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The Riddler is back in season 4 of Gotham.(If used in a video, article or blog, please credit me. Thanks)
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AlleK31 [2022-03-24 00:50:32 +0000 UTC]
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Daviddv1202 [2017-10-06 11:51:48 +0000 UTC]
Finally... I stopped watching for a while because I didn't like what they did to Riddler in the finale. I hope he plays a massive role again.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2018-12-24 02:57:28 +0000 UTC]
True enough, but season 5 is coming. And besides, for the record, my sister gets real sick and tired of seeing the Joker in more than two live-action DC movies.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2018-12-24 04:15:39 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind the Joker... just as long as they don't use him to overshadow other villains who are just as worthy to be Batman's greatest enemy.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2018-12-24 21:52:14 +0000 UTC]
That's also true. I also don't mind the Joker, in fact my personal favorite is the one from the first 'Batman' movie at 1989 portrayed by Jack Nicholson...though I never actually watched "Gotham" show begin in 2014, my sister merely watched it only as clips on YouTube. Anyway, the Riddler didn't get the chance to the cane in season 4, and it's not gonna happen in season 5 either. My sister really like this cane because its top is super sharp very much like the ones in "The Batman" 2004 cartoon and "Batman: The Telltale Series 2, The Enemy Within" video-game, while doesn't mind him still using guns it would be cool if they finally give the Riddler this damn thing in season 5 as a replacement of a pocket-knife he's been using through all four previous seasons. Don't you agreed?
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2018-12-24 23:55:53 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. I feel the cane is what fully completes his style as the Riddler. Well, we already know he's getting the question mark green suit so who knows? Maybe the show might surprise us. He will finally become the elegant villain he was meant to be.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2018-12-28 00:06:10 +0000 UTC]
Well, at least that by far Cory Micheal Smith while portraying this Riddler doesn't wear tights/spandex (which looks irrationally painful and pretty stupid on him) nor does he sounded high-pitched and childish (except when he screams in total anger) like an whiny sissy wussy giggling goofball when he laughs...unlike Frank Gorshin and Jim Carrey who both portrayed the Riddler in their respective live-action character roles before his time, that's for sure.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2018-12-28 02:17:36 +0000 UTC]
Jim Carrey is actually one of my favourite actors and favourite comedian overall. I never used to be a superhero fan if it wasn't for him. I was never a Batman fan. I mainly saw Batman Forever because he was in it and I enjoyed him, which lead me to see more Riddler stuff until eventually, I went into the deep end with DC and Marvel, thus causing me to become a massive fan of both. Of course, the Riddler is my favourite DC villain. However, I just have a really soft spot for Jim Carrey's Riddler. I agree he's a little silly and childish but even in some scenes, he could go full Chip Douglas on us (The Cable Guy) making his Riddler character more unnerving than funny. Cory really did surprise me with his character and I loved his evolution from kind, sweet and adorkable man who was bullied and rejected by a woman he was in love with to a ruthless, intelligent and charming psychopath who managed to frame Jim Gordon without ANYBODY noticing him. I actually mainly watched Gotham BECAUSE it had the Riddler in it.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2018-12-29 01:52:04 +0000 UTC]
Same way as my sister did, except last year since she first noticed Telltale!Riddler when the second season of "Batman: The Telltale Series" game. I myself have been deep into DC and Marvel since childhood because of the first two of "Batman" movies directed by Tim Burton, though I didn't really mean to be disrespectful toward Jim Carrey at all, pal, and I'm sorry that genuinely more a fan to Tim Burton films than to those of Joel Schumacher. You see, my sister and I didn't mind him portraying any character in any movie, including the Grinch in Ron Howard's version of the 'Dr. Suess' classic. In the 60's the Riddler hilarious enough with Frank Gorshin portrayed the character, but with Jim Carrey in the 90's was the different story. And you're right, "The Cable Guy" is rather unnerving rather than funny, though as kids my sister and I never actually watch "The Cable Guy", it is one of the least favorite movies so we normally don't think anything bad about the actor that much until we got older. It's the tights/spandex we're not fond of, back in 1995 as a kid I used to cosplay as the Riddler on Halloween when "Batman Forever" was still brand new, though luckily my childhood costume is in the form of separate shirt-and-pants pajamas my mom made for me. But actual tights/spandex are painful to look at and to my sister are the least favorite of the Riddler costumes. The point is, Cory never actually wear tight/spandex like a complete faggot that looks like Elton John, Liberace and Syndrome fused by Satan throughout his Edward-Nygma/The-Riddler, thank god for that. What do think about the tights/spandex on your point of view?
P.S.
The only decent thing my sister finds in "Batman Forever" was the song 'Kiss From A Rose', she really enjoys it since she was a little kid also back in 1995 when she used to cosplay as Kimberly the pink Power Ranger. And don't worry, while she like Princess Zelda only as a 'Normal Zelda'...in other words, she's seriously hates 'Ganon's Puppet Zelda' from "Twilight Princess" which since she first played as a teenager in 2006...yeah, she hates it even more so than she does hate Jim Carrey's portrayal of the Riddler...she said that 'Puppet Zelda' is a sleazy spineless obnoxious Disney-Princess/Sailor-Moon reject who reminds her of Jadis the White Witch (from "Chronicles Of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe", 2005 movie adaption only) and a 'pussy is so full of shit she became a asshole herself (and Ganondorf is shit)' looks like a loser meshed-up of Holli Would (from "Cool World"), Azula( from "Avatar: The Last Air-Bender") and Azshara (from "Warcraft: War Of The Ancients")--all who are always the embodiment of 'manipulative bitch in the sheep's clothing' whose 'beauty is bad/evil is sexy' in the "Mean Girls" logical way, and never as that of 'evil makes you ugly and monstrous' with self-harm-induced 'facial/body horror' due to actual 'demonic possession' which was supposed to naturally associate with in the "Evil Dead" logical way. Unlike most people who are mad-cow-jizz-drinking Luke Skywalker types when enjoying "Twilight Princess" without thinking/care if whatever it's relevant or not, my sister is more a bat-credit-card-hating Nostalgia Critic type of person is disgusted by the game's very story-line full of abysmal 'fuck-you' moments, you have no idea of what she had been through, to be honest...it made her feel like she's not really playing a "Legend Of Zelda" game but more like watching "The Queen Of The Damn" as a another Disney Pixar movie with a unexpected villain in it since Stinky Pete from "Toy Story 2" as if directed by Tom Green and Micheal Bay. For twelve years she suffered in stress disorders, horribly scarred for life, and she's very angry with the Nintendo staff--calling each of them 'sloppy ignoramus' (as Edward Nygma put it)--for butchering one of their own iconic characters...what jerks they are, I know, it was the most bigoted sleazy and uncool thing they ever came up with, believe me. Here's the warning, in case you're such a decent person to me and my sister; if you've never played "Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess" before, then don't bother playing it, because it'll mind-rape you like it did to my sister, just go instead read it on Wikipedia to see what she really mean by that and how utterly stupid the story was. I'm may not really a "Legend Of Zelda" fan myself but I'm only doing this to warn you on her behalf, surely you'll understand. Sorry for freaking you out with this, please forgive both me and my crazy sister. Godspeed, pal.
P.P.S.
Both versions of the Riddler--one in "Gotham" portrayed by Cory Micheal Smith and the other in "Batman: The Telltale Series 2, The Enemy Within" voiced by Robin Atkin Downes--are my sister personal favorites because, you're right again, they're ruthless intelligent charming psychopaths in the rational way, so she occasionally uses Telltale!Riddler she found last year as a 'stress reliever' after she had been confused and pissed off by the fact of what Nintendo did to Zelda in "Twilight Princess" unfairly, unjustly and disgracefully. Bye then.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2018-12-29 15:28:51 +0000 UTC]
I can definitely agree that the spandex looks really ridiculous. And as I said, he seemed way goofier than the Riddler I got to know more nowadays, but still, even though he had his silly moments, he could still be rather unnerving. Just imagine him as the Cable Guy and you will understand. And as I said, I have a real soft spot for him. And know The Cable Guy isn't exactly for everyone. Like all movie stars, not every project is going to be perfect. For example, there may have been one or two Jim Carrey movies I didn't exactly like. One of them being The Number 23. The concept was interesting but it was just SO SLOW! The trailer was more interesting and entertaining than the film itself. The other is his latest one. Criminal something. It was a crime drama. Jim Carrey was fine, but the movie was awful. Then again, Jim Carrey's acting is fine in all the films, but the plots can rub me off the wrong way a lot. So yeah, I always prefer it when the Riddler is wearing a suit rather than a silly spandex.
Damn, I don't play Zelda like at all (The closest thing I did to learning about Zelda is through the creepypasta BEN Drowned) but that is one hell of a story. Don't worry, I'll make sure to stay as far away from that game as possible.
Yeah, the Riddler in both those versions are close favourites too.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2018-12-31 21:21:58 +0000 UTC]
Aww, gee, that's nice, pal. Then you're in my sister's good side, because that 'Ganon's Puppet Zelda' was a lazy, stupid, dishonest and cringe-worthy idea the Nintendo staff put up with since the day the game was first released anyway. My sister didn't have a respect for those who are bigoted suckers to the 'Puppet Zelda' (one with yellow eyes and a sick-looking tattooed crook's skin) garbage, she personally collects/cherishes fan-art/pictures of only 'Normal Zelda' (one with blue eyes and normal clear healthy skin) via playing "Super Smash Bros. Brawl" and "Super Smash Bros. 4" to avoid reliving the godawful irrational horror she had suffered from "Twilight Princess", while as revenge she drew her own pictures that are (unlike Bellhenge) always portraying 'Puppet Zelda' as an grotesque harpy-like black-slime-puking monster in the bikini-like set of ratty rags--yeah, those pictures are more faithful and inspired in the logic of "Evil Dead" (and "Dragon's Lair 2"), more rational even, than both "Twilight Princess" game and the manga adaption ever come off--I'm pretty sure she has sincere decency to not showing them to you either unless you're okay with it. And the people who created the three "Legend Of Zelda" Philips CDI spin-off games--two of which already portrayed Princess Zelda with a sword and as a playable character (rather than a boss), no 'demonic possession' involved--are more imaginative in terms of character portrayal and situation story-wise, and are more decent, honest and respectful toward their favorite icons than the Nintendo officials ever were toward their own creations. Although you really don't need to play the Phillips CDI games, either...not because of their animation is as disturbingly ugly as "The Ren & Stimpy Show", it's because those games are so freaking hard on controls to play with. Thank you for take a heed of a warning.
Plus, the Riddler sure does look far better in a suit than a spandex, perhaps even cooler with a hood alongside the mask, he's a best character since the Beagle Boys in "Mickey, Donald & Goofy As The Three Musketeers" 2004 film because they also wore a dark combo of hood and mask and they also fight with no problem. Thanks a lot for sharing your favoritism with her!
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She's not necessarily fond of Telltale's Vicki Vale (and is pretty much preferring the Burton movie version) at all, in fact at first she was highly skeptical toward "Batman: The Telltale Series" until August 2017 its sequel was released....at least in the first season Telltale's Harvey Dent/Two-Face isn't really a complete annoying Joker-wannabe buffoon like his "Batman Forever" counterpart portrayed by Tony Lee Jones, that's for sure. The Riddler is quite awesome (and is, as he puts it, uniquely qualified to be seen in a big pitcure), and of course both Bane and Mr. Freeze aren't complete dumb-asses/goofballs in their Telltale portrayals, either--unlike their "Batman & Robin" counterparts portrayed by Micheal Reid MacKay and Arnold Schwarzenegger (not his fault that the movie itself is too bright/colorful, weird and goofy to be a serious DC film)--and there Poison Ivy wasn't confirmed in Telltale Games (again, unlike in "Batman & Robin", portrayed by Uma Thurman) whatsoever because Harley Quinn was featured as her replacement. Take care, now.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2018-12-31 22:44:54 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, I really loved the Vicki Vale twist in the game. Like Batman: Gotham by Gaslight, it turned one of Batman's iconic allies and turned them into a brand new villain.
To be honest, Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually a perfect casting for the role of Mr Freeze. It was just the bad script with the awful ice puns that gave him negative feedback.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2019-01-01 11:01:06 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry about that, pal. Though, my sister and I never actually watched "Gotham By Gaslight" so we don't think much. At least Telltale's Vicki Vale didn't really pissed my sister off as much as 'Ganon's Puppet Zelda' did. And you're right, the script with the ice puns is awful, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a good actor (other than Jim Carrey)--my sister and I really don't mind him play his role in other movies such as "Total Recall" and "Kindergarten Cop"--and his portrayal of Mr. Freeze in "Batman & Roblin" seems okay but he wouldn't be this 'blandly over-the-top pathetic' if it wasn't that script. We didn't really mean to disrespect your opinion.
I know you're not a Disney-fan or anything but let me know that of what do you think about the Beagle Boys in "Mickey, Donald & Goofy As The Three Musketeers" 2004 movie and about how painfully hard the Phillips CDI games were. Okay?
Once again. thank you for sharing your suit-glad Riddler favoritism with my sister, and thank you for taking a heed of the warning about "The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess" game.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2019-01-01 11:20:56 +0000 UTC]
Dude, you weren't disrespecting anything. Sorry if it seemed that way. I have an opinion and so do you.
Also, I never said I wasn't a Disney fan. I actually love Disney (Minus a few projects which don't sit well with me such as a few MCU movies and Star Wars: The Last Jedi) since a lot of my favourite movies come from them. I remember the Disney Three Musketeers film but I saw it as a kid. Watching it now, I would have to have another kid with me to feel less awkward because it really is a movie aimed more at children than all ages. Back in the day, though, I thought the movie was pretty good. And Goofy is my favourite Disney character.
No problem.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2019-01-02 09:19:05 +0000 UTC]
Oh good, my sister loves that movie too! I'm glad you hate "Star Wars: The Last Jedi" as much as I do. In fact my sister and I prefer the older Disney movies as kids ourselves. I was only assume it because, you see, since a few recent years the Walt Disney Company have been corrupted by satanic perverts who run it, we were just paranoid of that anyone who like the newer ones that are shitty while some of true Disney-fans would give up whatever they know and loved from their childhood. I'm glad we agreed.
Anyway, what have you thought about Telltale's version of Mr. Freeze? And what about Two-Face and Bane? What do you about them in two different versions, namely Joel Schumacher's films (that's "Batman Forever" and "Batman &Robin") and the Telltale Games to be exact?
By the way, you don't need to play to the Phillips CDI games when you just simply watched them in "The Angry Video-Game Nerd" review episodes, because it's funny and let me know what do think about those games. Good luck and happy new year.
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Daviddv1202 In reply to ProMonarchyGenius [2019-01-02 09:59:08 +0000 UTC]
Now I wouldn't say I HATE The Last Jedi. I'd just put it third from the worst. It's not as bad as Attack of the Clones and The Phantom Menace. Now THOSE movies are AWFUL. The Last Jedi still has a few great memorable moments I enjoyed. I just wish Finn was given a more bigger role. I kind of missed Finn's dynamic with Rey and Poe from the previous movie. I seriously hated Rose. And don't worry, I still love a lot of Disney films. I like a few of the newer ones such as Wreck-It Ralph, Moana and Tangled. And there are a LOT of classics I loved such as Peter Pan, The Lion King, Aladdin, The Jungle Book, The Hunchback of Notredame, The Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, Pinocchio, Mulan and so many other great classics that remain as my childhood growing up.
I was really meh about Two-Face. It was mainly because of the Illusion of Choice. No matter what happens, Harvey will always be Two-Face, only in one reality, he doesn't have the iconic scarred face. He becomes Bruce's enemy no matter what. This is one of the reasons why I wasn't too much of a fan of the first season. Though I DID enjoy being a brutal and ruthless Batman. Mr Freeze's character was actually done very well. On one hand, he was still sympathetic with his wife story, but on the other hand, he was this ruthless and cold (Pun intended) criminal who you knew was still a villain that needed to be stopped. As for Bane, he was my third favourite villain from the game - following Villain Joker and the Riddler. He was still a big ruthless freaky dude who demanded respect, and only used his toxin if the opponent is worthy enough to face him or through desperation. Compared the Joel Schumacher's versions, it's no contest that Telltale's versions are much better written.
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to Daviddv1202 [2019-01-07 06:40:24 +0000 UTC]
Okay...well, my sister and I also hate Rose, and we hate that pink-haired old Hobo, but the worst of all is the scene when Luke Skywalker is drinking a blue slimy what-supposed-to-be-milk from a giant sea 'mad cow' (that's the reference I'm using as an justifying insult to addressing to the 'Puppet-Zelda' lovers), it was really disgusting. So, have you read the original "Star Wars: The Last Jedi" novel as well, in case you're really are a true "Star Wars" fan just like me? Thanks for
And you're quite right, Telltale Games version of "Batman" is better written than the Schumacher films, while as a little equally as good as the Burton films.
Telltale!Mr. Freeze's ice puns--including 'frozen hell'--are much less corny and more intimidating.
Telltale!Two-Face--formally Harvey Dent, whatever --became a enemy because the conniving Telltale!Vicki Vale (a.k.a. Lady Arkham) injected a drug into him. And yet again, he's not a jumpy annoying Joker-wannabe monkey like his Schumacher counterpart.
And Telltale!Bane can talk as much as his Noah counterpart and, more often and properly than his Schumacher counterpart.
Anyway, the fifth season of "Gotham" is coming soon! ... No, wait, it just happened already! It's been nice typing with you. Though my sister said there's only one thing really baffles her is that we're gonna see Dr. Lee Thompkins again...after she and Nygma stabbing each other to death last season and in the same brutal fashion as what Nygma did to Dougherty at season 1, my sister expects that Dr. Thompkins will return in the next one only as another disturbing illusion/hallucination/mirage in Nygma's paranoid mind (just like the Kristen Kringle hallucination back in season 3)--even more psychotic in death than she was in life--shortly after he alone been revived using a few parts from her corpse by Dr. Hugo Strange who then keep the rest for his next experiments. You know what the "Gotham" version of Oswald Cobblepot a.k.a. The Penguin is like, he's jealous of Nygma's recent relationship with Thompkins exactly like he was of Isabella (Nygma's second girlfriend) and so he actually want her to stay dead even though Nygma killed Thompkins off himself like he did to Ms. Kringle (his first girlfriend) only first time she giving him the death-by-irony...I mean surely Cobblepot wants Nygma to be alive once again but the question is, why he would would ever want to bring Thompkins to back to life as well? I pretty sure that with her stay dead, he'll just took her place as the leader of the Narrows as he does with everything else in Gotham. Have a nice day.
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I don't need to be so rude any further, but have you watched three "The Angry Video-Game Nerd" episodes that reviews the Phillips CDI spin-off games of both "Super Mario Brothers" and "The Legend Of Zelda"? I highly recommended those. Let me know when you have the time. Take care, bud!
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ProMonarchyGenius In reply to The-PurplePony [2018-12-24 03:03:30 +0000 UTC]
So far, it never happen, and it's not gonna happen in season 5 either. My sister like this cane because it's very much the one in "Batman: The Telltale Series 2, The Enemy Within", it would be cool if they finally give the Riddler this damn thing in season 5.
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