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Published: 2019-05-21 20:59:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 16990; Favourites: 254; Downloads: 72
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ElastiGirl is here and shes going to stop this train the same way her husband did... WITH SUPER STR-oh no wait thats her husbands power not hers why did she think she could stop a train from the front.Oh well guess shes just gotta wait till the authorities scrape her off the ground and arrest her cause super heros and heroines are still technically illegal. Seriously though this scene pissed me off sooooo much when the movie came out and the part about her happy about succeeding and telling her husband pissed me off even more.
if your wondering why? Well she stopped a train, nobody got hurt and she didnt get taken to court over this and she told her husband this over the phone... you know the guy that stopped a train over something that wasnt his fault, took a beating in the process to save the people on board, got taken to court by everyone on board and as a result ended his and every other super hero/heroines career by making hero's illegal. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT HELEN THATS YOUR GOD DAMN HUSBAND THATS LIVED WITH THAT DECISION FOR THE PAST ALMOST 20 YEARS AND YOU JUST WENT "I saved a train and didnt get sued LMAO".
Alot of people didnt like incredibles 2 saying that it was just a "girl power" flick for elastigirl/helen but to me that makes her look hypocritical as fuck because of everything she chewed bob out over during the first movie she does in the sequel.
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Japanfan89 [2019-05-23 20:47:32 +0000 UTC]
Going to heavily disagree here with the whole "stronk women" argument that I2 brought (it actually downplays it by giving us more Bob moments of him ACTUALLY being a parent, OK he may not be the "World's Greatest Super-Dad", but he damn tries his best (and he's more of a parent than his own wife is), Bob was happy that his wife was out there being a super and was proud of her when she saved the train, (he after all told her to go out and be a hero, so they can be heroes again), he was being supportive of his wife (which is what a good husband is supposed to do when said wife gets a job), he was just upset because he wasn't out there being the hero like he wanted and only recently got a taste of it again in the first film (and the fact that Supers being sued was his fault to begin with), and if you've seen the first film, Helen was a feminist when she was younger (except a different one that doesn't mind men being around, she just didn't want to be left out by them and other male Supers "including Bob" knew this, which was why he gave allowed Helen to take credit for knocking out the rooftop robber first), and she doesn't try to put her husband down one bit in the film (except for that one scene that you mention that angers you so much, but even during that scene, Bob knew that his wife was happy that she saved the lives on the train and was supportive of it (even if he wasn't in the right mood to show it), he knew as long she was happy doing superhero-work (including train-saving), he was happy, and that's what a good supportive husband does), if I2 truly had "stronk women" Helen would have gotten equal character development like her husband Bob did in the first and 2nd films in I2 and her husband would have been left out of the B plot til the climax, rather than not getting any character development at all in the 2nd film.
Now if Violet Parr were to be a feminist (going into a hypothetical Incredibles 3), that'll really piss the entire fandom off if it's written wrong (1. Because Violet was never designed to be anything like either of her parents at all "especially her mom" 2. It would completely contradict her entire development from the first two films "even though she's at that age to decide for herself"), hopefully when a 3rd film does happen, Disney will do female-leads right (and Violet's the only female member of the family to get proper character development without getting hit with the feminist treatment, in fact Violet's line of "She's rich and I'm sure she'll just get a slap on wrist" was feminism written the right way)!
I'm so sick and tired of people bashing really good Disney/Pixar sequels (well except the two Cars sequels, nobody likes them anyways), I'm sick of this "Anti-feminist" movement world that we are now living in (I'm not bothered by feminism one bit, it's when people are hating on it that bothers me), if anything more female-lead films are needed in Hollywood right now! (but they need to be written better if anything to be on par with the male leads, and feminism can be a positive force if written right (and I2 didn't show a whole lot of feminism (seeing as feminism wasn't nearly as big in the early 60s (if anything it was more of the Cold War politics), so Pixar clearly did their homework), save for a few scenes at best).
Rey's clearly not a feminist and was not designed to be that way at all (she has flaws just like any other Star Wars protagonist that came before her, in fact her flaws line up with what Luke and Anakin had to go through in their respective trilogies, only mirrored), Leia was never a feminist (aside from that reimagined Star Wars that you mentioned, but even then that's non-canon anyways as the OT is still canon, there's also this thing called "Alternate Universe"), Captain Marvel is pretty much a feminist (and is the only one in the Disney/Marvel canon that was clearly designed with that in mind when they got the Captain Marvel naming rights back from DC).
But anyhow enough of my rant (sorry if this offended you or your watchers), but this is a lovely piece, hopefully Helen gets inflated next!
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trygullx In reply to Japanfan89 [2019-05-24 10:36:01 +0000 UTC]
This is the one and only time I’ve ever read a message on da with my phone and I actually had to scroll down... like alot
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Japanfan89 In reply to trygullx [2019-05-24 11:28:00 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, it's a habit of mine, I try to go into full detail on the subject I type to try and give out useful info!
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srss130 [2019-05-22 03:07:40 +0000 UTC]
I think they were trying to make the whole “Helen doing Bob’s job and passion better than he is while he fails at housework” into a bigger plot point but Disney said “No need stronk womens”
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trygullx In reply to srss130 [2019-05-22 12:02:59 +0000 UTC]
I would of been happy with her saving people... just not at the expense of her husband
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srss130 In reply to trygullx [2019-05-24 03:52:12 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I don’t mind an elastigirl focused movie for mutliple reasons... but I think the way they
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srss130 In reply to trygullx [2019-05-30 20:54:19 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for late reaponse, but look at the other reply to this
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srss130 In reply to srss130 [2019-05-24 03:55:20 +0000 UTC]
The way Brad Bird was leading it would have had something involving her husband more, perhaps he would have had Bob not fall under Screenslaver’s control and reject his wife, saying that all of the things she’s done has reminded him of his failures or something along those lines, then when it came to the Yacht scene or when the various screenslaved heroes came to the house, they would take over Bob and Frozone or maybe Frozone would escape with the kids.
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auroraflare [2019-05-22 00:06:31 +0000 UTC]
What you say reminds me of how they did rey in Star Wars to an extent. Anyway great work as always!!
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trygullx In reply to auroraflare [2019-05-22 12:04:40 +0000 UTC]
Rey, elastigirl, leia in the reimagined star wars where lukes a bumbling idiot, captain marvel... sadly disney is to big to go broke while being woke
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