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Some of my teammates from my PMD:EOS speedrun! I'm hoping one of these days I can continue this run.Related content
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Pikachu's red cheeks always cover blush in my opinion.
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awww so cute!! the lighting in the cave with the crystals is gorgeous
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Having extensive experience playing Riolu in EoS, I can tell you it's one of the most, if not the most, OP starter pokemon in that game. The start is a bit rough, granted, but once you get rolling, not even the final boss of the post game can pose a threat. How? Immunity to most statuses, double basic attacks on occasion, the ability to pierce through several pokemon with thrown items, super effective moves against most bosses, if you get your hands on a focus blast TM most bosses become complete and utter jokes,Β do I need to say more?
So yeah, that'd be my guess.
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But hey yea you do have some point I guess....
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I mean EOSβs boss as I believe so, is a dialga right? Well yea OF CORSE FIGHTING > STEAL damn it, what could have guess....do u know what f riolu, Iβm using turtwig and a torchic rather than that freaking jackal
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I mean, Dialga IS the final boss, but then you have the post game. The post game bosses include: the entirety of wigglytuff's guild, all four regis, a froslass, a gyarados, Palkia, and finally the BBEG responsible for everything bad that happened in the game in one way or another. Without spoiling, he's a dark type. And has a room full of low-ish hp minions that earthquake completely decimates. Also, emit ring is op. Why give riolu the permanent ability to ignore ghost type's immunities? I don't mind, but he's already op enough as is. I know you can lose the thing, but having it nearly makes it impossible to die in the first place.
Back on the topic at hand, most bosses don't do well against double speed player characters, and X-eye seeds just happen to double riolu's speed thanks to Steadfast. Either way, not good news for the enemies. Hell, one of the mid game bosses is a horde of electric types. One earthquake and only the main guy is left standing. Granted your partner will be on death's front porch, but when you go riolu, having four reviver seeds at all times is an absolute must, so that's not exactly a big deal. Also riolu has no shortage of close range heavy hitters.
Otherwise, you made an... Unconventional starter choice. Not hating on turtwig, i love the little guy, but the best starters are the all out offence ones. Riolu is one of them, so is charmander for instance. Defensive starters slow the game down. Kinda goes without saying, but this is exacerbated for the player character, as you will have to back down from certain encounters and let your partner's AI deal with them for you, which is less efficient than dealing with it yourself with the same pokemon. And speaking of your partner, to be optimised, the partner should be vulpix, meowth or skitty as they have the absolute best support IQ skills. Enter a new floor? Know the layout of the rooms and in which direction the stairs are, as well as how many items are on the ground. Those partners will also never step on a trap unless you switch places with them, and if you deactivate that specific skill, they have another one that makes them able to reveal the trap without activating it. Finally they regenerate faster are immune to crits, have higher evasion than average, will sometimes save PP while using moves and gain more experience. Granted, that's at 6 stars IQ, but still. Attacker type partners are decent, but support fits the AI way more.
Also, the third to last boss in the main story is three rock types, and yeah, the second to last is one super strong ghost type and a shit load of sableyes. But again, emit ring FTW. Also, Bite and Shadow Claw. Then before those you have, in anti-chronological order, and from memory, a spiritomb, a pretty powerful Grovyle, a psychic type (spoilers), the electric horde, GROUDON, Team Skull (if you haven't met them yet, they're funny), and before that should be Drowsee... Bosses start ramping up in frequency past Groudon. Just a heads up.
Also I'm assuming you're currently playing the game from your comment, if you already finished it in the past, sorry if that sounded condescending, but this game is my favourite game ever. I know a lot about it, and I want others to do so as well. Rant over. Thanks for your time and patience reading this. Have a good day.
Edit: forgot Zubat and Koffing in the boss list.
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Ok...thanks for the huge reply XD also I like how you say about turtwig a little guy XD
Apart from riolu is the any other op PokΓ©mon then?
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Hummm... Pikachu naturally learns a screen nuke in Discharge, though there is a Rhyperior in the final battle, so that one can work through most of the game, but the true final battle is really rough. I never managed to beat it as pikachu with riolu as my partner, and tore the entire enemy team several new assholes as riolu with vulpix partner. Then most fire type starters are pretty good as a player character, including vulpix, though the latter is locked behind being a female character like eevee and skitty, whereas riolu is male exclusive along with shinx and phanpy. Speaking of Shinx, he gets Discharge as well, and is a better team leader than pikachu with his higher offensive stats, but struggles more against Rock/Ground types.
When it comes to grass types Treecko is the best of the bunch as it is focused on offence rather than his tank brethren. He has a lot of type coverage thanks to the dig and brick break TMs and agility allows you to blaze through encounters without trying. And according to the site i'm referring to, turtwig isn't that bad, and is even the second best grass type player character. More durable than treecko, but not as polyvalent. Curse and healing moves synergise pretty well and that's what turtwig focusses around.
Charmander is basically the fire type equivalent of riolu. All out attack with no alternative strategy, and when he fully evolves he gets Heat Wave, or fire type Discharge if you prefer. Torchic holds its ground as a player character but most of what it does, charmander does better. Though this rings even more true for cyndaquil. The difference being that cyndaquil makes the second best fire type partner, right behind vulpix, whereas Torchic is a pretty bad choice as a partner, only rivalled by charmander, as it is really squishy, and the slightest breeze will nearly kill it.
The site I'm reading says riolu isn't that good, but I think they forgot what he does with bosses. You need some preparation and/or luck (or the miracle letter generator), but once you start rolling you can't stop unless you tell your partner to run away and face tank an entire monster house on your own, and even then you can still come out on top. Yeah, he doesn't get Psychic, Aurasphere, Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse until the true ending, but Focus Blast, Earthquake, Shadow Claw/Bite and Rock Slide are more than enough to brute force your way through everything the game throws at you.
And finally, the water types. They can all learn Blizzard. When it comes to cleaning the floor as fast as possible, Totodile and Piplup are what you need. Squirtle can basically power through anything and everything, and isn't as offensively challenged as most other tanks.
So yeah. Anything I didn't sing praises about (or is it on? I never use this expression, so pardon me if I messed it up) is not completely recommended. You can take them (or when it comes to meowth and munchlax you can't in EoS), but I would advise against it, as there are much better ones.
Though there is some bias, as I have a tendency to prefer attackers over tanks in the main games. Hell, I rarely ever keep any status moves whatsoever. But in mystery dungeon, status moves are generally even weaker than in the main games, and thus less useful. Poison is virtually useless, as enemy pokemon don't regenerate health in the first place, and it kills them way too slowly. Burn at least lowers their attack, but again, you're better of using a damaging move. Sleep will free you up a few turns but that doesn't really matter if you can just plow through the enemy full force. Paralysis is always fun to see trigger on enemies, but it's still better to keep it as a secondary effect from your attacks. Attraction isn't really useful and confusion creates more problems than it solves most of the time, because now you have to try to keep up with their nonsensical movement pattern and by the time you've got them you would have probably gotten to the next floor if you just went all out on them.
So yeah. The best starters according to me, in no particular order.
Also, turtwig was my first ever starter in diamond, which in turn was the first ever video game i owned, on my lime DS lite, my first ever video game console, that has so much emotional value that even if one day it fully breaks down I will never get rid of it. Back to turtwig. He's my favourite gen 4 starter. My favourites go : Charmander, Cyndaquil, Treecko, Turtwig, Oshawott, Froakie, Litten as I can't really stand the other two and Sobble. They had to break my pattern. But hey. Not like I'm gonna buy sword or shield in the first place.
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I actually struggled with Cyndaquil and Treeko (Mostly because of how unprepared I was back when I played Explorers of Time in 2008... and I only finished the main story in like... 2019... Big hiatus, which is made worse because I was actually in the final dungeon before Dialga)
But in Sky, I was more prepared, and plowed through most of the bosses with relative ease as Charmander and Meowth
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Oh, sorry for the confusion, I meant for each main game when talking about my favourite starters.
Anyways, stopping midway through temporal tower could be rough I guess. Always was vastly over prepared for it, even when I played Pikachu and even Cyndaquill (fun fact I finished the post game for the first time with that starter, but only won legit around a year ago [hurray for the action replay. Now it's dead though, so no more relying on it]), so it never happened to me. Always managed to finish it first try. BBEG's "lair" though, the first three times I tried, I lost. Then I deleted the file and made a new game. And didn't manage to beat him. Then comes the action replay. Surprise, having infinite HP guarantees victory. Then comes me deciding that software editing third party hardware wasn't fair game and I want to DEMOLISH the guy on his own terms. That one was about a year ago.
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I think riolu is overused. I'd rather have Machop
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Eh, I wouldn't mind seeing machop come back if they ever make another mystery dungeon game, to be perfectly honest. Though I'm pretty sure that riolu and lucario are significantly more popular than the machop line. And, you know... Sales and stuff.
Though, I really would mind if they put machop back in but not vulpix.
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True.
Would also be nice to mix things up a little (By that I mean add some options with different elements) For one, I was thinking Ekans (even though that will be a hard one to work with), or Mareep (Wouldn't hurt to have an electric that wasn't Pikachu)
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Yeah, probably would be neat. If they ever get to it that is.
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