is one character, then you're catapulted into the "present-day" in one of the sequels, DRACULA 1092 A.D, and he plays 1970s Van Helsing completely different. While the HORROR OF DRACULA Van Helsing is ahead of his time, using science and technology that was cutting edge for his era, like a wax-recording victrola, but DRACULA 1972 A.D. Van Helsing is an anachronism: He's older, wiser, content with dusty books drinking tea by the fire, and has no interest in technology of the modern "hipster" age of psychedelic drugs, free love sex, and computerized machinery (while Dracula takes advantage of). HORROR OF DRACULA is the ("modern") crusader of divine (and scientific) justice obsessed in cleansing the world of a great evil, willing to burn the world around him trying, but DRACULA 1972 A.D. is the sad, reluctant (archaic) hero who wants nothing more than to protect his granddaughter from harm, fearing he would lose the one thing left the world worth living for (as he has no one else, being a widower). HORROR OF DRACULA Van Helsing lacks the compassion of DRACULA 1972 A.D. Van Helsing. (snuggles Cushing)
Cushing has always been more "fashionable" than Lee. The ruffles are to die for! Same as that ring through his tie in HORROR OF DRACULA! I can never get over that tiny detail! I always wanted to know if there was a deeper meaning behind that ring! Wondering if it was the ring of his wife who was killed by Dracula, or something like that (as it's a classic part of the Van Helsing mythos).
I want to see THAT Christine! The one that wouldn't leave and Colm had to tilt his head over. "Oh, yeah...I'm suppose to run away with Raoul, right! Be right back!" Hahahaha!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-03-21 02:53:27 +0000 UTC]
Squee! I love THAT ring! Yes, it has to be. When men did that is was an accessory, yes, but also a way to flaunt the meaning of the ring as well that just wearing it could never do. I think a male friend told me because it is by both the neck and heart the man will speak in regards to the ring and carry it in his heart. Mind you it was a poet who told me this.
I loved how very different Cushing was in each film. As time went on it gave his Van Helsing an almost unstable feel because you couldn't help thinking of the other films as well. There was something tragic and marvelous about him you could just intuit, but he never fully expressed. Something that if you did know, you'd kill Dracula yourself over.
That's coming from the girl who cheered for Dracula, mind you. I always wanted to see a film where they courted the same woman, a free thinker who wanted them both. I'd love to see them agree to that, I truly would.
She was mt favorite Christine ever! When she came back out on stage to give him his ring she kissed and hugged him for the longest time, the orchestra just went with it and looped the music while the audience cheered. She had this smile on her face when leaving that was out of character, but people stood up and applauded.
Colm was laughing like crazy when he got in the chair.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-05-01 09:19:15 +0000 UTC]
No, I totally believe there's a deeper meaning to ring-tie ornament. Dracula is suppose to be over 300 years old, so I doubt he "courted" Van Helsing's wife; I lean towards her being a victim of his. Maybe he stole her from him, enslaved her, or simply fed and destroyed her. Either way, it's motivation enough for him Van Helsing to travel to the ends of the earth just to kill the vampire!
I would have loved, loved, loved to see that Christine!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-05-02 09:01:13 +0000 UTC]
I love talking to you about her, it still brings a smile to my face and that was decades (almost) ago.
Yeah, Dracula would take Van Helsing's wife, make her a slave, just to taunt the man. But Van Helsing would fight back with the fact that she loved him, and no woman would ever love Dracula. At least that's what I'm thinking.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-05-02 21:21:43 +0000 UTC]
I can't help but imagine Peter Cushing's own wife as the model for Mrs. Van Helsing. Cushing was ADORED his wife and was utterly inconsolable when she passed away. If he wasn't religious, he would committed suicide long ago, but that didn't stop him from TRYING (in a way), but running and trudging up and down the stair to force a heartache, which was one of the many ways he "attempted" it. In the film TALES OF THE CRYPT, he used a portrait of his real-life wife when he played the widower, talking to her picture (as if she was really there), setting up the dinner table for two everyday; he's heartbreaking. Even in DRACULA 1972 AD, you can see the photo of Cushing's real-life wife and that same mourning "widower" mentality to the character. Seeing how obsessive Victorian Van Helsing is to oppose Dracula, I can see why he's so motivated to destroy him: "You destroyed me, I'll destroy you, and stop you from destroying the lives of anyone else." It's not just the people he victimizes, but all those whom are affected by it, too -- husbands, wives, children, families, friends, etc.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-05-03 15:37:36 +0000 UTC]
That is so romantic, and the bad part about finding The One. I know my mom followed my farther into the grave, she just couldn't help it. Which is why I always have the possibility, the starts and stops, the losses in my fanfics. Love like that can destroy you, and it is just because it is so complete. In a fair world, a better one, we'd all have our true love and all pass at the same moment.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-05-03 22:00:06 +0000 UTC]
It's true. My friend recently lost her husband, just a month ago, and I fear she's going to follow him there, but I would understand if she did.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-05-03 22:03:06 +0000 UTC]
I did too. He was her everything, and I understood that. You only get that once, if ever. It isn't something that can be helped, either. I thought I'd follow them both, to be honest, but I'm still here to annoy the masses.
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-05-09 08:05:03 +0000 UTC]
Good thing, too! I would have never got to know you if you did and I'm grateful to have you as a friend!
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-05-09 19:24:37 +0000 UTC]
Aww, thanks hon! Same here. Good friends are hard to find.
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Slashphoto In reply to tranimation-art [2013-05-10 00:17:16 +0000 UTC]
Who else is going to share posts of Lee or Chaney Sr.? I wish I'd kept all my old copies of Famous Monsters, arggh!
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tranimation-art In reply to Slashphoto [2013-05-14 04:51:40 +0000 UTC]
Ohhhhh, hearing that just gave me physical pain... I don't own a single copy, but I'd LOVE to!
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